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MINUTES
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 15, 1992, 4:00 PM,
YELM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Agenda Item/
Motion No.
1. The meeting was called to order at 4:00 by Tim Schlosser.
Members present: Roberta Longmire, John Kinnee, Tom
Cundy, Jim Keyes, Tim Schlosser, Jim Brown, Tom Gorman,
Joe Huddleston and George Knight. Guests: Michael Van
Gelder of Intercity Transit, Margaret Clapp of Yelm
Chamber of Commerce and Randy Radock and patricia Tisdale
of McDonald's Corporation. Jim Forrester, Councilman
Arnold Drogseth, Bib Isom and Dane Mounts. Kim Gorder,
Cherie Reeves, James Legendre and John Graver. Staff
members present: Gene Borges, Steve Gilbert of
parametrix, Todd Stamm and Agnes Colombo.
92-50
MOTION BY JOE HUDDLESTON, SECONDED GEORGE KNIGHT TO
APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 17, 1992, AND DECEMBER 1, 1992,
MINUTES AS PRINTED. MOTION CARRIED.
No additions or deletions were~ade to the agenda.
2.
Cameron Variance (VAR8070). Public Hearing on request
from Doug Cameron for a variance from 5-acre lot size and
20 foot side-yard and 30 foot rear-yard setback
requirements to permit new lot lines 9 feet from an
existing garage and approximately 15 feet from existing
shop, and approximately 15 feet from each existing
residence. The lot to the east would be about 14,400
square feet; the western lot about 31,000 square feet.
Jim Keyes left the room.
Public Hearing Opened at 4:05 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identify themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was expressed. No audience
objections to any Planning Commission members
participation was voiced. No members had received
information, other than staff reports, prior to the
public hearing.
Todd Stamm gave an overview of his staff report pointing
out that all setbacks meet with building codes but that
the Commission may wish to recommend a minor modification
so that the lots would meet single-family zoning
standards.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
Mr. Cameron - stated that the rear line set back was
between 10 and 11 feet.
Public Hearing closed at 4:05
92-51
MOTION BY TOM GORMAN, SECONDED TOM CUNDY TO RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF THE CAMERON VARIANCE (VAR8070) AS SUBMITTED.
MOTION CARRIED.
Jim Keyes returned.
3. McDonald's Restaurant Site plan (SPR8074). Public
Hearing regarding site plan of proposed McDonald's
Restaurant at the western corner of the Yelm Ave. and
Solberg St. intersection.
Public Hearing Opened at 4:10 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identify themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was expressed. No audience
objections to any Planning Commission members
participation was voiced. No members had received
information, other than staff reports, prior to the
public hearing.
Stamm gave a brief overview of the project stating that
zoning permits the location of this or a similar type of
operation at this location and pointed out a few
problems with the submitted site plan including:
a. pedestrian and handicapped access crossing the drive
through lane.
b. Drive through access from Solberg, turn is too
sharp
c. No frontage improvements on Washington St.
d. If Washington St. is extended the Solberg Street
entrance will be very close to the
Washington/Solberg intersection.
e. No landscaping plan submitted yet.
f. Increase in number of left turns at Solberg/Yelm
Ave. intersection and at Yelm Ave. entrance.
Stamm stated that standards limit arterial entrances to
one per 500 feet eliminating the possibility of future
Yelm Ave. entrances to the unused portions of that block.
He advised the Commission that they could require:
a. architectural style approval
b. relocation of handicapped parking
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
c. relocation of Solberg St. entrance/exit
d. shared Yelm Avenue access
e. street lighting
f. landscaping plan
g. signage plan
h. developer participation in intersection
improvements
Todd Stamm distributed copies of a letter received from
Mrs. Wiggins stating that she was not in favor of
McDonald's locating at that site. She believed that the
additional traffic would pose a threat to numerous small
children in the area. She also felt that the noise would
be an intrusion, existing business will be hurt
economically and that additional light from the building
will be a problem.
Correspondence from Washington State Dept. of
Transportation requested that the two lots be limited to
a single Yelm Ave. access due to potential conflicting
turning movements into both Longmire and Solberg streets.
Also addressed was surface water runoff, channelization,
noise and signs.
Randy Radock, McDonald's Corp. - stated that some of the
recommendations asked for were agreeable. He felt that
McDonald's plan responded to everything brought up at the
meeting between McDonald's and Yelm's Building, Planning
and Engineering Departments. Mr. Radock requested a
continuance to provide an opportunity to respond to new
issues.
Todd Stamm stated that Yelm generally has a more public
process to avoid the possible perception of a "done
deal. " He pointed out that the Planning Commission's
decision on site plans is final.
Tim Schlosser suggested that the Public Hearing proceed
to allow Mr. Radock to hear all public comment and give
him a better idea of what types of problems might need to
be addressed.
Bob Isom - expressed concern about the additional traffic
volume on both Yelm Avenue and Solberg St., and traffic
impact on the senior housing apartments. He questioned
plans to widen and add a turn lane and signal to Yelm
Ave. and asked what plans Yelm had for Washington St.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
Todd Stamm replied that the Transportation Plan includes
a turn lane but not a signal and that all improvements
were dependent of funding.
Gene Borges stated that he had recently met with DOT/TIB
and applied for Yelm Ave. design funding. He believes
that the City has a good chance of receiving the
requested funding and that a design and right-of-way
purchase process would take approximately one year with
possible construction during the 2nd and 3rd year.
Dane Mounts - expressed his concern at the location of
the Solberg entrance and his feelings that the location,
being so close to residential property, is not suitable.
He suggested a location in or by Nisqually Plaza.
Tim Schlosser explained that the property is zoned
commercial and has been for over 14 years and that
McDonalds or a similar business is permitted to locate
there. Approval could not be denied, but the Commission
could consider and recommend plan changes to help traffic
flows, etc.
James Legendre - expressed similar concerns about the
current traffic situation and the impact McDonalds would
have on traffic, the view from his home, kids vs traffic,
and trash. He noted that the submitted plan did not
include fencing. He also stated that he would be willing
to maintain Washington Street right-of-way.
Bob Isom - questioned ingress/egress limits for the
block.
Margaret Clapp - stated that she hoped the aesthetics of
the planned building would be suitable for Yelm. She
indicated that the Chamber of Commerce will be sending a
letter welcoming McDonalds to the community. She also
would like to see better access.
Members discussed the possibility of opening Washington
St. including right-of-way and maintenance. Gene Borges
suggested that an engineering review could address some
of the questions being raised.
Randy Radock - acknowledged that opening Washington St.
would allow some changes including dual access.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
Tim Schlosser pointed out that while he was a proponent
of opening Washington St., a means of funding the change
would have to be found. He pointed out that Washington
St. could provide a rear entrance to the McDonald's site,
which could benefit deliveries etc. He also mentioned
that it would not be an access for the Cove apartments.
John Kinnee stated that he did not believe that it was
reasonable to assume that egress/ingress to Yelm Ave.
could be limited to one access. He also pointed out that
ingress/egress was available from almost everywhere on
the opposite side of the street.
Gene Borges stated that Yelm Ave. is an arterial at this
time, it would change to a major/minor collector when it
becomes a city street. As a collector Yelm could impose
lesser restrictions.
Jim Keyes stated that he was supportive of the overall
project. He suggested that as the adjacent property
couldn't be developed until sewer was available both
properties could share access until additional
development is proposed. A reevaluation could take place
at that time. He also felt that changes in access across
the street were needed.
Randy Radock - reminded members that the project has a
budget.
To allow an opportunity to review and modify the original
site plan addressing concerns raised at this meeting the
proponent and the Commission agreed to continue the
Public Hearing to January 25, 1992, at 4:00 p.m.
Public Hearing closed at 5:15 p.m.
4. Washington Ct (Jones St.) Vacation (VCT8075). Review of
proposal to reduce the width of right-of-way for
Washington Ct. from 60 to 40 feet and to reduce the size
of cul-de-sac right-of-way from a 50 to a 40 ft. radius.
Todd Stamm gave an overview of his staff report and
pointed out that Yelm doesn't have existing cul-de-sac
standards and that the fire department had not yet been
contacted to determine their needs.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
92-52
MOTION BY GEORGE KNIGHT, SECONDED JIM KEYES RECOMMENDING
CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF VACATION OF WASHINGTON CT.
(VCT8075) WITH THE CITY MAINTAINING RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR
UTILITY SERVICES AND LIMITING THE CUL-DE-SAC REDUCTION TO
MEET FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS. MOTION CARRIED.
Jim Keyes left.
5. Yelm Sewer System Shoreline Development Permit (SDP8071)
Public Hearing on shoreline permits for sewer system
collection lines crossing Yelm Creek and near Centralia
power canal. Includes installation of below grade 10-
inch sewer collector lines crossing Yelm Creek at First
Street and about 600 feet upstream from Crystal Springs
Road, and a six-inch line along the south side of Canal
Road east of Crystal Springs Rd.
Public Hearing Opened at 5:30 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identify themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was expressed. No audience
objections to any Planning Commission members
participation was voiced. No members had received
information, other than staff reports, prior to the
public hearing.
Stamm gave a brief overVlew of the project.
Public Hearing closed at 5:35 p.m.
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MOTION BY ROBERTA LONGMIRE, SECONDED TOM GORMAN
RECOMMENDING COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE YELM SEWER SYSTEM
SHORELINE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT (SDP8071). MOTION CARRIED.
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Commute Trip Reduction Plan. Public hearing regarding
proposed amendment of Yelm Comprehensive Plan to require
employer programs to reduce the number of employee trips
to and from work for major employers.
Public Hearing Opened at 5:36 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identify themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was expressed. No audience
objections to any Planning Commission members
participation was voiced. No members had received
information, other than staff reports, prior to the
public hearing.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
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92-55
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Michael Van Gelder, Senior Transit Planner for Intercity
Transit, briefed the Commission on the background leading
to Commute Trip Reduction Plan. He stated that the
purpose of the plan is to reduce the vehicle miles per
employee and increase occupancy per vehicle. Mr. Van
Gelder stressed that no penalties would be placed on
employers if a good faith effort was made to meet goals.
MOTION BY JOHN KINNEE, SECONDED JOE HUDDLESTON
RECOMMENDING COUNCIL APPROVAL OF AMENDING THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO INCLUDE THE COMMUTE TRIP REDUCTION
PLAN. MOTION CARRIED.
Roberta Longmire voted against the recommendation.
7. East SR507 Annexation. Discussion of proposed annexation
east of Yelm and north of SR507. Petitioners have
requested meeting with the Commission to discuss land use
and zoning options.
Following discussion Commission members stated that they
felt the proponent should propose zoning and they were
not opposed to a C-2 type zoning proposal.
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Commission 1993 Meeting Dates. Members attending the
December work session had proposed moving meetings to the
first and third Monday of each month.
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MOTION JIM BROWN, SECONDED ROBERTA LONGMIRE TO CHANGE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS TO THE FIRST AND THIRD
MONDAY OF EACH MONTH AND TO MOVE MEETINGS ONE WEEK TO
LATER ACCOMMODATE ANY MONDAY HOLIDAYS OCCURRING
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned 6:15 p.m.
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MINUTES
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION
DECEMBER 1, 1992
Members present: Tim Schlosser, Jim Brown, Joe Huddleston, John
Kinnee, Roberta Longmire, Lyle Sundsmo and Jim Keyes. Absent: Tom
Gorman and Tom Cundy. Staff present: Todd Stamm and Agnes
Colombo.
Meeting opened at 4:00 p.m. by Tim Schlosser.
Agenda Item #3
Michael Van Gelder, Senior Transit Planner for Intercity Transit,
briefed the Commission on the Yelm Commute Trip Reduction Plan.
The Commission will hold a public hearing on the plan at its
12/15/92 meeting.
Mr. Van Gelder explained that the legislature had passed the CTR in
1990 as part of the Clean Air and Growth Management Acts to reduce
air pollution and traffic and to conserve energy. Major employers,
those with 100 or more employees at a single site, who start work
between 6-9 am and work 30 or more hours per week for 12 continuous
months, are required to develop a plan to reduce the vehicle miles
per employee and increase occupancy per vehicle. Any city
government with an employer meeting the above requirements must
establish a plan for city employees.
IT's role as administrator is to provide alternatives and develop
a consistent Commute Trip Reduction Plan throughout the region. To
develop the plan a steering committee of local employers and
governments put together a draft plan. The draft plan will be
submitted to local governments for review/public hearings. Local
governments will also need to adopt an ordinance setting forth
requirements.
Agenda Item #2
Members discussed attendance and reappointment to the Commission.
After discussion members decided they would change the meeting day.
Beginning in January meetings will be held on the first and third
Monday of each month. This will require a vote at the next
meeting. Todd Stamm told members he would be requesting Council to
appoint members to three year terms, with three seats expiring each
year. Members requested individual attendance reports.
Agenda Item #3
Todd Stamm invited members to attend a meeting at 7:00 tonight on
the Yelm Comprehensive Plan Environmental Impact Statement. Some
time was spent reviewing possible land uses.
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Agenda Item #5
Step Forward Task Force, Stamm explained that results of the
"Vision" discussions indicate that the preference is to retain
Yelm's small town atmosphere and friendliness and promotion of a
viable downtown commercial district.
Stamm also advised members of a change in meeting dates for the
"Look of Yelm" meeting from December 14, 1992 to January 11, 1993
at the Yelm High School Theater.
Agenda Item #6.
Stamm pointed out that the "vision" could help address the problem
of residential lot sizes.
Meeting adjourned at 5:45 p.m.
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1993 MEETING SCHEDULE
WORK
January 4
February 1
March 1
April 5
May 3
June 7
SESSIONS
July _
August 2
September
October 4
November 1
December 6
REGULAR
January
February-
March 15
April 19
May 17
June 21
MEETINGS
July 19
August 16
September 20
October 18
November 15
December 20
Due to holidays, alternate dates need to be
set for the July and September work sessions
and the January and February regular meetings.
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105 Yelm A venue West
POBox 479
Yelm, Washington 98597
206-458-3244
City of YellD
WORK SESSION AGENDA
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 1, 1992
4:00 PM, YELM CITY HALL
1 Call to Order, Roll Call,
2 Planning Commission Membership - Discussion of reappointment
issues
3 Yelm "Commute Trip Reduction Plan - Staff briefing
regarding proposal content and review process
4 Yelm Comprehensive Plan Environmental Impact Statement -
Commission comments regarding scope of EIS
5 Step Forward Task Force - Staff briefing regarding task
force "vision "
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Residential Lot Sizes - Continued Discussion
enclosed with November agenda)
(Staff report
Enclosures are available to non-Commission members upon request
If you need special arrangements to attend or participate in this
meeting, please contact Shelly Badger, City Clerk, at 458-3244
1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
WORK SESSIONS
December 1, 1992
REGULAR MEETINGS
December 15, 1992
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MINUTES
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 1992, 4:00 PM,
YELM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Agenda Item/
Motion No.
1. The meeting was called to order at 4:00 by Tim Schlosser.
Members present: Roberta Longmire, John Kinnee, Tom
Cundy, Jim Keyes, Tim Schlosser and Jim Brown. Tom
Gorman, Joe Huddleston, I and George Knight were unable
to attend. Guests: Desmo~d Iverson, Henry Meyer, Mr. &
Mrs. Myron Hall, John Huddleston, David Frick and David
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Asher. Staff members present: Todd Stamm and Agnes
Colombo.
As a quorum was not present members began the meeting
with the scheduled public hearing.
5.
Iverson Rezone (ZON8072). Public Hearing on proposal to
rezone approximately two un zoned acres, at the
intersection of West Road and 103rd Ave., R-2 for multi-
family uses.
Public Hearing Opened at 4:05 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identify themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was expressed. No audience
objections to any Planning Commission members
participation was voiced. No members had received
information, other than staff reports, prior to the
public hearing.
Todd Stamm gave an overview of his staff report
explaining that the property had been unzoned since its
annexation in 1987. Multi-family is permitted on a
arterial or as a transition between C-l and R-1. The
site is within Yelm's water service area and Phase II of
the sewer system with service expected during 1993.
Issues to be considered include: at what point the
developer should be required to do traffic studies to
determine impact on the 103rd/Yelm Ave. intersection,
what improvements are needed, and who pays for them?
Could the improvements be tied to traffic improvements at
a later date? Recent request for similar use on West Rd.
resulted in a Commission recommendation to Council to not
approve; any recommendation on this request must make a
clear distinction for Council.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
Roberta Longmire questioned the possibility of sharing
transportation improvement costs. Stamm explained that
the property owner could choose to wait out the
improvements. A latecomers agreement is also possible.
Jim Keyes arrived at 4:12 p.m. completing a quorum.
Henry Meyer - asked what Mr. Iverson's intentions were
for the property.
Desmond Iverson - responded that he believed it to be in
his best interests to go through this process at this
time and that sewer availability played a part. He also
stated that he believed the maximum capacity of the site
would be 20 not 30 units, and that while he had no
immediate plans for building he was considering, due to
the location, senior/handicapped housing.
Henry Meyer - expressed his displeasure about not being
notified by Mr. Iverson of his intent and stated that he
became aware of the Public Hearing when someone mentioned
the notice in the paper.
Dorothy Hall - stated that the line fence separating
their property was off by approximately 18-24 inches and
needed to be fixed before anything else takes place. She
also addressed the increase in traffic that development
of this type would create.
Desmond Iverson - said that the fence issue could be
resolved between them. He also indicated that the day
care located on the property creates more traffic than
senior /handicapped housing would and that public
transportation would decrease traffic.
Dorothy Hall asked what effects this density of
development would have on their water supply (private
well). Tim Schlosser explained that city water and sewer
would be required for multi-family development to take
place.
Roberta Longmire asked what zoning currently existed
along West Road to the Iverson site. Todd Stamm
explained that part of the NE side of West Road was in
the county, upon entering the City it becomes residential
to Tom, Dick & Harry's. The SW side is all commercial.
The Iverson's property, along with the school and church
is unzoned.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
David Asher - commented on multi-family servlng as a
buffer between commercial and residential.
Public Hearing closed at 4:22 p.m.
Tim Schlosser asked if 103rd could handle the potential
traffic load? Stamm stated that it was already
overloaded and lacked full width and shoulders and that
the intersection, 103rd/YelmAve., was at capacity. Stamm
stated that it was not possible to determine, without
costly traffic studies, if 20 units would exceed
capacity.
Jim Keyes stated that he was sympathetic to Mr. Iverson's
position, but that it was difficult to determine the
effects without a site plan.
Stamm pointed out that the Commission would reVlew the
site plan when development was proposed.
John Kinnee arrived at 4:30 p.m.
Schlosser summarized, with no immediate plans and traffic
loads to consider and the comprehensive plan being in the
process of revision the inclination is to recommend that
Council not approve at this time.
Desmond Iverson - explained that lack of proper zonlng
puts him in a difficult situation when trying to obtain
funding for the project and that his next step was to
contact an architect.
Members discussed possible ways to limit access and
traffic on West Road.
David Asher - asked if the Commission knew when West Road
would be upgraded. Stamm replied that it was subject to
state funding.
92-47
MOTION BY TOM CUNDY, SECONDED ROBERTA LONGMIRE TO
RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE IVERSON ZONING REQUEST
(ZON8072) SUBJECT TO APPROPRIATE ROAD UPGRADE COST-SHARE
WHEN IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE. AYES-2, ABSTAINING-3,
NAYS-O. MOTION CARRIED.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
92-48
MOTION JIM KEYES, SECONDED JOHN KINNEE THAT SEPTEMBER 15
AND OCTOBER 20, 1992, REGULAR MEETING AND SEPTEMBER 29,
1992, WORK SESSION MINUTES BE APPROVED AS PRINTED.
MOTION CARRIED.
Jim Keyes left the room.
MOTION 92-45 OF OCTOBER 20, 1992, WAS APPROVED ON A
MOTION BY TOM CUNDY, SECONDED BY ROBERTA LONGMIRE.
MOTION CARRIED.
92-45
MOTION JOE HUDDLESTON, SECONDED TOM CUNDY TO
RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE CRYSTAL
SPRINGS ESTATES PRELIMINARY PLAT (SUB8065)
DISALLOWING WAIVER Of THE 60 FOOT BUFFER
REQUIREMENT AND SUBJECT TO ALL STREET ISSUES
AND SAFETY CONCERNS BEING ADDRESSED AND THE
UCBO LOCATING ON THE ADJACENT SITE AND THE
REZONE OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH.
UNANIMOUS.
Jim Keyes returned.
3.
PARKSIDE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT (SUB8065). A
forty-four lot subdivision on ten acres located east of
Cochrane Park proposed by David Frick.
Stamm gave an overview of his staff report: rezone from
multi-family is pending, Commission recommended that plat
be approved subject to open space standards. The site is
within the city water service area and Phase I of the
sewer system. Applicant proposes privately owned streets.
Noted for the Record: Commissioner Roberta Longmire owns
property on two sides of the proposed subdivision.
Mr. Frick was questioned about costs of road maintenance
and repairs. Mr. Frick indicated that a homeowner's
association would assess a $25 per year fee, as proposed
in a clause in covenants. Mr. Frick stated that the
reason he was looking at private streets was to try and
recover some of his costs when adjacent properties are
developed.
Tim Schlosser pointed out that road upkeep through
homeowner association fees was a poor way to try and fund
road repairs, that it was difficult to collect such fees.
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Motion No.
Longmire questioned emergency vehicle access and turn
around, length of stubbed streets and temporary cul-de-
sacs.
Jim Keyes stated that the amount of roadway required was
not excessive and that this was a normal expense of
development. An easement for city services would be
required and that this arrangement would not be
beneficial to all parties involved. It was also pointed
out that this proposed private roadway would hinder
creation of a functional road system.
David Frick - stated that open space standards would
result in loss of 6 lots, and that might cut profits too
deeply to make the development feasible at this time.
John Huddleston - stated that the development could still
be profitable by building homes in the $125,000 price
range, which are very marketable in this area.
92-49
MOTION BY ROBERTA LONGMIRE, SECONDED TOM CUNDY TO
RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE PLAT WITH CITY STREETS,
GREENBELTS TO COMPLY WITH OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND
TEMPORARY CUL-DE-SACS. MOTION CARRIED.
2.
Step Forward - members were asked to participate on Step
Forward groups. Groups will meet in November, December
and January. Tom Cundy indicated he would try to attend
Capital Facilities group meetings, Roberta Longmire
signed up for Land Use, John Kinnee Transportation and
Jim Keyes Utilities, Tim Schlosser - Coordinators.
Items to be addressed at the next meeting include the
(Jones St. ) washington Court vacation request, Commission
attendance and terms, and site plan for fast-food
franchise.
John Huddleston - expressed an interest in servlng on the
Commission if that was possible.
Worksession set for December 1.
1992
Meeting adjoUrJed at 5:40 p.m. I
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YELM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Agenda Item/
Motion No.
1. The meeting was called to order at 4:00 by Tim Schlosser.
Members present: Joe Huddleston, John Kinnee, Tom
Cundy, Jlm Keyes and Tim Schlosser. Jim Brown, Tom
Gorman, Roberta Longmire and George Knight were unable
to attend. Guests: Tim & Janet Leggott, Jack Peugh, Ken
Garmann, Frank Jones, Jeff Creeclius and Tom Shaut. Dick
Wilson, Tom Parkinson, Pat Wheeler, Rick Kolilis, Fred
Tharp, Don & Charlotte Miller, Warren Simmons, and Harry
Lewis. Staff members present: Todd Stamm and Agnes
Colombo.
As a quorum was not present, the September 15, 1992,
regular meeting and September 29, 1992 work session
minutes were not approved at thlS time and the meetlng
proceeded to PubllC Hearings. Tim Schlosser explained
that no action could be taken until a quorum was present.
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Amended Cullens Road Annexation and Zoning (ANX8064).
Request to expand pending twenty-acre annexation to a
total of 120 acres. Orlginal annexation initiated by
Robert Henderson to annex five acres along Cullens Road
has been expanded once to include Clifford McFall's
property. Mr. & Mrs. Guzzetti are requesting inclusion
of thelr 100 acres with Residentlal/Agricultural zoning
which is very similar to the current county zoning of 1
dwelling per five acres.
Public Hearing Opened at 4:10 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identify themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was expressed. No audlence
objections to any Plannlng Commisslon members
participation was voiced. No members had received
informatlon, other than staff reports, prior to the
public hearing.
Stamm gave an overview of the staff report. Analysls
indicates that: a) the proposed annexatlon and zonlng
appears to be consistent wlth Yelm's Comprehenslve Plan,
b) zoning for development should await completion of the
new comprehensive plan, c) the request creates "slice"
of county property between Yelm Creek and Cullens Road
which would reduce ownership approval needed from 60% to
50% for annexation purposes, d) street could be left in
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
county or brought into the City, both jurisdictions would
have comments regardlng this, and e) a City Councll
Public Hearlng is scheduled for October 28, 1992.
Public Comment invited. None forthcoming.
Tim Schlosser acknowledged receipt of a letter, which had
been distributed to Commission members, stating
opposition of several local residents to the project.
Additional correspondence was a letter from DOT stating
that the proJect had been identified as having an adverse
impact on the state route that needed to be fully
identified and mitigated and requesting the opportunlty
to review and comment upon any development of these
properties prior to the issuance of any buildlng permits.
Rick Kolilis - pointed out that the annexation and
development are two separate issues.
Todd Stamm explained that the City Council is requlred by
law to inform the petitioner if a land use plan is
required.
Tim Schlosser inqulred about the current condition of the
roads. Stamm replied that the roads were not up to City
standards.
Joe Huddleston clarlfied that the area falls outside the
Clty'S utility service area.
Members acknowledged that the request is consistent with
the Yelm Comprehensive Plan.
Public Hearing Closed at 4:20 p.m.
92-42
MOTION BY JIM KEYES, SECONDED BY JOE HUDDLESTON TO
RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED CULLENS
ROAD (GUZZETTI) ANNEXATION AND ZONING (ANX8064).
UNANIMOUS, must be confirmed due to lack of quorum.
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VANCIL ROAD/YELM AVENUE COMMERCIAL REZONE (ZON8064) AND
VANCIL ROAD MULTI-FAMILY REZONE (ZON8068) PUBLIC HEARING.
Vancil Rd/Yelm Ave Commercial - requesting rezone of
sixteen acres fronting on the south side of Yelm Ave
between Vancil and Morris Roads from Residential-
Agrlcultural to Commercial. Vancil Road Multi-Famlly -
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
requesting rezone of eight acres along Vancil Road to
Multi-Family.
Public Hearing Opened at 4:23 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identlfy themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was expressed. No audience
objections to any Planning Commission members
participation was voiced. No members had received
information, other than staff reports, prior to the
publlC hearing.
John Kinnee arrived at 4:24 completlng a quorum.
Stamm reviewed his staff report. Analysis of the
commercial rezone request indicates: a) only significant
issue is boundaries of zone, b) whether to include
parcels where the owner has expressed no preference, c)
that the southern boundary should not extend further than
the final alignment of the planned east-west arterial (Y-
2 - from SR 507 east to MorrlS Road along 10Sth Street),
and d) property owners must understand that direct access
to this new arterial will not be available from
commercial developments.
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Jack Peugh - questioned location of "duplex". Four-plex
to hlS north sits right on the dlvision line and location
of the proposed (Y-2) road. He indicated that he had
over the years been in contact with both the county and
ci ty on this property and his desire for commercial
zoning.
Stamm explained that when a proponent makes a proposal we
must respond in 90 days.
Jim Keyes stated that zoning doesn't always follow
property lines and that perhaps Mr. Peugh could work with
Erllng Birkland (to his west) and bring a proposed
alignment to the City.
Tlm Schlosser stated that lf the road goes north of the
4-plex there would be no access to commercial and also
suggested that Mr. Peugh work with Erling Birkland to
arrive at a solution.
Jack Peugh - stated that he would contact Erling Blrkland
to discuss the matter.
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Agenda Item/
Motlon No.
Stamm reviewed his staff report on the multi-family
rezone. Staff analysis indicates that: a) the City's
comprehensive plan is indefinlte regarding standards for
siting multi-family, b) prlncipal lssue is whether this
area should constitute a transitional area between
commercial and residential, c) road allgnment also
affects this request. Other issues mentioned were
increased trafflC changing road designation and how to
pay for right-of-way for road, possibllity of a Local
Improvement District was mentioned. One parcel contains
a small wetland area that has not be categorized. Scotch
broom covers the area suggesting that thlS is not really
a wetland.
No audience comments were made.
Jim Keyes felt this was a good area for multi-family
considering the problems with road condltions
allgnment that need to be addressed and suggested
parcel (s) lying between the proposed commercial
multi-family be included as multi-family.
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Joe Huddleston commented that this would posslbly force
multi-family on two parcels, depending on the road.
Ethel Jo Curry - said that she was sure the parcel owner
wouldn't have a problem with a change from R/A to Multi-
Family.
Tlm Schlosser stated that a change to multi-family zoning
would result in an increase in the property owner's tax
rate.
Tim Schlosser recapped the proceedlng. A portion of the
Commercial rezone would be tabled untll Mr. Peugh and Mr.
Birkland work out a proposal on the location of the by
pass road.
Correspondence received: a letter from DOT stating that
both the Peugh/Lefebvre and Curry/Birkland Rezone
Projects had been identified as having an adverse impact
on the state route that needed to be fully identified and
mitigated and requesting the opportunlty to review and
comment upon any development of these propertles prior to
the issuance of any building permlts.
MOTION BY JIM KEYES, SECONDED JOE HUDDLESTON TO RECOMMEND
CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF REZONE TO COMMERCIAL (C-l) OF I
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
THE PROPERTY LYING NORTH OF THE LOCATION OF THE Y-2
ROAD. MOTION CARRIED. UNANIMOUS.
Stamm stressed the loglcal use of the ditch as a boundary
between multi-family and residential and when questioned
by Tim Schlosser indicated that open space requirements
would apply to the site. Issues of concern to members
will be addressed in the land use plan when completed.
92-44
MOTION JOE HUDDLESTON, SECONDED TOM CUNDY THAT THE
COMMISSION RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE
REQUESTED REZONE (ZON8068) AS SHOWN ON THE MAP TO MULTI-
FAMILY. MOTION CARRIED.
Rick Kolilis - questioned road conditlons and lf they
should be brought up to standards. Tim Schlosser replied
that was a condition of development.
PubllC Hearing closed at 4:55 p.m.
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MOTION 93-42 REVIEWED AND CARRIED.
6.
Asher Rezone (ZON8059). Proposal to rezone six acres
north of West Road along Yelm Creek from Single-Family
Residential to Multi-Family Resldentlal.
Public Hearing Opened at 5:00 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identify themselves prlor to speaking. No
confllct of interest was expressed. No audlence
objectlons to any Planning Commission members
participation was voiced. No members had received
information, other than staff reports, prior to the
public hearing. Jim Keyes stated that he had worked on
the original plat but that the contract had been
completed some time ago and that no confllct existed.
Correspondence received: Schlosser acknowledged a packet
of letters, flve from individuals/families and one from
SlX indlvlduals/families. Also a letter from DOT stating
that the proposed Asher Rezone had been identifled as
having an adverse impact on the state route that needed
to be fully identified and mitlgated and requesting the
opportunity to review and comment upon any development of
these propertles prlor to the issuance of any bUlldlng
permits.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
Tom Shaut - expressed his objections to the proposed
rezone and the negative effects it would have on trafflc,
Yelm Creek and what is basically a single-family
residential area except for his business which was
grandfathered when annexatlon to the Clty occurred. He
also questioned access to the property and indicated that
he had been allowing access by use of driveways on either
slde of his business, Tom, Dick and Harry's Meat Market,
but he had in a letter dated October 19, 1992 denied
continued use of the driveways to Mr. Asher. A copy of
the letter was presented to the Commission.
Stamm reviewed his staff report. Staff analysis of the
multi-family rezone request indicates that: a) the City's
comprehensive plan is indefinite regarding standards for
siting multl-family, b) prlncipal issue of whether this
area should constitute a transitional area between
commercial and residential, c) lmpacts on Yelm Creek and
the wetlands assoclated with the creek, WhlCh could
require setbacks of from 50-150 feet and d) road
capacity.
Stamm stated that whatever decision was made a clear
statement of reasons would be requlred.
Commisslon members questioned the road and proposed
changes the Yelm Transportation Plan. Stamm replied that
the fundlng requests were still before DOT making funding
uncertain.
Schlosser noted that the proponent was not in attendance.
Janet Leggott - spoke and expressed her concern about the
proposed change and the effects on the neighborhood and
also its impact on the wildlife in the Yelm Creek area.
She also felt that multi-family close to the creek was a
hazard to small children whose families would be drawn to
this type of housing and felt that the possible 50 or
more apartments, as mentioned in the DNS, exceeded the
capacity of the area. She questioned the capacity of the
sewer system to handle the development and the impact of
development of this magnitude on the animals on the other
side of the creek.
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Agenda Item/
Motlon No.
Ken Garmann - stated that if approved the auto traffic on
all surrounding streets would increase dramatically and
was not in favor of the rezone.
Tom Shaut - addressed issues including existing homes on
the property, access problems, rental property belonging
to the proponent, the situation with increased traffic
from such a proJect, the water llne problems created by
Mr. Asher in the past and the fact that Mr. Asher built
two houses on one parcel in the past as well as Mr.
Asher's general disregard for compliance with appllcable
rules. He also stated that problems exist with flooding
from Yelm Creek.
Todd Stamm reminded the audience and Commission that this
action is for zonlng only; anything else would be part of
the development process.
Pat Wheeler - stated that she had worked on the Yelm
Creek restoratlon and was concerned about the effects of
multi-family on the area. She said that she had spoken
wlth Gordon White, who headed the restoration project,
and he expressed his concern about the negatlve impact
thlS type of development would have on the creek. She
also indicated that Mr. Asher's current rental units were
not well cared for.
Warren Simmons - stated that the wetlands on the property
would reduce available land from SlX to about four acres
WhlCh would not be sufficient for such high density
development.
Jim Keyes advised that Mr. Asher would stlll have to
comply with all Health Dept. requirements etc.
Tim Schlosser added that the only issue being addressed
to day is the appropriateness of the zoning request.
Tim Leggott - stated that he didn't understand how an
access road would be possible in the amount of space
available.
Tlm Schlosser emphasized that thlS was not the lssue
belng addressed today; that Mr Asher could, if he so
deslred, tear down hlS house to allow access.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No
Warren Simmons - stated that until West Road is improved
nothing should be allowed that would result in increased
traffic. Tim Leggott agreed with Mr. Simmons assessment
of the sltuation.
Tom Shaut - commented that due to the heavy volume of
traffic on Yelm Avenue people are already using West Road
as a bypass and that it was too narrow for existing
traffic. He felt that no additional traffic should be
allowed until the long range lmprovements have been made.
Pat Wheeler - questioned the long range plans for the
area. She was told that the Comprehensive Plan is being
worked on now.
Public Hearing was closed at 5:35 p.m.
Schlosser recapped the situatlon including the general
lack of facilities and road conditions, that the
Comprehensive Plan was being worked on at thlS time and
the views of the neighbors.
92-44-A
MOTION JOE HUDDLESTON, SECONDED JOHN KINNEE THAT THE
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL BE
TO DISAPPROVE THE ASHER REZONE REQUEST (ZON8059) AT THIS
TIME AS THE REQUEST WAS NOT TIMELY, THAT FACILITIES TO
SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL WERE LACKING AND ALSO DUE TO THE
LACK OF ADEQUATE ROADS TO SUPPORT SUCH DEVELOPMENT AND TO
THE STRONG OPPOSITION OF AREA PROPERTY OWNERS. MOTION
CARRIED.
When questioned Stamm lndicated that letters could be
sent to the City Council concerning the Vlews of
residents.
Jim Keyes stated that the Planning Commission and City
Council need to develop standards for density along the
Creek.
Harry Lewls - agreed that the creek needed protection but
hoped that development wouldn't be totally ellminated.
Pat Wheeler - told of problems wlth young people Slnce
the little pocket park was put in on First Street by the
creek.
Jim Keyes
interest.
left at 5:45 p.m. due to a
A quorum was no longer present.
conflict
of
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
7. Crystal Springs Estates Preliminary Plat (SUB8065). A
proposal for a 20 lot subdiv1sion east of Crystal Springs
Road.
The Planning CommlSS1on had recommend that the Council
not approve the rezone request for this property. Counc1l
approved the request subject to rezon1ng of two parcels
to the north from Industrlal to Res1dential and the
siting of the UCBO on the parcel to the south.
Harry Lewis - stated that he had been working on the
project since June and that neighbors don't want an
1ndustry located there. He also said that the C1ty
Council felt that the buffers would be created by the
UCBO, Jones' property and the rezone (to the north) and
that a 40 foot roadway between his and the UCBO site
added additional bufferlng.
Stamm reviewed the staff report. Staff analysis p01nted
out eleven items to be considered including: intersection
location, access to Crystal Spr1ngs Road, connection to
City utilities, sidewalk improvements, road standards,
lot entrance size, street lighting, f1re hydrant
placement and conformance with Fire D1strict needs.
Add1tionally any industrial developer must provide a 60
foot buffer.
Members discussed the Special Use Permit recommendation
for the UCBO and that it was not 1ntended to influence
zon1ng changes in the area. They expressed concern at
the continued erosion of the Industrial Zone. John K1nnee
pointed out that land available for Industrial/light
industrial 1S being lost and can't easily be replaced.
He also questioned how they can protect the future home
purchasers from the chance that an industry could be
located next to them at a later date. Tim Schlosser
pointed out that the plat would note th1S fact and the
purchaser would have to accept that possib1lity or not
purchase a home there. Members felt they had no choice
but to recommend approval.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
92-45
MOTION JOE HUDDLESTON, SECONDED TOM CUNDY TO RECOMMEND
CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE CRYSTAL SPRINGS ESTATES
PRELIMINARY PLAT (SUB8065) DISALLOWING WAIVER Of THE 60
FOOT BUFFER REQUIREMENT AND SUBJECT TO ALL STREET ISSUES
AND SAFETY CONCERNS BEING ADDRESSED AND THE UCBO LOCATING
ON THE ADJACENT SITE AND THE REZONE OF THE PROPERTIES TO
THE NORTH. UNANIMOUS, must be confirmed at the next
regular meeting due to lack of quorum.
92-46
MOTION JOHN HUDDLESTON, SECONDED TOM CUNDY TO TABLE THE
FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS: #2. STEP FORWARD TASK FORCE
ASSIGNMENTS, #3. PARKSIDE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT
AND #9. RESIDENTIAL LOT SIZES. UNANIMOUS.
Meeting adjourned at 6:10 P.M.
SUBMITTED
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1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
December 1, 1992
November 17, 1992
December 15, 1992
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AMENDED CULLENS ROAD (GUIZZETTI) ANNEXATION (ANX-8064)
STAFF REPORT
OCTOBER 11, 1992
Background
Request from Joe Guizzetti to expand pending twenty-acre
annexation to a total of 120 acres This annexation was
initiated by Robert Henderson to annex five acres along Cullens
Road and has already been expanded once at the request of
Clifford McFall
Basic Facts
Proponent: Joe Guizzetti
Proposal: Annexation with RA-5 zoning
Public Notice: Posted, published and mailed to agencies and
neighboring property owners
Location: All land between Cullens and Killion Road not already
in city
Comprehensive Plan: Residential Agriculture; within proposed
urban growth boundary
Zoning: RA-5 proposed for all Guizzetti property; ten acres of
McFall and Henderson would be annexed as single-family
residential pursuant to earlier hearings
Area Land Use: Mixed pasture and rural residential
Soils and Geology: Spanaway gravelly sandy silt loam; rolling or
small moraines with slopes generally below 5%
Parking & Traffic: Both Cullens and Killion Roads are designated
as local streets; a minor arterial is planned to connect
these streets at north end
Wastewater/sewer: This area is outside Yelm's service area
Water Supply: Southern one-third of the area is within service
area
Fire and Police Protection: Southern limit of annexation is about
one-half mile from stations, northern limit over one-mile
from stations
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Applicable Standards and Policies
State Environmental Policy Act (SEPA): DNS issued
Comprehensive Plan: Residential Ag policy #1 - The [City] of Yel
should designate appropriate parcels of land RA to ensure
the continuity of zoning with the property's present use
Yelm Municipal Code: RA zone purpose and use defined by Chapter
17 20
Staff Analysis
Proposed annexation and zoning appear to be consistent with Yelm
Comprehensive Plan Zoning for development should await new
comprehensive plan Principal issue is county "slice" that
would remain between Yelm Creek and Cullens Road The proposed
annexation would result in over 80% enclosure of that area
reducing necessary ownership approval for annexation of the
"slice" from ordinary 60% to only 50%
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YELM AVENUE - VANCIL ROAD COMMERCIAL REZONE (ZON-S06S)
STAFF REPORT
OCTOBER 11, 1992
BackQround
A request from Jack Peugh, Leo Lefebvre and others to change the
zoning of a total of sixteen acres south of Yelm Avenue and east
of Vancil Road from Residential-Agriculture Five-acre to
Commercial (C-1) zoning Area of proposal has been expanded by
the city staff to include partially enclosed properties
Basic Facts
Proponents: Jack Peugh, Jean D Knight, Orrin Peugh and Leo
Lefebvre
Proposal: Zone change from RA-5 to C-1
Public Notice: Published and mailed to agencies and neighboring
property owners
Location: Tax parcel numbers 11-03, -04, -0401, -0402 and 14-03
in Section 30 of Township 17 North, Range 2 East W M
Comprehensive Plan: Commercial, except most southerly five acres
along Vancil is residential-ag designation
Zoning: Residential-Agriculature - 5; C-1 proposed
Area Land Use: Residential including mobile home park with
commercial to the west and to the north across Yelm Avenue
Traffic: Yelm Avenue is designated as a principal arterial,
left-turn lane extends in front of some of these parcels;
Vancil Road is designated as "local" street (unless selected
to replace Morris Road as principal south bound route in
Five-Corners reconstruction) Inadequate right-of-way
exists in some sections New east-west arterial is expected
to be located through some of this property
Water Supply: Within service area, distribution system extends
along Yelm Avenue
Wastewater: Within Phase II service area, new sewage system lS
expected to include collection trunk lines along Yelm
Avenue
Fire and Police Protection: Site is about one mile from stations
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Applicable Standards and Policies
State Law: RCW 35 63 120 provides for rezone hearing by
Commission
State Environmental Policy Act (SEPA): DNS issued
Comprehensive Plan: Commercial Policy #1 - Commercial developmen
should occur in locations with major arterial access
Yelm Municipal Code: Chapter 17 40 defines C-1 zone purpose and
uses
Staff Analysis
The only significant issue seems to be the boundaries of this
zone and whether to include parcels where the owner has expr
no preference The southern boundary should extend no further
than final alignment of the planned east-west arterial (Y-2) It
should be clearly understood by property owners that direct
access to this new arterial will not be available from commercial
developments
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STAFF REPORT
OCTOBER 9, 1992
BackQround
A request from Ethel Jo Curry and Erling Birkland to change the
zoning of a total of eight acres on both sides of Vancil Road
from Residential-Agriculture Five-acre to Multi-Family
Residential zoning
Basic Facts
Proponent: Ethel Jo Curry and Erling Birkland
Proposal: Zone change from RA-5 to R-2
Public Notice: Published and mailed to agencies and neighboring
property owners
Location: Tax parcel numbers 14-0501, 14-0600 and 13-06 in
Section 30 of Township 17 North, Range 2 East W M ; SE 400
Block of Vancil Road
Comprehensive Plan: Residential Ag designation
Zoning: Residential-Agriculature - 5 acre; R-2 proposed
Area Land Use: Rural residential with commercial to the north
along Yelm Avenue
Critical Areas: Parcel west of Vancil may include wetlands
Soils and Geology: Spanaway gravelly and stony sandy loam with
slopes up to 15% along old Yelm irrigation ditch on south
Topography: Slight slope to south with steep rise along southern
boundary to Yelm irrigation ditch
Traffic: Vancil Road is designated as "local" street (unless
selected to replace Morris Road as principal south bound
route in Five-Corners reconstruction) Inadequate right-of-
way exists in some sections New east-west principal
arterial is expected to be located north of this property
Water Supply: South of service area, distribution system extends
along Yelm Avenue
Wastewater: New sewage system is expected to include collection
trunk lines along Yelm Avenue Service availability to this
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Fire and Police Protection: Site is about one mile from stations
Applicable Standards and Policies
State Law: RCW 35 63 120 provides for rezone hearing by
Commission
State Environmental Policy Act (SEPA): Threshold determination
pending
Comprehensive Plan: Residential Policy #7 - "Multi-family
development should occur along arterial streets and where
they can act as a transitonal use between single family and
commercial/industrial areas
Yelm Municipal Code: Compare chapters 17 22 and 17 24 (R-1 and
2) zone purposes
Staff Analysis
Once again the City is confronted with a request for multi-famil
zoning where the City's comprehensive plan is indefinite
regarding the standards for siting such uses The principal
issue appears to be whether this area should constitute a
transitional area between the Yelm Avenue commercial area and
future lower residential densities to the south
A decision is made more difficult by the undetermined alignment
of future arterials and collectors in the area
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STAFF REPORT
OCTOBER 11, 1992
Back~round
A request from David Asher to change the zoning of a total of six
acres north of West Road from Single-family Residential to Multi-
Family Residential zoning
Basic Facts
Proponent: David Asher
Proposal: Zone change from R-1 to R-2
Public Notice: Published and mailed to agencies and neighboring
property owners
Location: Lots 2 and 3 of short plat 1948 in Lot 15 of Block 36
of McKenna Irrigated Tracts in Section 19 of Township 17
North, Range 2 East W M
Comprehensive Plan: Designated single-Family residential
following correction of annexation action
Zoning: Single-family residential (R-1); R-2 proposed
Area Land Use: Single-family area with some commercial to the
south of West Road
Critical Areas: Wetlands along Yelm Creek (north edge of parcel)
with development subject to review within 300 feet;
development within 200 feet of Yelm Creek is also subject to
shorelines regulations
Soils and Geology: Spanaway gravelly and stony sandy loam with
slight slope, well-suited to homesites; McKenna gravelly
silt loam along creek, severe development limitations due to
ponding
Topography: Gentle slope toward creek
Traffic: West Road designated as minor arterial; future
connection west to Stephens Street is planned
Water Supply: Within service area, distribution system extends to
the site
Wastewater: Within Phase II" service area
New sewage system
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is expected to include collection trunk lines along West
Road
Fire and Police Protection: Site is about one-half mile from
stations
Applicable Standards and Policies
State Law: RCW 35 63 120 provides for rezone hearing by
Commission
State Environmental Policy Act (SEPA): DNS issued
Comprehensive Plan: Residential Policy #7 - "Multi-family
development should occur along arterial streets and where
they can act as a transitonal use between single family and
commercial/industrial areas
Yelm Municipal Code: Compare chapters 17 22 and 17 24 (R-1 and R-
2) zone purposes
Staff Analysis
Once again the City is confronted with a request for multi-family
zoning where the City's comprehensive plan is indefinite
regarding the standards for siting such uses The principal
issues appears to be whether this area should constitute a
transitional area between the Yelm Avenue commercial area and
future lower residential densities to the north, and what
environmental damage would result to Yelm Creek
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City of YellD
105 Yelm Avenue West
POBox 419
Yelm, Washington 98591
206-458-3244
AGENDA
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 20, 1992
4:00 PM, YELM CITY HALL
1 Call to Order, Roll Call, Approval of Minutes
(September 15, 1992, regular meeting and September 29, work
session minutes enclosed )
2 "Step Forward Task Force" Assignments - Selection
3
Amended Cullens Road Annexation and Zoning
PUBLIC HEARING - Recommendation to Council
enclosed)
(ANX-8064) -
(Staff report
4 Vancil Road / Yelm Avenue Commercial Rezone - (ZON-8068) -
PUBLIC HEARING - Recommendation to Council (Staff report
enclosed )
5
Vancil Road / Multi-Family Rezone - (ZON-8067) - PUBLIC
HEARING - Recommendation to Council (Staff report
enclosed )
6 Asher Rezone - (ZON-8069) - PUBLIC HEARING - Recommendation
to Council (Staff report enclosed)
7 Crystal Springs Estates Preliminary Plat (SUB-8065) - Review
and recommendation to Council (Staff report enclosed)
8 Parkside Preliminary Subdivision Plat (SUB-8065) - Review
and recommendation to Council (Staff report enclosed)
9
Residential Lot Sizes - Continued Discussion
enclosed)
(Staff report
Enclosures are available to non-Commission members upon request
If you need special arrangements to attend or participate in this
meeting, please contact Shelly Badger, City Clerk, at 458-3244
1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
WORK SESSIONS
November 3, 1992
December 1, 1992
REGULAR MEETINGS
November 17, 1992
December 15, 1992
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA SUMMARY
OCTOBER 20, 1992
DESCRIPTION
Call to order and review of minutes of prior meetings
Selection by Commission members of Step Forward Task
Force group assignment
Public hearing regarding land use and zoning of 120
acres proposed for annexation between Cullens and
Killion Roads
Public hearing regarding zoning of sixteen acres
fronting on south side of Yelm Avenue between Vancil
Road and Morris Road
Public hearing regarding propos for eight acres of
multi-family zoning along Vancil Road
Public hearing regarding proposal for multi-family
zoning of six acres north of West Road along Yelm
Creek
Review of proposed 20 lot subdivision east of Crystal
Springs Road
Review of proposed 44 lot subdivision east of Cochrane
Park
Continued discussion of appropriate lot sizes and
residential densities in new single-family and multi-
family development.
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MINUTES
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION
SEPTEMBER 29, 1992
Members present: Tim Schlosser, Jim
Huddleston, George Knight, Torn Cundy,
Longmire and Jim Keyes. Staff present:
Colombo.
Brown, Torn Gorman, Joe
John Kinnee, Roberta
Todd Stamm and Agnes
Meeting opened at 4:00 p.m. by Tim Schlosser.
Stamm gave members an update from the 9/23/92 City Council meeting.
Stamm informed members that the Council had passed the Open Space
Ordinance with a sunset clause that would expire on 12/6/92. Stamm
also told members that the Council had approved the Lewis rezone
request subject to the UCBO locating on adjacent property and to
application for the rezone of the two parcels to the north of
Lewis' property.
Stamm gave an overV1ew of staff report on resident1al zone lot
sizes.
Roberta Longmire
suggested the
R-1
9,000
12,000
following sizes:
R-2
sq. ft. 7,200 sq. ft.
10,000
Houses
Duplexes
Members agreed that the area had adequate amounts of low income
housing and that their goal was to encourage an environment for all
to enjoy by creating a balanced, diversified community. Discussion
continued on ways to encourage building to attract middle/upper
middle income families. Areas mentioned to ach1eve this goal
included lot size requirements, placing quotas on lot sizes, impact
fees and amenities.
Members requested that Stamm gather information from similar size
cities to determine how they managed this problem. Knight
suggested that all members put together their own ideas on the
matter for the next meeting.
Meeting adjourned at 5:30 p.m.
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1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
REGULAR MEETINGS
November 3, 1992
December 1, 1992
October 20, 1992
November 17, 1992
December 21, 1992
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 29, 1992 WORK SESSION
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City of YellD
105 Yelm Avenue West
POBox 479
Yelm, Washington 98597
206-458-3244
MEMORANDUM
September 24, 1992
To Yelm Plannin9 Commission
From: Todd Stamm, City Planner
Re Residential Lot Sizes
This memorandum summarizes the record and issues surrounding
the minimum lot sizes and residential density standards of
Yelm
History
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In 1971 Yelm adopted its first 'comprehensive zoning
ordinance This ordinance included two residential -zones;
R-1 (Family Residential) and R-2 (Multiple Family
Residential Zone) Single-family and duplex resldences were
permitted in the R-1 zone With public water the minimum
lot size in R-1 was 6,000 square feet subject to Thurston
County and Washington State Health Department Regulations
and Approval Without public water the minimum lot size
was 9,600 square feet, also subject to health approval The
R-2 zone permitted multi-family residences on 9,600 square
feet plus 500 square feet per dwelling unit (or 10,000
sqaure feet plus 700 square feet per dwelling unit if
without public water), also subject to health approval
In 1973 Yelm added a Residential-Agriculture (RIA) zone
which permitted single family dwellings on 7,200 square feet
and duplexes on 10,000 square foot lots
During 1988 Yelm conducted an extensive revision of its
zoning ordinance During the spring the Planning Commission
minutes reflect continual work on this project In August
the City Council held a public hearing on the proposal and
approved the ordinance except for the standards section,
which Gene Borges had indicated needed more work Notes and
minutes of work session during this period do not clearly
indicate the progress of working toward the final product
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Unnumbered Drafts are in the record with a 9,600 square foot
minimum for a RE-9 6 zone and deleting six other single-
family zones with larger lot sizes A section for R-2
zoning would have required 7,200 square feet for a single-
family home or the first dwelling of a multiple family
dwelling plus 3,600 square feet for each additional
dwelling According to the October 11 minutes the
Commisssion made final changes to the standards section
Unfortunately there is no other record of what occurred at
that meeting The general concensus of those participating
seems to be that large lot sizes were discussed but that the
6,000 square foot minimum was retained to ensure that
existing small lots could be developed
In December and without holding another public hearing the
Council again passed the new zoning ordinance, this time
including standards These standards establish a minimum
lot area of 6,000 square feet in the R-1 zone (abbreviated
as RE-6 0 in the standards section); and 7,200 square feet
for single-family homes, duplexes and the "first dwelling of
a multiple-family dwelling" plus 2800 sqare feet "for each
additional unit over two) in the R-2 (Multifamily
residnenial zone)
THE ISSUES
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(1) The ordinance is ambiguous regarding the minimum lot
size for duplexes in the R-1 zone I interpret it as
requiring 12,000 square feet since duplexes on 6,000
square feet would seem to be inconsistent with the "low
density" purpose statement of the zone. No number
other than 6,000 is mentioned in the R-1 standards
(2) What lot size is required for a tri-plex, four-plex,
etc , in the R-2 zone? One section of the ordinance
state that 7,200 is required for the "first dwell ing"
and another adds 2,800 square feet for each unit "over
two ..
(3) Should the minimum lot size in the R-1 zone be
increased? (And complementarily, should the minimum
single-family lot size in the R-2 zone be decreased?)
Apparently the lot size for R-1 was established under a
mistaken impression that it was necessary to protect
the rights of owners of existing small lots. A more
direct option is available which is to "grandfather"
nonconforming lots of record (State law permits their
use in any case if construction begins within five
years of platting)
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BACKGROUND
The state's growth managment housing policy is to "encourage
the availability of affordable housing to all economic
segments of the population of this state, promote a variety
of residential densities and housing types, and encourage
preservation of existing housing stock" The trend in many
communities is to reduce minimum lot sizes to reduce the
public and private costs of housing
The "Uniform Zoning Code" issued by the International
Conference of Building Officials includes minimum lot sizes
ranging from 6,000 to 35,000 square feet. Thurston County's
"Suburban Residential" zone requires 7,200 square feet per
lot The county's recently repealed "unmapped use district"
had no specific minimum lot size, but single family
development in the Yelm area was usually limited to three or
four homes per acre by health standards (a limitation not
applicable where sewers are available)
PITFALLS
There are two purposes for enlarging lot sizes which are
subject to statutory and constitutional challenges A large
lot size requirement solely to increase the cost of housing,
with no exceptions or alternatives, would be inconsistent
with State policy A large lot size requirement to exclude
certain types of people would constitute unconstitutional
exclusionary zoning
However, city's are permitted to require large lots if a
variety of options are available, if the space ("'light and
air") is deemed necessary for public health and welfare, or
if density limitations are imposed because of a lack of
adequate public services or facilities, such as water supply
or sewage treatment capacity
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105 Yelm Avenue West
POBox 479
Yelm, Washington 98597
206-458-3244
SPECIAL WORK SESSION AGENDA
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 1992
4:00 PM, YELM CITY HALL
NOTICE
DATE
1 Call to Order and Roll Call.
2 Residential Lot Sizes - Review of mlnlmum lot size and
residential density standards (Staff memo enclosed)
3 "Step Forward Task Force" Assignments - Selection
Enclosures are available to non-Commission members upon request
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If you need special arrangements to attend or participate in this
meeting, please contact Shelly Badger, City Clerk, at 458-3244
1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
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REGULAR MEETI_NGS
October 20, 1992
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December 15, 1992
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CHANGE OF YElM rRLANNINGI
(COMMISSIO~MEETING DATE
The-Yelm Planning Commission
regular worksession has been
rescheduled from October 6, 1992, to
Tuesday, September 29, 1992, at 4:00
p.m. All interested citizens are invited
to attend Please contact Todd
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458-8408 if you have any questions.
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Yelm City Clerk
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City of Yelm
105 Ye1m Avenue West
POBox 479
Y elm, Washington 98597
206-458-3244
PUBLIC OOI'ICE
~ OF YEIM PI..ANNJN:; CCMrrSSION MEET:0iK3 DA'lE
The Yelm Planning Cornnission regular worksession has been reschedu~.ed fran
October 6, 1992 to Tuesday, Septentler 29, 1992 at 4:00 IM. All interested
citizens are invited to attend. Please contact Todd Starrm, Planning Depart-
ment, at 458-8408 if you have any questions.
ATI'EST:
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Yelm City Clerk
Published in the Nisquall y Va2.1~y News: Thursday, September 24, 1992
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MINUTES
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 1992, 4:00 PM,
YELM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Agenda Item/
Motion No.
1. The meeting was called to order at 4:00 by Tim Schlosser.
Members present: Jim Brown, Tom Gorman, Roberta
Longmire, George Knight, Jim Keyes and Tim Schlosser. Joe
Huddleston, John Kinnee, and Tom Cundy were unable to
attend. Guests: Ben Cook, Randy Henderson, Henrietta
Morey-Allen and Richard Allen. Staff members present:
Todd Stamm and Agnes Colombo.
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MOTION BY TOM GORMAN, SECONDED GEORGE KNIGHT APPROVING
AUGUST 18, REGULAR MEETING MINUTES AS PRINTED AND THE
SEPTEMBER 1, 1992 WORK SESSION MINUTES AS CORRECTED.
MOTION CARRIED.
Agenda addition:
Residential (R-1)
size
for
standards
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zone.
Lot
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Parks ide Rezone (ZON8066).
Request to rezone approximately ten acres immediately
east of Cochrane Park from Multi-Family Residential to
Single-Family Residential. The plat is vested and not
subject to the Open Space and Greenbelt standards unless
the Commission makes that a condition of the zone change.
Public Hearing Opened at 4:05 p.m. Speakers were
requested to identify themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was expressed. No audience
objections to any Planning Commission members
participation was voiced. Commission member Roberta
Longmire does have property adjacent to the site. No
member received information, other than staff reports,
prior to the public hearing.
Stamm gave an overview of the staff report and stated
that this project was not subject to conditions of the
Open Space and Greenbelt Ordinance.
When asked Ben Cook, project manager, stated that R-l
zoning was preferred and would also be most advantageous
to the city.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
Randy Henderson: stated that he was the pastor of and
speaking in the interest of the Yelm United Methodist
Church. He expressed concern about the possibility of
people cutting across church property due to lack of
fencing/buffers between this project and the
church/parsonage property and said that he would miss the
wildlife that will be forced out by the development of
the property.
Ben Cook: said he expected the primary purchasers of the
planned homes would be between the ages of 25-48 and have
small children and that buffering plans/possibilities
were unknown at this point in the project.
Tim Schlosser stated that this discussion was more
appropriate to the plat review.
Randy Henderson: said that he was 1n support of the
rezone at this point.
Public Hearing closed at 4:16 p.m.
Members discussed the history of the property involved
and circumstances leading to a zone change to multi-
family two years ago.
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MOTION BY ROBERTA LONGMIRE, SECONDED BY TOM GORMAN THAT
THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE REZONE
SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE OPEN SPACE AND GREENBELT
ORDINANCE WHEN IT IS ADOPTED.
Stamm explained he was not sure but that he believed that
approval could be granted subject to meeting the stated
conditions. He intends to meet with the rezone
proponents and Ben Cook to determine if they intend to
challenge the condition set forth in the motion. The
Council would have to be more specific in determining
what the actual conditions would be. Research could
reveal that this is not a possibility.
Jim Keyes requested that the record show that as the
preliminary plat/rezone were submitted in good faith of
existing ordinance conditions he believed it would be
unfair to require compliance with new ordinances.
Roberta Longmire stated that she did not want an
amendment to her motion.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
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MOTION 93-39
CARRIED.
3. Parks ide Preliminary Subdivision Plat (SUB8065). Stamm
gave an overview of the staff report and explained that
this is the first review by the Commission for a proposed
44 lot subdivision. The proposed plat is still being
reviewed by staff.
Roberta Longmire left the meeting expecting to return
shortly.
Members reviewed the plat map and noted the improvements
needed at the 3rd/Mosman intersection. Also discussed
was a possible pedestrian path from the plat to the Yelm
City Park area. Lot size as drawn is between 6,300-
6,400 sq. ft. The intent is to provide single family
homes for young families with small children. Homes
would be 1-1 1/2 stories with double car garages.
Approximately 35,000 sq. ft. would be required to meet
Open Space and Greenbelt Ordinance requirements. Ben Cook
questioned the possibility of reversing the rezone
request and retaining the current multi-family zoning.
Members stated that it was their intent that the 6,000
square ft. minimum lot size was to allow use of existing
plats; not to establish a minimum lot size for future
plats.
4. Amended Burnett Road Annexation and Rezone (ANX8053).
Stamm gave a brief overview of his memorandum of 9/10/92
explaining that owners of three properties totaling ten
acres have requested that they be included in the Burnett
Road Annexation. The Commission will be review the
request and make a recommendation on appropriate zoning.
Some of the property owners have requested R-1 zoning.
Public Hearing Opened at 4:45 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identify themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was expressed. Jim Keyes left the
room as he has an involvement in the project. No one in
the audience voiced an objection to participation by any
Planning Commission member. No member received
information, other than staff reports, prior to the
public hearing. With both Longmire and Keyes absent from
the meeting a quorum requirement was not met.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
Members reviewed a letter from Juan Rodriguez requesting
inclusion in this Amended annexation. Members felt that
this was Council's decision as to whether or not
additions should be allowed.
Henrietta Morley-Allen: one of the owners of parcels
involved in the amendment to ANX8053 clarified that she
actually owns 2 - 1 1/2 acre and 1 two acre parcels and
that she had requested annexation of her property to the
City several years ago with R-1 zoning. The annexation
request was not possible at that time due to the property
not being contiguous. She questioned the suitability of
1/5 zoning as housing density already exceeded that
level. The applicant felt that it would be a waste of
time to have to go through the rezone process at a later
date.
Commission members emphasized that their intent was not
to obtain additional fees but that members were dealing
with conflicting lot sizes and that the issue needed to
be settled prior to addressing additional zoning
requests.
Public Hearing closed at 5:00 P.M.
92-40
MOTION BY GEORGE KNIGHT, SECONDED BY TOM GORMAN THAT THE
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE
AMENDED ANNEXATION WITH 1 DWELLING PER 5 ACRE ZONING.
5. Open Space and Greenbelt Ordinance. Public Hearing
Opened at 5:10 p.m. All speakers were requested to
identify themselves prior to speaking. No conflict of
interest was presented. No one in the audience voiced an
objection to participation by any Planning Commission
member. No member received information, other than staff
reports, prior to the public hearing.
Stamm reviewed the Commission recommended changes made to
Draft 2. Tom Gorman requested that tables be used to
present in the future. Stamm explained that creates
problems when having ordinances codified but that he
would try to have the material available as a table in
the future. Stamm explained that he had not yet
determined the indexing method for calculating dollar
amounts to be used in exchange of opens space (16.12.070)
but that it would most likely be the assessor's
valuation. Stamm recommended approval with this one
issue to be decided at a later date.
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Roberta Longmire returned to the meeting at 5:13 p.m.
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92-40 was repeated for the record and a vote
MOTION 92-40 PASSED.
Jim Keyes left the meeting at 5:30 p.m.
Discussion continued on visual vs. useable open space,
50% access, dollar exchange fees, and maintenance.
Public Hearing closed at 5:45 p.m.
92-41
MOTION BY TOM GORMAN, SECONDED BY GEORGE KNIGHT THAT THE
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL BE TO
APPROVE THE OPEN SPACE AND GREENBELT ORDINANCE. MOTION
CARRIED.
6.
Step Forward Task Force. Stamm explained the task force
would be advisory to the staff and would be making
recommendations on the comprehensive plan only. The task
force will allow the Planning Commission to discontinue
regular monthly work sessions.
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Lot Size Standards for R-1 Zone. Members reviewed a
handout of zoning standards from the Yelm Municipal Code.
All agreed that the issue should be addressed in a work
seSS1on. Work session was scheduled for Tuesday,
September 29, 1992 at 4:00 p.m.
Meeting adjourned at 6:18 p.m.
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TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15 1892
4 00 PM, YELM CITY HALL
Call to Order Roll Call, Approval of Mlnutes
(August 18 1992 regular meetlng and Sectember
seSSlon minutes enclosed l
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2 Parkside Rezone (ZON-8066) - PUBLIC HEARING -
Recommendation to Council (Staff report enclosed
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PUBLIC HEARING - Recommendation to Councll (Staff report
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Recommendatlon to Councl1
6 Step Forward Task Force Assignments - D1Scusslon
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If you need speclal arrangements to attend or participate in this
meeting, please contact Shelly Badger, Clty Clerk at 458-3244
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION
SEPTEMBER 1, 1992
Members present: Tim Schlosser, Jim Brown, Tom Gorman, Joe
Huddleston, George Knight and Tom Cundy. Absent: John Kinnee,
Roberta Longmire and Jim Keyes. Staff present: Todd Stamm and
Agnes Colombo.
Meeting opened at 4:00 p.m. by Tim Schlosser.
No changes to the August 18, 1992 minutes were recommended.
Stamm explained the process for determining net built area: total
amount of land minus all public pieces (streets etc.) divided by
the number of housing units = net built area. Stamm also stated
that wetlands/critical areas are counted as open space and not
factored in for net built area.
Stamm gave examples of open space requirements for lot sizes
ranging from 3600 sq. ft. to 1 acre. Members felt additional
divisions were needed. Stamm will prepare new table. Stamm
explained that developer suggested open space could be rejected for
cause.
Members discussed a $2 per sq. ft. fee that could be paid instead
of providing open space. Members felt that the fee should be tied
to the real estate index/assessor's value or some other instrument
to keep the rate current without requiring reevaluation by the
Commission.
All agreed that they believed it important to provide accessible
space for children to play and that the Commission establish and
stick by specific ways to meet this goal. Stamm will research and
revise the draft ordinance.
Members felt it would be beneficial to send the draft ordinance to
consultants, including Skillings & Chamberlain and Ed True, for
input prior to the 9/15/92 Public Hearing.
Members discussed various ways of recording Commission votes in the
minutes including voice vote, showing approval without a specific
count; show-of-hands, giving a count of the number of votes for or
against; and roll call vote, recording who specifically votes for
or against. Members were comfortable with continuing the current
practice of taking a voice vote. It was suggested that anyone
desiring to show a specific vote request during the meeting that
the record show the vote/their specific vote or that a roll call
vote be taken.
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Members discussed the legality of alternate positions and that a
proxy could attend but would not be able to vote or be counted
towards realizing a quorum.
The "Step Forward" briefing was tabled for restructuring.
Joe Huddleston questioned the Councils position on growth. Stamm
stated that although no Council position for or against growth had
been stated the Council recognized that growth was inevitable
and that the City should prepare for it.
Meeting adjourned 5:10 p.m.
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Members discussed the legality of alternate positions and that a
proxy could attend but would not be able to vote or be counted
towards realizing a quorum.
~J.- The II Step Forward II briefing was tabled for restructuring.
ana H~/;;- . Huddleston questioned the Councils position on growth. Stamm
~stated that although no Council position for or against growth had
been stated the Council recognized that growth was inevitable
and that the City should prepare for it.
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105 Yelm Avenue West
POBox 479
Yelm, Washington 98597
206-458-3244
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
WORK SESSION AGENDA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 1992
4:00 P.M., YELM CITY HALL
1. Call to Order and Roll Call
2. Open Space and Greenbelt Standards (draft enclosed)
Discussion and Review of Examples
3 .
Voting Records - Discussion of Procedures
4 .
"Step Forward"
Identification
Program
comprehensive
Plan
Issues
Enclosures available to non-Commission members upon request.
If you need special arrangements to attend or participate in this
meeting, please contact Shelly Badger, City Clerk. (458-3244)
NEXT MEETING: Tuesday, September 15, 1992
1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
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Ca 11 to order
Coninuing review and discussion of proposed open space
and greenbelt requirements for residential development
Discussion will focus on examples from within the Yelm
area
Discussion to determine preferred procedure for
recording individual votes of members of the
Commission
A kick-off meeting for the Step Forward program is
planned for late September to begin drafting Yelm's
growth management plan In preparation for that
meeting, Commission members will begin identifying
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YELM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
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Motion No.
92-30
92-31
MOTION JOE HUDDLESTON, SECONDED LYLE SUNDSMO SELECTING
TOM GORMAN AS ACTING CHAIR IN TIM SCHLOSSERS ABSENCE.
MOTION CARRIED
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The meeting was called to order at 4:00 by Tom Gorman.
Members present: Joe Huddleston, Jim Brown, Tom Gorman,
Roberta Longmire, John Kinnee, Lyle Sundsmo and Tom
Cundy. George Knight, Jim Keyes and Tim Schlosser, were
unable to attend. Guests: Cindy Cecil, Floyd Cummings,
Jim Kitchen, Robert Frankhauser, John Stephenson,
Marisuel Thompson, Clyde Tate, Henrietta Morey-Allen and
John Huddleston. E.L. & Mollie Hendrickson, Kathy
Scheiot, Mary Lou Kaffel, Kathleen & William Remski and
Clifford McFall. Staff members present: Todd Stamm and
Agnes Colombo.
CONSENSUS MOTION APPROVING JULY 21, REGULAR MEETING AND
JULY 7 AND AUGUST 4, 1992 WORK SESSION MINUTES AS
PRINTED. MOTION CARRIED.
2. Mountain View Road Zoning and Annexation (ANX8053).
Request to annex approximately 100 acres along Mountain
View Road into the city and to zone at least 20 acres for
mul ti -family development and 5 acres for commercial
development.
Public Hearing Opened at 4:02 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identify themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was expressed. No audience
objections to any Planning Commission members
participation was voiced. No members had received
information, other than staff reports, prior to the
public hearing.
Stamm gave an overview of the staff report and identified
those areas with specific zoning requests. The area is
not within the boundaries of Phase II of the sewer
service area. Stamm explained that the Planning
Commission would not be addressing the annexation issue.
A recommendation on the proposed zoning for the
annexation area would be made by the Planning Commission
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Motion No.
to the City Council. The C-1 segment was consistent
with Yelm's Comprehensive Plan. Stamm stated that one of
the options available 1S to table the multi-family
request until the appropriate sizes and sites for multi-
family are defined, sometime within the next year, in the
Comprehensive Plan.
Joe Huddleston questioned the island surrounded by the
proposed multi-family zoning. Stamm replied that all
unidentified property was R/A zoning with 1/5 density.
John Kinnee questioned the use of Burnett Road as an
alternative route in the Yelm Comprehensive
Transportation Plan. Stamm stated that Burnett Road was
identified in the plan as an alternative route but that
during the design study Mountain View Rd. would also be
looked at as a possible alternate. When questioned Stamm
stated that the transportation plan called for 2 lanes
short term and 4 lanes long term and for right-of-way
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John Huddleston identified himself as one of the
annexation proponents and stated that he and Eric
Anderson had received good indications that property
owners wanted to be part of the annexation. He also
stated that the request for C-1 zoning was adjacent to
existing City zoned C-l property and was not out of the
ordinary. He had no exact plans for the property at this
time and is aware that as C-1 the property could be used
for multi-family by zoning definition.
Joe Huddleston questioned if all the property owners
wi thin the annexation area block had agreed to the
annexation. John Huddleston stated that not all but well
over the required amount were in favor of the annexation.
Stamm informed Commission members that all property
owners within 300 feet of the proposed annexation area
had been notified of today's Public Hearing.
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Mrs. Remski stated that she lives on the west side of
Killion Road and was under the impression that Killion
Road was going to be discussed. She was concerned with
the possible use of property adjacent to her home. She
had moved here from Long Island, NY because of
uncontrolled growth and feels she is seeing it start to
happen here. She felt that the schools, roads,
environmental issues and police force were not prepared
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Motion No.
to accommodate growth made possible by this
annexation/zoning issue. She wanted to know how many
apartment buildings/units would be permitted in the
entire proposed annexation area. She indicated a
irreversible precedent would be set by allowing this
request.
Mr. Remski questioned why multi-family would even be
considered for the area when it was not included in the
sewer service area. Stamm answered that the sewer does
extend to the vicinity (Yelm High School) and that the
City is not proposing multi-family zoning; the property
owner is proposing that zoning for his/her land. The
Planning Commission's function is to make a
recommendation to the City Council as to whether they
find that request acceptable.
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Tom Gorman asked Stamm to identify procedures from land
being zoned to actual use of the land under the
designation. Stamm replied that if land were zoned R-2
two opportunities for utilization exist. 1) Use with a
septic system - apartments have practically not been done
on septics and that approval has generally been limited
to two units per acre. 2) A request has been made to
include the area in the sewer service area, the request
has not been resolved at this time. Once the zone is
established multi-family becomes a permitted use on the
propoerty. At this time there is no public review for
apartments.
Mrs. Remski questioned intended use for the annexation
area on Killion Road. Stamm responded that the
Hutchinson property would remain at 1/5, the other
proponents had requested that they be included in the
annexation but had not requested a specific zoning
designation. You would have to ask the property owner
what he/she intended long term. Stamm pointed out that
the City does not intend to extend sewer service outside
the City limits so that was one benefit of annexing and
that the City in general does not annex portions of
parcels.
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Henrietta Morey-Allen stated that she owned property
located one parcel north of the Burnett Rd. annexation
and that she would like to be included in the annexation.
Stamm explained that would be at the discretion of the
City Council and that if they did allow inclusion it
would require another round of public hearings.
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Kathy Scheidt, owner of the parcel lying between the
annexation request area and Henrietta Morey-Allen's
parcel stated that she also might be interested in
annexation. She would like to know more about the
benefits/drawbacks of annexing to the City. Gorman
responded that this was not the best setting for this
information. Due to a heavy agenda it was recommended
that they both contact City staff for answers to their
questions. Stamm suggested that if they wanted to be
included in the annexation the issue and decision would
be made next week by the City Council.
Stamm pointed out to the audience that when they state
that they just became aware of the annexation or other
issue that this is the first public step in the process.
Gorman asked what zoning they would be requesting, both
indicated residential.
Robert Frankhauser expressed concern that added septic
systems could be a threat to the water. He suggested a
study be done prior to allowing 100 additional
homes/families to use the system. Staff explained that
they would be on City water. Gorman pointed out that all
health considerations were a matter for the Thurston Co.
Health Dept. and not solely within of the Planning
Commission's decision making scope.
John Huddleston questioned if the annexation exceeds the
Interim Growth Boundary. Stamm replied yes and explained
that while the County has stated they would not object to
annexations within the Interim Growth Boundary all other
annexations would be considered on a case by case basis.
Public Hearing closed 4:33 p.m.
The audience was reminded that the City Council would
review the request at the 8/26/92 meeting and that anyone
who so desired could request to be receive mailings by
indicating on the sign-in sheet their desire to be
included on mailing lists.
Gorman clarified that the Commission was to make a
recommendation on proposed zoning of the properties if
the annexation was approved. Stamm recapped the zoning
being requested.
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Motion No.
MOTION HUDDLESTON, SECONDED CUNDY THAT COMMISSION
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING
FOR 10 ACRES/5 ACRES (ANX8053) AND THAT UPON SEWER AND
WATER SERVICE BECOMING AVAILABLE COMMISSION RECOMMENDS
COUNCIL APPROVAL BE GRANTED FOR THE REQUESTED TWENTY
ACRES OF MULTI-FAMILY.
Roberta Longmire expressed concern about one parcel being
surrounded by R-2 creating an island.
Joe Huddleston questioned the possibility of putting 1n
multi-family on the proposed C-1 parcels which would be
permitted. John Huddleston replied that the reality of
the situation was why would he want to waste 10 acres of
prime commercial at an intersection on multi-family
housing? Also that the county would not allow
development over 1/5 in that area until sewer and water
was available. He stated further that you couldn't
currently do a duplex on less than five acres.
Sundsmo questioned if annexation could be dealt with
separate from zoning. Stamm replied yes.
Gorman called for show of hands:
Motion failed.
Ayes-2
Opposed-4.
92-32
MOTION JOHN KINNEE, SECONDED LYLE SUNDSMO THAT THE
COMMISSION RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL OF 10 ACRES OF
COMMERCIAL AS REQUESTED WITH NO RECOMMENDATION FOR THE
ADDITIONAL PROPERTY (ANX8053).
Roberta Longmire requested an amendment to the motion
stating that the balance of the annexation be zoned 1/5.
Kinnee responded that he would rather that was not added
to his motion.
Gorman called for a show of hands: Ayes-5 Opposed-1
Tom Gorman recapped the motion for the audience.
Kathleen Remski questioned how many mUlti-family units
are allowed per acre and how many families would be
allowed in the annexation area? Stamm explained that the
City formula for apartments allows 2 on the first 7,200
square feet and for a 4-plex 11,100 square feet (1/4
acre). Larger than 4-plex 1,200-1,600 square feet per
unit.
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Motion No.
3. UCBO SPECIAL USE PERMIT (SUP8063). Request to permit
land uses allowing specific programs to be held at the
proposed Community Center. Some of the intended uses are
not allowed outright in many of the City's zones. A
Special Use Permit would allow unique land uses not
addressed in Yelm's Zoning Ordinance. The permit would
be active for one year and if not used in that period
would no longer be valid.
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Public Hearing Opened at 4:45 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identify themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was expressed. No one in the
audience voiced an objection to participation by any
Planning Commission member. No member received
information, other than staff reports, prior to the
public hearing.
Stamm reviewed the staff report and explained that the
Commission had recommended approval of a Special Use
Permit to allow the UCBO to use a site located in the
Industrial area ~t Rhoton Rd. and NP Road. Due to
complications a hew site was needed for the Community
Center. Two sites were proposed. #1 located on Berry
Valley Road and #2 located on Crystal Springs St. (A
Planning Commission recommendation to City Council to
deny a rezone in the Crystal Springs St area will be
heard at the Council's 8/26 meeting.)
Cindy Cecil explained that the UCBO was having difficulty
finding an appropriate site for the center. They need a
site to house administrative offices, licensing, client
services and Head Start classes, a multi-purpose room for
community use, space for a baseball diamond and the
shelter. The thrift shop would remain at its current
location. They need a closing by 1 October or they will
lose one of their grants. She asked John Stephenson to
address the site on Berry Valley Road.
Gorman requested public comment.
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Mollie Hendrickson stated an objection to use of the
Berry Valley Road site by the UCBO. She felt the road
was not adequate for the increased vehicle load and that
the noise in the area would increase due to the proposed
recreational objectives. She also felt they would lose
their view of Mt. Rainier and that their property value
would be lowered. Hendrickson told members that her
property taxes had doubled for 1993 and asked for a
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Motion No.
description of the type of shelter planned for the
property.
Cindy Cecil stated that as a property owner directly
across the road from the proposed Crystal Springs St.
site she had to struggle with the same thoughts and
feelings Mrs. Hendrickson had expressed. Cecil stated
that she believed the proposed facility and baseball
diamond would not obstruct the Hendrickson's view. The
shelter is a 28'x37' house which will be rehabilitated.
The shelter will provide 3 bedrooms in addition to a
studio apartment that will be occupied by a case
management provider. The UCBO currently sends anyone in
need of shelter to a motel. This has created some
difficulty in sChool/job attendance for the clients.
Cecil estimated that the shelter would be used 1-2 times
per month for 2-3 days duration, it would not be in use
most of the time. Domestic violence victims and those
with drug/alcohol related problems would also not be
housed there. Most clients would be women and children.
Hendrickson felt that "intent" was not always what
happened and that the Crystal Springs St. site offered
better vehicular access.
John Stephenson stated that it was also possible to use
Durant as a way to access Yelm Avenue from Berry Valley
Road. Stephenson stated that he was the president of and
represented the legal property owner Estate Realty and
that they were requesting a portion of the site (1 1/2
acres) to be used for mUlti-family and 1/3 of an acre
commercial to be used for an automotive repair shop.
Gorman requested clarification of the situation. Is the
Commission dealing with the UCBO SUP only or are they
also addressing the zoning? Stamm stated that only the
Special Use Permit is on the agenda. A favorable
recommendation on the Berry Valley Rd. site would result
in trying to separate the parcel from the SW Yelm
annexation, otherwise annexation could take more than six
month.
Stamm distributed a letter from Jackie and Frank Jones
objecting to the Crystal Sp. site and identifying the
Head Start program as well as other proposed uses to be
inconsistent with the general land use zoning
(industrial).
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Floyd Cummings stated that he lives directly south of the
proposed Crystal Springs site and was not opposed to the
UCBO being located there. He felt it was preferable to
houses.
Cindy Cecil was disappointed that the Jones' weren't in
attendance. She was aware of their letter objecting to
use of the Crystal Springs location. Cecil stated that
she did not want to speak on the Jones' behalf but she
felt that after a conversation between Mrs. Jones and
herself concerning Cecil's vision for the center Mrs.
Jones still had concerns but might view the situation in
a more favorable light. Cecil again stated that she did
not want to speak for Mr. and Mrs. Jones.
Gorman asked for Commission comments/questions.
Sundsmo asked if a favorable recommendation could be made
for both of the sites?
Longmire pointed out that Berry Valley Road is all
residential and that the use would better fit Crystal
Springs.
Brown would be in favor of the Crystal Springs and asked
if Industrial zoning would be retained? Stamm replied
that Industrial zoning would be retained.
Cundy asked if the UCBO would have to agree to not object
to any future industrial use of surrounding properties.
This had been required previously.
Jim Tally compared the UCBO Center to a school which
could be located in a residential area.
John Huddleston asked if he understood correctly that
the Planning Commission recommendation to deny the
Crystal Sp. St. rezone remained an open issue until the
City Council made its decision? Joe Huddleston replied
that was essentially correct. John Huddleston then asked
if the City Council could still choose to rezone the
entire Crystal Springs area residential on both sides? I
Stamm explained that the rezone did not have a proponent; ,
it had been a Planning Commission initiated item and that i
the only possible rezone would be Harry Lewis' as he was
appealing the Planning Commission's recommendation.
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Bill Remski stated that he felt that Crystal Springs was
a more appropriate site than Berry Valley.
Cindy Cecil said that she would really like to see the
Commission give approval for both sites as one approval
limits available options. She believes that the UCBO
could prove to be a very good neighbor.
Sundsmo requested clarification - he understood that a
recommendation was not being made on the zoning issue -
the Commission was making a recommendation on the Special
Use Permit for the two sites.
Public Hearing closed at 5:16 p.m.
MOTION ROBERTA LONGMIRE, SECONDED JIM BROWN THAT THE
PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL
TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT (SUP8063) REQUEST FOR THE
CRYSTAL SPRINGS ST. SITE.
Gorman called for a show of hands: Ayes-unanimous
MOTION BY JOHN KINNEE, SECONDED LYLE SUNDSMO THAT THE
PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR
APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT (SUP8063) APPLYING EQUAL
STATUS TO CONSIDERATION OF THE BERRY VALLEY ROAD SITE.
Gorman called for a show of hands: Ayes-5 Opposed-l
Stamm pointed out that anyone in the audience objecting
could request a hearing before the City Council. He
stressed that a hearing was not automatically scheduled
that it must be requested.
4. Amended Henderson Zoning & Annexation (ANXS052).
Public Hearing Opened at 5:20 p.m. All speakers were
requested to identify themselves prior to speaking. No
conflict of interest was presented. No one in the
audience voiced an objection to participation by any
Planning Commission member. No member received
information, other than staff reports, prior to the
public hearing.
Stamm reviewed the staff report. Mr. Henderson requested
annexation of his 5 acre parcel on Cullens into the City
with R-1 zoning. Clifford McFall, who was present at the
meeting, is requesting annexation of his adjoining
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parcel, also with R-1 zoning. To even the boundary the
owner of the adjoining parcel on Killion was asked if
would want to include his 10 acre parcel in the
annexation. He indicated that he was also interested in
annexing his entire 135 acres. He has submitted a Notice
of Intent to Annex. The Commission is being asked at
this time to recommend annexation zoning for the 20 acre
request onl; 10 acres (two 5 acre parcels) of R-1 and 10
acres of 1/5. The annexation falls outside the sewer
service area.
Mrs. Remski expressed her concern at the possibility of
an additional 135 acres being annexed to the City. Stamm
explained that if the property owner followed through and
gathered the needed signatures, and if the City Council
gave its approval to proceed then a public hearing would
be scheduled. Mrs. Remski again expressed the same
concerns she raised earlier, police/schools/traffic about
the impact of this possible annexation.
Gorman asked Stamm to clarify the Planning Commission vs.
City Council concerns in the issue.
Stamm explained that Mrs. Remski was raising budget
issues and gave a brief overview of impact fees and
concurrency (funding of necessary facilities). The Yelm
Planning Commission's focus is primarily on the
Comprehensive Plan which will have to include a
concurrency element as of July 1993.
In response to Mrs. Remski's questioning Stamm gave a
brief overview of the Yelm Comprehensive Transportation
Plans identification of proposed road/traffic changes for
the area.
Mrs. Remski again expressed her concerns about school
overcrowding and the effects of the possible 135 acre
annexation.
Gorman thanked Mrs. Remski for her comments and stated
that he didn't believe that those issues could be
resol ved today and would like to stay focused on the
hearing.
Tom Cundy left at 5:37 p.m.
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Gorman asked for additional comments from the public and
stated that the commission was concerned with the 20 acre
annexation area only.
Clifford McFall stated that the 135 acre possible
annexation was news to him. He commended Yelm on being
the first city in the state to adopt a Growth Management
required Comprehensive Transportation Plan.
Public Hearing closed at 5:42 p.m.
MOTION JOHN KINNEE, SECONDED LYLE SUNDSMO THAT THE
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL BE TO
ACCEPT THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST FOR THE AMENDED
HENDERSON ANNEXATION (ANX8052).
Gorman called for a show of hands: Ayes-Unanimous
Gorman reminded audience that they could sign up to
receive notification of the decision or request a hearing
before the City Council.
5.
McKenzie Right-of-Way Vacation (VCT8058) Stamm gave a
brief overview of the request to vacate the McKenzie
right-of way where it dead-ends into Burlington Northern
Railroad and that the city could request 50% of the true
value of the land for compensation. Total land area
about 65 'x100'. Members felt they should always maintain
a utility easement in these cases.
MOTION JOHN KINNEE, SECONDED JOE HUDDLESTON THAT THE
COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE MCKENZIE RIGHT-OF-
WAY VACATION (VCT8058) REQUEST INCLUDING AN EASEMENT FOR
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
Gorman called for a show of hands: Ayes-Unanimous
6.
Yelm Creek Pedestrian Bridge Shoreline Development Permit
(SDP8060). Confirmation of a prior non-quorum action
recommending approval of shoreline development permit for
a foot-bridge across Yelm Creek at Fort Stevens
Elementary School.
MOTION JOHN KINNEE, SECONDED LYLE SUNDSMO THAT MOTION 92-
29 (SPD8060) RECOMMENDATION BE CONFIRMED.
Gorman called for a show of hands: Ayes-Unanimous
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Urban Growth Area Proposal. Final review and
recommendation to the City Council of Yelm urban growth
area to be proposed to Board of County Commissioners.
If approved this will probably be the boundary for at
least the next 10 years. Discussion reviewed various
aspects of the proposed boundary and reasons for
including/not including certain specific areas.
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MOTION BY LYLE SUNDSMO, SECONDED JOHN KINNEE THAT
COMMISSION RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE URBAN GROWTH
AREA PROPOSAL AS DISCUSSED AT THE 8/4/92 WORK SESSION.
Gorman called for a show of hands: Ayes-Unanimous
Meeting adjourned at 6:12 p.m.
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POBox 479
Yelm, Washington 98597
206-458-3244
City of YellD
AGENDA
YELM PLANNING CO~1~lISSION
TUESDAY, AUGUST 18, 1992
4:00 PM, YELM ClfY HALL
1 Call to Order, Roll Call, Approval of Minutes
(July 21, 1992, regular meeting and July 7 and August 4.
1992, work session minutes enclosed)
2 Mountain View Road Zoning and Annexation (ANX-8053) - PUBLIC
HEARING - Recommendation to Council (Staff report
enclosed)
3 United Citizens Betterment Organization Special Use Zoning
(SUP-8063) - PUBLIC HEARING - Recommendation to Council
(Staff report enclosed )
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Amended Henderson Zoning and Annexation (ANX-8052) - PUBLIC
HEARING - Recommendation to Council (Staff report
enclosed)
5 McKenzie Right-of-Way Vacation (VCT-8058) - Recommendation
to Council (Staff report enclosed)
6 Yelm Creek Pedestrian Bridge Shoreline Development Permit
(SOP-8060) - Confirmation of non-quorum action
7 Urban Growth Area Proposal - Recommendation to Councll
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AUGUST 18, 1992
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Call to order and review of minutes of prior meetings
Public hearing on request from David Frick of Wauna to
change the zoning of approximately ten acres
immediately east of Cochrane Park from Multi-Family
Residential to Single-Family Residential zoning to
permit single-fami ly homes on small lots
First review by the Commission of proposed 44 lot
subdivision proposed for the area described above
Proposed plat is still being reviewed by the staff
Public hearing regarding zoning of ten acres proposed
to be added to the pending Burnett - Mountain View Road
annexation
Public hearing regarding Commission proposal to adopt
open space and greenbelt standards for residential
developments
Discussion regarding Commission members roles in Step
Forward Task Force preparation of new Yelm
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AUGUST 18, 1992
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Call to order and review of minutes of prior meetings
Request from Eric Anderson, John Huddleston and others
to annex about 100 acres lying east and west of
Mountain View Road and to zone twenty acres for multi-
family development and five acres for commercial
development
Request from UCBO for special use zoning to permit
administrative offices, licensing services, a Headstart
pre-school, recreational fields, and a residential
shelter at one of two alternative sites on Berry Valley
or Crystal Springs Roads
Request from Clifford McFall to expand the Henderson
Annexation west of Cullens Road and to increase the
single-family zoned area from 5 to 10 acres
Request from James Harding of Harding Greens Co to
vacate the McKenzie right-of-way where it dead-ends
into Burlington Northern Railroad
Confirmation of prior non-quorum action recommending
approval of shoreline development permit for a foot-
bridge across Yelm Creek at Fort Stephens Elementary
School
Final review and recommendation to the City Council of
Yelm urban growth area to be proposed to Board of
County Commissioners
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION
AUGUST 4, 1992
Members present: Roberta Longmire, Tim Schlosser,
Gorman, Joe Huddleston, Lyle Sundsmo and Tom Cundy.
Kinnee, George Knight, Jim Keyes. Staff present:
Agnes Colombo.
Members reviewed the July 7, 1992 work session and July 21, regular
minutes.
Jim Brown, Tom
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Members viewed and commented on a staff prepared map of the Urban
Growth Area showing suggested land use designations and expected
density for each area, which should identify a reasonable area to
serve yet still be large enough to accommodate projected
population increases from the current 5-6,000 up to 29,000. Stamm
explained that this proposed boundary showing possible densities
would be submitted to Thurston County for approval. The next step
in the process once the boundary is final will be the real land use
plan.
The final plan bQundary wo~ld be firm. Some flexibility in how the
land is used would be permitted. The city and county will
reconsider the plan every ten years.
Members suggested that:
Property east of wilkensen and south of the Canal be
designated as commercial to allow flexibility; that the
commercial area downtown be 2-3 blocks deep; that commercial
areas be estimated at 1 home/acre; that no Ft. Lewis property
be in the reserve growth areas; and that the Thompson Creek
rural density cutoff be located at the first sixteen quarter
section line south of 93rd Avenue.
Members reviewed and discussed each item of Stamm's staff
memorandum on Greenbelt and Open Space Issues.
1.
Members felt that some type of open space should be
required.
That it should be a condition of a subdivision, site
plan, SEPA review or other development approval;
Skip in numbering in memorandum.
That the option of setting aside other land outside the
project area be at the discretion of the city.
That the option of having developers pay a specified sum
into an open space fund instead of setting aside open
space be at the discret10n of the city.
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In cases, such as where the open space would be unusable
or inefficient the City should be able to require a
substitute fee.
That landscaping instead of open space be required for
commercial and/or industrial developments.
That open space size be determined by the number of
households.
That the base open space amount be 1,000 sq. ft. per
household and that the smaller the lot size the larger
the amount of open space area be the required.
Acceptable uses of open space should include: recreation,
trails and bike paths, education, wetland and stream
buffers, land use buffers, landscaped areas (the amount
above normal standards), underground power line and other
utility easements and wellhead protection areas.
Additionally wildlife habitat and environmentally
sensitive areas (wetlands, open water) may comprise up to
50% of the requirement.
11. That the open space be 95% free of buildings and that
impermeable surfaces be 5% or less.
12. Open space area could be: Privately owned, but limited in
use by covenants or other agreements, Private, but in
common ownership of a neighborhood or other group, or
public land. In any of these instances 50% of the area
must be accessible.
13. That an offer to dedicate open space to the City would be
accepted at the City's discretion.
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Stamm will prepare a draft ordinance for Commission and
Council review and approval based on ideas and suggestions
from today's meeting.
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105 Yelm Avenue West
POBox 479
Yelm, Washington 98597
206-458-3244
City of Yelm.
MEMORANDUM
July 28, 1992
To: Yelm Planning Commission
From Todd Stamm, City Planner
Re: Greenbe 1 t - Open Space Issues
Consideration of an open space requirement presents a number
of policy and regulatory issues This memo summarizes some
basic questions that should be discussed by the Commission
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Should open space in the form of greenbelts, common
areas, park land, environmentally sensitive areas,
floodways or other undeveloped areas be required as a
condition of new development?
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If so, should it be a conditlon of:
annexation;
subdivision,
site plan;
building permit,
S E P A review and/or
other development approval?
4 Should developers be provlded the option of setting
aside other land outside the project area?
5 Should develpers have the option of paying a specified
sum into an open space fund instead of setting aside
open space?
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unusuable or inefficient, should the substitute fee be
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Should open space be required for commercial and/or
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8 Should the size of the open space be based upon:
Total acreage of the development;
Number of lots in the development; or
Number of households, residents, or employees
9 How much open space per household/resident/employee
should be required? (Should it depend on the type of
open space proposed?)
10 What uses of the open space would be permitted?
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Recreation
Trails and bike paths
Education
Stormwater ponds
Environmentally sensitive areas (wetlands, open water)
Wetland and stream buffers
Wildlife habitat
Agriculture and/or forestry
Land use buffers
Landscaped areas (road frontage, gardens, etc )
Overflow parking
Power line and other utility easements
Wellhead protection areas
11 To qualify as open space must the site be 100% free of
buildings?
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Privately owned, but limited in use by covenants or
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Private, but in common ownership of a neighborhood or
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105 Yelm Avenue West
POBox 479
Yelm, Washington 98597
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AGENDA
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, AUGUST 4, 1992
4:00 P.M., YELM CITY HALL
1.
Call to Order, Roll Call, Review of Minutes.
(July 7, 1992, work session and July 21, 1992 regular meeting
minutes enclosed.) !
Urban Growth Area - Review of proposal to Thurston County
Commissioners. (Draft to be distributed at meeting.) I
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enclosed. )
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
1. The meeting was called to order at 4: 00 by Chair Tim
Schlosser.
Members present: Joe Huddleston, Jim Brown, Tim
Schlosser, Roberta Longmire, and Tom Cundy. Tom Gorman,
George Knight, Jim Keyes and John Kinnee were unable to
attend. Guests: Floyd Cummings, Eddie Windsor, Jim
Kitchen, Don Miller and Harry Lewis. Jackie and Frank
Jones, Fred Tharp, Chauncy Lufkin and Clifford McFall.
Staff members present: Todd Stamm and Agnes Colombo.
92-22
MOTION BY ROBERTA LONGMIRE, SECONDED JOE HUDDLESTON
THAT JUNE 16, 1992 MINUTES BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN. MOTION
CARRIED.
92-23
MOTION BY JOE HUDDLESTON, SECONDED TOM CUNDY THAT ITEM
#10, GREENBELT REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENTS/SUBDIVISIONS
BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED.
2.
Crystal Springs Road Area Rezone Public Hearing.
Public Hearing Opened at 4:05 p.m.
Schlosser explained that the goal of the Commission was
not to reduce the amount of industrial property but to
take a logical approach to dealing with the area as it
has been moving toward residential in a piecemeal
fashion. Schlosser requested that all speakers identify
themselves for the record.
Jackie and Frank Jones - questioned why their property
was divided on the map. Stamm explained that the map was
copied from a dated assessor's map and that it did not
reflect any recent changes, and that the line dividing
the property between Rhoton Road and Crystal Springs
Street was an arbitrary division. The Jones' currently
raise horses and operate a business out of their home and
would not want their property divided in a manner where
part of the parcel would be zoned Residential and part of
it Industrial. Schlosser reassured the Jones' that there
was no intent to divide their property.
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Motion No.
Eddie Windsor - was representing Mark Carpenter and
stated that they would like to be able to continue on the
development they have planned and to be able to sell the
two homes they have already built.
Chauncy Lufkin - (Amtech) expressed his belief that the
proposed rezone puts a damper on trying to attract
additional industries to the area. He stated that
current owners have to stop and think about possible
additions or expansions to current plants as neighbors
might complain. He further stated that he would not be
comfortable with expected expansion if this change took
place.
Schlosser expressed that these points were well taken and
stated that the Commission did not desire to push out
industrial but that the Commission was dealing with an
industrial island and had received three recent requests
to change property in the area to R-l.
Joe Huddleston added that he feels that industrial area
should not be reduced but that strong restrictions would
have to put in a motion to the City Council to control
traffic in the school vicinity.
Floyd Cummings - stated that there was housing no matter
which way you went.
Tom Cundy questioned which posed the greatest threat -
auto traffic generated from 150 homes or truck traffic
from possible industries.
Cummings - stated that the street was a speed track now
and that additional development would add to the problem.
Harry Lewis - explained that he was trying to figure what
to do with property that he has held for 20 years and
that when surveyed by him neighbors had indicated a
preference for housing over industrial. He asked if
approval would be given to putting an industrial plant
like Amtech on Crystal Springs Road and if that would be
fair to the existing home owners? He also encouraged the
Planning Commission to pursue the issue of buffering.
Lufkin - stated that Lewis' comments were well taken. He
then referred to a City Council *Resolution stating that
nothing would be done to adversely effect industrial
areas. He feels the rezone would discourage new
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industries from coming into the area.
* January 27, 1986 Special Council Meeting, Paragraph 4,
Item 4., Motion by Michael Cooper, seconded Rick Kolilis.
There will be no rezoning that will detract or devalue or
cause economic hardship on existing industrial zoned
area. Unanimous as councilmembers not present had given
prior approval to the motion.
Lewis - asked Lufkin if he would really build a plant
next to Floyd Cummings? Lufkin said he would not as they
are designated heavy industrial.
Lewis stated that he had tried unsuccessfully to
utilize his property as industrial.
Schlosser stated that the Planning Commission's intention
is "not" to do anything. They are against the piecemeal
erosion of the area and that is the reason for the
examination of the issue.
Jackie Jones - stated that she was not against the rezone
and that she felt the area did not need to be dealt with
as a whole because of three requests.
Don Miller - questioned what is existing on the property
at this time.
Bob Cecil questioned the effect on surrounding
property. He stated his concern about the adjacent
Kitchen property that has recently been developed and the
fact that the noise from the animals he keeps might
create problems for new residents. Schlosser explained
that his property is grandfathered and would only be
changed from RIA at the request of the property owner.
Cummings - agreed with Cecil.
Schlosser asked Cummings if he envisions his property as
industrial at some point in time or if he was trying to
keep neighbors out? Cummings replied that he was trying
to keep neighbors away.
Miller - suggested rezoning a portion of the property
North to South.
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Motion No.
Stamm explained that once the Growth Management Plan was
adopted changes could be made only once per year as part
of an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan.
Public Hearing closed at 4:43 p.m.
Schlosser summarized that property owners present were
against the change from Industrial to Residential and
that he believed that if a change to all was not desired
that none should be changed.
Miller - asked why?
Schlosser asked how could we approve a rezone for 40
houses? It would effect the everything else in the area.
Stamm added that the City has the authority to limit
industrial traffic on Crystal Springs due to weight-
loads/stopping distances. Industrial traffic can be
limited to Rhoton Road and First Street.
Also mentioned were aspects of community planning
including: the creation of a light industrial
designation, the length of the perimeter where industrial
abuts housing and possible changes to be compatible,
environmental issues, buffering and traffic, and if it
was possible to create a light industrial designation and
industrial suited property that is not currently within
the city limits. All agreed that there currently is a
market for residential property not industrial.
Lewis - stated that he planned 20 lots, it would be fewer
with a buffer. He also stated he could not visualize the
possibility of putting an industry in the area.
Miller - stated that the zone designated didn't matter to
him.
Schlosser requested a motion.
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MOTION ROBERTA LONGMIRE, SECONDED JOE HUDDLESTON THAT A
RECOMMENDATION OF NO ACTION BE MADE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
MOTION CARRIED.
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Motion No.
3. CRYSTAL SPRINGS ESTATES REZONE Public Hearing opened at
4:58 p.m.
Huddleston remarked that this project would require a
good buffer.
Lufkin - stated that he opposes changes to R/A zoning.
Cummings - has no position.
Lewis - expressed his appreciation of the opportunity to
be heard.
Cundy questioned the zoning designation when the property
was purchased.
Miller - explained that the entire annexation and zoning
process was fairly casual.
McFall - questioned the length of the buffer and stated
that he felt a buffer running along the dividing line
would effectively buffer residential property from
industrial.
Lewis - stated that the horse farm would serve as a
buffer between the proposed residential and industrial.
Cundy questioned that if the Lewis property was rezoned
what if any changes were planned for the Jones' property
and if it would be appropriate to view the site.
Schlosser explained that the project had been carried
over from last month meeting and could not be delayed.
Longmire expressed her opposition to the taking of any
industrial and stated that if it was allowed now it would
have to be permitted when requested the next time.
92-25
MOTION BY ROBERTA LONGMIRE, SECONDED JOE HUDDLESTON THAT
THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY
COUNCIL BE TO DENY THE LEWIS CRYSTAL SPRINGS ESTATES
REZONE. MOTION CARRIED.
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Crystal Springs Estates Preliminary Plat. Stamm
explained that Lewis would have to request the City
Council to grant a Public Hearing on his request.
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Motion No.
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5. Mountaineer Court Preliminary Plat.
Stamm reviewed the staff report. Members discussed lot
sizes, density and if the 40' road would provide enough
buffering. With the exception of the buffering, to the
south, there was no reason to do anything but approve the
request.
MOTION BY JOE HUDDLESTON, SECONDED JIM BROWN THAT THE
COMMISSION RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE PLAT
REQUEST WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER
ADDRESS ITEMS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THAT BUFFERING ON
THE ROAD TO THE SOUTH BE PROVIDED.
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Kitchen Rezone Continued Public Hearing.
Stamm explained that the request was to change zoning
from R/A to R-1 and that a 50' setback from Yelm Creek
was required. Two - four homes could be built on the
property.
Kitchen Rezone Public Hearing opened at 5:30 p.m.
McFall - asked what the zoning on the other side of the
creek was. As that property is in the county the zoning
is 1/5.
Jim Kitchen - stated that he owned the property directly
west and had 8 building sites on the property.
Public Hearing closed at 5:32 p.m.
MOTION BY LONGMIRE, SECONDED HUDDLESTON THAT THE
COMMISSION RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL BASED ON PRIOR
ACTIONS AND ON COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OTHER "SHORELINE"
REQUIREMENTS. MOTION CARRIED.
7. Henderson Annexation Request. Public Hearing opened at
5:35 p.m.
Bob Henderson - stated that he had single family zoning
in mind for the property and that with city services he
could develop the property to provide income. Longmire
questioned whether he intended to develop all or just a
part of the property. Henderson responded all.
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McFall - questioned reason for single-family residential
and criteria for that zoning.
Stamm explained that the minimum lot size is 6,000 sq.
ft. Schlosser pointed out that particular size was a
concession made to allow use of existing platted lots and
was not intended to be used as a reference for future
lots.
Public Hearing closed at 5:40 p.m.
MOTION BY JOE HUDDLESTON, SECONDED ROBERTA LONGMIRE THAT
COMMISSION RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE
HENDERSON ANNEXATION AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GROWTH
PLAN AND IS WITHIN THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY AND THAT THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THIS PROPERTY AS
SINGLE-FAMILY (R-1) ZONING. MOTION CARRIED.
TOM CUNDY DEPARTED LEAVING THE COMMISSION SHORT OF A
QUORUM.
8.
Yelm Creek Pedestrian Bridge Shoreline Development Permit
Public Hearing.
Stamm explained that the City was the proponent in this
project. The bridge would be built by the Corps of
Engineers as a training project. It would measure 36'
long, 10' wide and would have handicapped access ramps.
This project would improve access to children walking to
and from Fort Stevens.
Public Hearing opened 5:45 p.m. Closed at 5:46 p.m.
MOTION HUDDLESTON, SECONDED BROWN THAT COMMISSION
RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE YELM CREEK PEDESTRIAN
BRIDGE SHORELINE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT SUBJECT TO
CONFIRMATION OF A QUORUM.
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Subdivision Ordinance. Members discussed the need for
Planning Commission review on a final plat. Members felt
that until standards were developed final plats should be
returned to the Commission for review.
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Motion No.
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Green Belts.
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Longmire distributed ratios for suggested
areas for developments/subdivisions as
5-10 lots...12,OOO sq. ft.
11-15 lot. ..24,000 sq. ft.
16-20 lots.. .36,000 sq. ft.
21-25 lots.. .48,000 sq. ft.
plus an additional 12,000 sq. ft. for each additional 5
lots or portion thereof.
Members agreed that this was a priority issue and could
be a vehicle to encourage larger lot sizes. They also
agreed that the buffering issue needed to be addressed
and that they could expect continued pressure to change
industrial to residential.
Members felt that developers will continue to try to gain
approval for 6,000 sq. ft. lots due to the expected
increase of military buildup at Ft. Lewis and that
additional multi-family units are needed.
Meeting adjourned 6:10 p.m.
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NEXT REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - AUGUST 18, 1992
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YELM F;LANNING COt1t1JSSION
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4:00 P M YELM Ct.ry HALL
1 Call to Order, Roll Call, Approval of Minutes
(June 16 1992, regu 1 ar meet i ng and Ju 1 y 7, 1992, worksess i on
minutes enclosed )
Crystal Springs Road Area Rezone (ZON-8061) - PUBLIC HEARING
Recomnedation to Council (Staff report enclosed)
Crystal Springs Estates Rezone (ZON-80SS) - CONTINUED PUBLIC
HEARING - Recommendation to Council
Crystal Springs Estates Preliminary Plat (SUB-8056) -
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING - Recbmmendation to Council
Mountaineer Court 'Preliminary Plat (SUB-80541 -
Recommendation to Council
Kitchen Rezone (ZON-8047) - CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING -
Recommendation to Council
Henderson Annexation Zoning (ANX -8052) - PUBLIC HEARING -
Recommendation to Council (Staff report enclosed)
Yelm Cree~ Pedestrian Bridge Shoreline Development Permit -
PUBLIC liEARING - Recommendation to Council (Staff report
enclosed )
~ Subdivision Of'dinance .- Counei I communication regarding
finai plat review \Staff briefing ,)
EnclosUl-es are available to nOi,-Comrnission members upon request
If IOU need special arrangements to attend or participate in this
ITl-3'etifl9, please contact Shelly Badger at 458-3244
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA SUMMARY
JULY 21, 1992
DESCRIPTION
Call to order and review of minutes of prior meetings
Proposal by City of Yelm to amend Yelm Comprehensive
Plan map and zoning map to change designation of about
twenty-five acres east of Crystal Springs Road from
Industrial to Single-Family Residential
Request from Harry Lewis to change zoning of five-acre
parcel east of Crystal Springs Road from Industrial to
Single-Family Residential zoning
Request from Harry Lewis to subdivide the "item 5'
parce 1 into twenty lots
Request from Edward Windsor to subdivide one and one-
half acre parcel east of Crystal Springs Road into six
lots
Request from Jim Kitchen to change the zoning of a one
and one-half acre parcel west of Crystal Springs Road
along Yelm Creek from Residential-Agriculture 5-Acre t
Single-Family Residential
Request from Robert Henderson for annexation and
residential zoning for five-acres west of Cullens Road
Request from City of Yelm for a substantial shoreline
development permit to build a 10-foot wide, 36-foot
long pedestrian bridge across Yelm Creek from Fort
Stephens Elementary School to Prairie Christian Church
Inquiry from City Council regarding Planning Commissi
interest in continuing to hold public hearings on final
subdivision plats
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION
JULY 7, 1992
Members present: Roberta Longmire, Tim Schlosser and Tom Cundy.
Absent: John Kinnee, Tom Gorman, Joe Huddleston, George Knight,
Jim Keyes and James Brown. Staff present: Todd Stamm and Agnes
Colombo.
Members discussed the illegal sign at the corner of Edwards and
Yelm Ave. W. A staff member will send a letter and copy of sign
ordinance to the realtor.
Schlosser asked if any response had been received following notice
of the Crystal Springs rezone public hearing. None reported.
Members present discussed buffering which could be used as means of
keeping children out of an area or it could be a green belt. Stamm
explained that you buffer from what you "permit" not from what
exists. Schlosser questioned if a 100' buffer would be viable,
Stamm replied that it would be by using both adjoining properties.
Meeting called to order at 4:20 p.m.
Those present reviewed the County-Wide Planning policies draft.
Stamm felt that the staff was satisfied with the document and
believed that the county had made many compromises to reach this
point. The city staff position is to not accept the attached
vision statement.
Stamm gave an annexation briefing. In the works at this time are:
1. A 10% petition on Mt. view Road - working on 60%
2. Vancil/Morris Road - will be returned by Boundary Review
Board within 1-2 weeks.
3. McNaughton Triangle - 10% petition - working on 60%
4. Forrester - completed
5. Yelm Creek/Middle Road - 10% petition - working on 60%
6. Slopak - Boundary Review Board waiver requested
7. SW Yelm Annexation - 10% petition, staff review EIS
submitted last Thursday, should be nearing completion on
it within 6 months.
8. Henderson/Cullens Road - 60% petition received
9. 105th/Baker - 10% submitted not before City Council yet
The function of the Boundary Review Board was discussed. Once the
Urban Growth Boundary is accepted their basic function no longer be
needed.
Stamm has a
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proposal before Council called "Step Forward" that
them create and appoint a task force of 50-100:
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individuals to serve on subcommittees to aid and advise the City
in developing the new growth management plan. The elements they
would work on are: land, housing, capital facilities, utilities,
transportation, economy and design and possibly
parks/recreation/open space. Each group would include a council
member, planning commission member and interested individuals. If
implemented, it's possible that the monthly Planning Commission
work session could be skipped. The Park Board could be the
subcommittee on the parks/recreation/open space element.
When asked, Stamm set the start date for the sewer in the fall of
this year with completion sometime toward the end of '93.
Members discussed minimum lot sizes and community ownership of
greenbelt areas vs. donation of such areas to the City. Community
ownership can result in better cared for, more attractive areas.
Meeting adjourned at 5:10 p.m.
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1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
WORK SESSIONS
REGULAR MEETINGS
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September 1, 1992
October 6, 1992
November 3, 1992
December 1, 1992
August 18, 1992
September 15, 1992
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
WORK SESSION AGENDA
TUESDAY, JULY 7, 1992
4:00 PM, YELM CITY HALL
Call to Order and Roll Call
2 County-Wide Planning Policies - Review and Comment (Draft of
June 5, 1992, enc 1 osed)
3 Annexations in Progress - Staff Report
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Crystal Springs Road Rezone (Industrial to Single Family
Residential) - Preparation for Public Hearing on July 21
5 Street Design - Cross-Sections OiScusslon
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Ca 11 to order
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Review of County-wise Planning Policies proposed for
ratification by the City Council and adoption by the
Thurston County Commissioners These polices would be
applied in preparing Yelm's Growth Management Plan A
public hearing is scheduled before the City Council on
Wednesday, July 8
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The staff will summarize the status of annexation
pending before the City, including those on Mi 11,
Vancil, Cullens, Longmire and Mountain View Roads
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Discussion of proposal to change zoning east of Crystal
Springs Road from Industrlal to Single-Family
Residential Directions to the staff regarding
information needed at the public hearing
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Discussion of street 'cross-section issues such as
pavement widths, sidewalks utility locations. and
right-of-way widths both for immediate subdivision and
long-range planning purposes
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TUESDAY, JUNE 16, 1992, 4:00 PM, YELM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Agenda Item/
Motion No.
1. The meeting was called to order at 4: 05 by Chair Tim
Schlosser.
Members present: Tom Gorman, Joe Huddleston, Jim Brown,
George Knight, Tim Schlosser, Roberta Longmire, Tom Cundy
and John Kinnee. Jim Keyes was unable to attend. Guests:
Ted & Audrey Foreid, Rosemary Demich, Joe Zelazny,
Margaret Clapp, Roy Gibson, Jim & Faye Myers, Leo
Lefebvre, Floyd Cummings and Mark Carpenter. Erling
Birkland, Colin Young, Jim Kitchen, John Huddleston, Don
Miller, Milt Johnson, Wayne McDonald and Dennis Suo Perry
Shea and Bob Hazlett, Skillings and Chamberlain and staff
members Todd Stamm and Agnes Colombo.
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MOTION BY JOHN KINNEE, SECONDED JOE HUDDLESTON THAT
MAY 19, 1992 REGULAR MEETING AND JUNE 2, 1992 WORK
SESSION MINUTES BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN. MOTION CARRIED.
92-16
MOTION BY GEORGE KNIGHT, SECONDED JOE HUDDLESTON THAT
AGENDA ITEM #9, YELM GROWTH MANAGEMENT TRANSPORTATION
PLAN BE CHANGED TO #4 AND ALL OTHER ITEMS DROPPED ONE
POSITION AND THAT #2 BE MOVED TO THE END OF THE MEETING.
MOTION CARRIED.
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Emanuel Lutheran Church Alley Vacation request.
92-17
MOTION BY JOHN KINNEE, SECONDED JIM BROWN THAT COMMISSION
RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE EMANUEL LUTHERAN
CHURCH ALLEY VACATION REQUEST WITH PUBLIC UTILITY
EASEMENT BEING RETAINED BY THE CITY. MOTION CARRIED.
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Yelm Growth Management Transportation Plan and Public
Hearing. Todd Stamm informed those present that the Yelm
Planning Commission would be making a recommendation on
the Yelm Growth Management Transportation Plan to the
City Council. He also stated that the final decision
would be the Council's and that they would hold a public
hearing, during evening hours, at a later date and that
the upcoming public hearing will be advertised.
Notification would be sent to those signing up on sign-in
sheet provided at today's meeting.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
Bob Hazlett, Skil.lings and Chamberlain, presented the
Yelm Growth Management Transportation Plan. Overhead
projection transparencies were displayed and copies
distributed to Commission members and the audience. A
transparency set will be supplied to the City.
Tim Schlosser requested that comments during the
Transportation Plan Public Hearing be restricted to no
more than 5 minutes and that all speakers identify
themselves for the record.
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opened at 5:10 p.m.
Erling Birkland - asked if the Y-2 property had been
defined or was still a general area? Hazlett answered
that it had not yet been defined. Birkland also inquired
as to the expected Y-2 time frame. Hazlett replied that
7-8 years would probably be needed to construction
because of the lengthy environmental process. The next
step would be design studies which would allow
opportunities for public comment. Design Study results
could even result in a recommendation to not build the
road. When questioned about the time frame for right-of-
way Hazlett felt that two years was likely. Stamm added
that this could be much delayed by state funding. Stamm
also stated that the developer could negotiate with the
City and choose to do this project instead of another
developer required project.
Leo Lefebvre - stated that tentative routes involve his
home and business and that road designs for a proposed
project in the five corners area a couple years ago were
not adequate. He also stated that sometimes engineers
cause needless delays and expressed his belief that
county response is too slow and that maybe the state
would be better.
Margaret Clapp - questioned plans made, if any, to
preserve the existing railroad and if the intent was to
encourage commercial development to take place in the
current commercial zones. Bob Hazlett responded that a
rail preservation policy exists in the plan. He replied
that as much as possible would be done to maintain the
railroad and that the RR right-of-way would be preserved.
If she was interested in lobbying for rail transit
Commuter Rail Service in Tacoma could be contacted to try
and get service to Olympia. He also stated that
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
commercial development in the city center is encouraged
in the plan. Development along the alternate routes would
not be encouraged.. Although it is directly addressed in
the Transportation Plan it is up to the Planning
Commission and Cit~y Council to make sure that this intent
is included in the Comprehensive Transportation Plan.
Roy Gibson - questioned the Y-7 connector. He stated
that he repeatedly heard that Berry Valley Road would not
be affected, that~ the road would go up Longmire or on
Henry Dragt' s property. He stated that he had apparently
been left off mailing lists and was informed by his
neighbors of plans for Berry Valley Road. The proposed
road would take part of his front yard and destroy the
character of the Berry Valley Road community. Gibson
identified himself as the initiator of a petition from
Berry Valley Road residents opposed to the planned Y-7
connector and stated that all but 1 or 2 Berry Valley
Road residents were opposed to the plan. He suggested
that the Y-7 connector follow Longmire and not be allowed
to destroy the Berry Valley Road community. He felt
those that will benefit from the road should pay for it
and have it go through their neighborhoods. He advised
that the Berry Valley Road residents will do all they can
to stop the road.
Faye Myers - ask.ed if a left turn lane on Yelm Avenue
would run all the way through Yelm, and if so how room
would be found for this turn lane? Hazlett replied that
it would run from 93rd to Five Corners, and that signals
would be added at Edwards, Third Street and at the
Jayhawks Shopping Center. He stated that some trees
would be removed along Yelm Avenue but that there was
adequate room from 93rd to Five Corners within the
existing right-of-way.
Margaret Clapp - asked if improvements would be included.
Hazlett replied that the plan recommended that it be
upgraded, the design report will determine how.
Don Miller - sta'ted that the improvements would take two
years to do as a state project. Hazlett expanded and
said that it was not funded the state 93-95 budget.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
Rosemary Demich - asked if it was possible for the bypass
to include green zone areas. Hazlett responded that the
public could recommend a lot of things, but that the
introduction of greenery etc. adds to the overall cost of
the project.
Stamm informed Commission members of recommended changes
to the Transportation Plan in his memo which was included
in their packets. Stamm informed audience that the City
Council would hold a Hearing at 7:30 p.m. on June 24th on
TIP funding to address what funds will be requested in
this years proposal. The City will try to be consistent
with the goals of the Transportation Plan.
Tim Schlosser asked if adoption of the Transportation
Plan would lock in the priority of funding and disallow
alternatives? Stamm explained that reasonable funding
sources are required but that alternatives may be
selected. State dictates that we must permit growth as
per the Office of Financial Management. Yelm must accept
and plan for 10,000 additional people, if money isn't
available traffic targets will have to be set lower. The
City is planning for 14,000.
Roy Gibson - stated that everyone hated slow traffic and
that it will get even slower. He questioned if 4 miles
per hour was worth $40 million. Is it worth the detriment
of the community as a whole?
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Those in the audience were thanked by Schlosser for their
participation and comments. Public Hearing closed at
5:30 p.m.
MOTION TOM GORMAN, SECONDED JOHN KINNEE THAT THE
COMMISSION RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THIS DOCUMENT AS
THE COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN INCLUDING THE
RECOMMENDED CHANGES INDICATED IN STAMM'S STAFF MEMO OF
6/15/92, AND THAT ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS BE FORWARDED TO
COUNCIL. MOTION CARRIED.
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Mountaineer Court Preliminary Plat. A request to
subdivide 1.59 acres east of Crystal Springs Road into 6
lots in single-family zoning. Site was platted into
three lots (plus lot to the east) by short subdivision
8030. The site had originally been approved for four
lots. Staff report summarized by Stamm.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
Leo Lefebvre - questioned the effect on the value of
existing industrial property if rezones from industrial
to residential in the area continue.
Schlosser noted that the agenda included two rezones and
a subdivision request in the same area and recommended
looking at the area as a whole instead of trying to deal
with it in a piece-by-piece fashion.
Stamm suggested a public hearing notice for all Crystal
Springs Street. He also stated that buffering to the east
should be addressed at the same time and that he would
need to know if the Commission wanted the public hearing
for next month's meeting so notices could be sent out.
If not scheduled for the next regular meeting there could
be a problem with the City Council being able to
responding to the applicants in the required 90 days.
Commission members stated that they wanted to deal with
the issue at the next regular meeting, July 21, 1992.
Mark Carpenter - stated that he was
anything that was not already allowed.
unfair to be held back for an issue that
zoning on his property.
not asking for
He felt it was
won't change the
Schlosser stated that it was not the intent of the
Commission to inconvenience him or delay his project,
however, his request to increase the housing density does
directly impact the surrounding industrial zone and as
the additional homes could not be built until the sewer
was in place the Commission could best deal with all of
the Crystal Springs issues together.
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MOTION JOHN KINNEE, SECONDED GEORGE KNIGHT THAT ALL
PRELIMINARY PLATS AND ZONE CHANGE REQUESTS IN THE CRYSTAL
SPRINGS STREET AREA BE PLACED ON HOLD UNTIL THE YELM
PLANNING COMMISSION DETERMINES THE DIRECTION CRYSTAL
SPRINGS ST. ZONING SHOULD GO, THIS INCLUDES THE
MOUNTAINEER COURT PRELIMINARY PLAT REQUEST. MOTION
CARRIED.
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Crystal Springs Estates Preliminary Plat and Rezone.
Request to change zoning from industrial to residential
on approximately 5 acres on Crystal Springs St. and
subdivide into 20 lots. Staff report summarized by
Stamm.
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Agenda Item/
Motion No.
Chair requested all speakers
Public Hearing Opened 6:05 PM.
identify themselves.
Harry Lewis - stated that he had tried for 20 years to
sell the property as industrial and had not been
successful. Lewis said he had at an earlier time
questioned neighbors in the area and they strongly
preferred the area to be zoned residential. Lewis stated
that he would like to be able to utilize his property.
Longmire questioned the use of Lewis' former home as a
buffer and questioned the road running through the
proposed subdivision to that site. Lewis replied that
the surveyor had recommended the access but that it could
be closed.
Knight noted that the size and number of lots would have
to be reduced to accommodate a buffer and to increase
panhandle lot access to the required 20'.
Harry Lewis explained that the size and number of lots
was an attempt to keep the cost of the lots affordable.
Leo Lefebvre - questioned what a possible rezone would do
to Rhoton Road and Central Reddi-Mix.
Schlosser explained that members want to try and protect
the industrial area as it exists but that probably 75% of
Crystal Springs is now residential creating an industrial
island on Crystal Springs Street. Logic says that all of
Crystal Springs will eventually become residential. The
Rhoton Road Industrial area needs to be protected from
development. Buffers to the east of Crystal Springs St
will be needed for industrial area protection.
Leo Lefebvre stated that increased residential
development will result in complaints about the noise.
Schlosser acknowledged and said that if the Industrial on
Rhoton Road was protected home buyers would be made aware
of the situation and would have to accept it.
Leo Lefebvre - stated that he believed that residents
would still complain about the noise.
Margaret Clapp - stated that some areas are writing into
legal documents that these special circumstances exist.
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Motion No.
Public Hearing closed at 6:18 p.m.
Schlosser stated that he believed that the Commission
should consider the rezone of Crystal Springs from
Coates/Stevens to the end of the Crystal Springs St.
industrial area. He felt that no more piece-meal
activity should be done.
Stamm informed members that piece-meal changes would be
allowed under the current laws. However, under Growth
Management the zoning would have to be consistent with
the Comprehensive Plan and the Plan could be changed only
once per year.
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MOTION BY JOHN KINNEE, SECONDED GEORGE KNIGHT THAT ALL
CRYSTAL SPRINGS STREET AREA PLAT AND REZONE REQUESTS BE
TABLED UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING WHICH WILL INCLUDE A PUBLIC
HEARING ON CRYSTAL SPRINGS STREET ZONING AND THAT NOTICE
OF THE JULY 21, 1992 PUBLIC HEARING BE PUBLISHED. MOTION
CARRIED.
The July work session will include an examination of this
subject.
John Kinnee, Roberta Longmire and Tom Gorman left the
meeting.
8. prairie Park RV Park Special Use Zoning. The City has
received one letter in support of this project and one,
from a neighbor expressing concerns about the project.
The Commission must determine if this use is appropriate
and if so set standards. Permit would expire in 1 year
if not used. Staff report summarized by Stamm.
Public Hearing opened at 6:30 p.m.
Margaret Clapp stated that she wanted to build a 19 unit
motel and office building. She has also planned to
provide space for Recreational Vehicles with hookups for
power, water and possibly cable TV. Stays would be short
term. She would not want this considered as a
alternative place to live and would probably charge a per
night fee as well as using other tools to help eliminate
long stays.
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Motion No.
Joe Huddleston questioned amount of land planned for the
above stated uses and total amount available. Clapp
replied that a land area of 3 +/- acres was being used
for the project and that she had a total of 16 acres
available but didn't have firm plans for the remainder of
the property.
Faye Myers - said she objected to the positioning of the
RV's directly behind her home. She feels that the whole
way of life for her family would be impacted by this and
suggested that the drainfield and RV area be switched.
Tim Schlosser questioned the use of screening, fencing
and landscaping and asked where the Myers would like to
see these items.
Faye Myers felt that the screening, fencing and
landscaping would be helpful for the RV' s but that people
in RV's didn't think about the effect they have on local
residents in areas they visited and that the noise from
semi-trucks would still be a problem.
Margaret Clapp - said that the layout was determined by
soil surveys and because sewer hook-up access is believed
to be along 103rd. Also it was a level area.
Commission pointed out possible problem with semi-trucks
driving through the site between the motel and office
building to reach the parking site and questioned the
possibility of reversing the drainfield and RV area.
Jim Myers - questioned the amount of increased traffic
volume and maneuverability of semi-trucks and RVs.
Public Hearing closed at 6:45 p.m.
Schlosser questioned the length of stays allowed for RV
guests. Clapp stated that she felt comfortable limiting
stays to two weeks. She would however like to have the
leeway to allow longer stays for special circumstances.
Schlosser indicated that he would like Clapp and Myers
to discuss the situation directly, as there had not yet
been any discussion between the two parties.
Clapp stated that she was willing to forgo the semi-
trucks and discuss the matter with the Myers.
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Motion No.
92-21
MOTION BY JIM BROWN, SECONDED JOE HUDDLESTON THAT
COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH PROPER SCREENING AND
THE ELIMINATION OF SEMI-TRUCK PARKING AND WITH THE
PLANNING COMMISSION RETAINING APPROVAL OF FINAL
SCREENING. MOTION CARRIED.
All remaining agenda items postponed until the next
regular meeting.
Meeting adjourned 6:55 p.m.
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AGENDA
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, JUNE 16, 1992
4:00 P.M., YELM CITY HALL
1. Call to Order, Roll Call, Approval of Minutes. (May 19, 1992,
regular meeting and June 2, 1992, worksession minutes
enclosed. )
2. Subdivision Ordinance - Council communication regarding final
plat review. (Staff briefing.)
3.
Emanuel Lutheran Church
Recommendation to Council.
Alley Vacation (VCT-8057)
(Staff report enclosed.)
Mountaineer Court Preliminary Plat (SUB-8054) - Recommendation
to Council. (Staff report enclosed.)
Crystal Springs Estates Rezone (ZON-8055) - PUBLIC HEARING -
Recommendation to Council. (Staff report enclosed.)
Crystal Springs Estates Preliminary Plat (SUB-8056) - PUBLIC
HEARING - Recommendation to Council. (Staff report enclosed.)
Kitchen Rezone (ZON-8047) - PUBLIC HEARING - Recommendation to
Council. (Staff report enclosed.)
Prairie R.V. Park Special Use Zoning (SUP-8043) - PUBLIC
HEARING - Recommendation to Council. (Staff report enclosed. )
Yelm Growth Management Transportation Plan - PUBLIC HEARING -
Recommendation to Council. )Transportation Advisory Committee
recommended draft enclosed.}
Enclosures available to non-Commission members upon request.
If you need special arrangements to attend or participate in this
meeting, please contact Shelly Badger at 458-4244.
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WORK SESSIONS
August 4, 1992
September 1, 1992
October 6, 1992
November 3, 1992
December 1, 1992
REGULAR MEETINGS
August 18, 1992
September 15, 1992
October 20, 1992
November 17, 1992
December 15, 1992
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION
JUNE 2, 1992
The meeting was called to order at 4:05 p.m. by Chair Tim
Schlosser.
Members Present: Roberta Longmire, Tim Schlosser, Tom Cundy, Joe
Huddleston and George Knight. John Kinnee and Tom Gorman were
unable to attend. Absent: Jim Brown. Guests: Lyle Burstad and
Bob Hazlett, Yelm Transportation Committee, Fred Tharp, Martha
Parsons and staff members Todd Stamm and Agnes Colombo.
Stamm explained the need for an addition concerning open space and
park standards and model home provisions to the adopted Yelm
Subdivision Ordinance.
Urban Growth Area Proposal - continued discussion.
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Stamm pointed out four reserve areas on the UGA map. a) Four
corners (cutoff at the railroad tracks); b) Canal to River (east
of city limits) which is waterfront property; and c) Canal to
River (north). These areas are recommended as reserve but would
probably be part of the city someday.
Thompson Creek Valley and the north slope of Hammersmith Hill would
form the periphery of the UGA and would be best be left as low I
density zoning. Stamm suggested that consideration of the sale of
development rights for this area be considered.
Discussion on the sale of development rights resulted in the
members feeling uncomfortable with the concept and wanting time to
consider the long and short term effects of such action.
Copies of the first draft of the transportation plan were
distributed. Bob Hazlett explained that four goals Coordination,
Standards and Capacity, Land Use and Transportation Planning and
Priorities and Finance had been identified and were the foundation
for the plan. He then reviewed the 34 Policies designed to meet
these goals. Draft #2 should be available on Monday.
Stamm advised that the next regular meeting on June 16, 1992, will
include several land-use related public hearings in addition to the
Transportation Plan Public Hearing. Notices have been sent to 200
people. The staff will clear the room as much as possible to make
room for those attending. If a large number of people attend and
wish to speak a time limit would have to apply to speakers. Lyle
Burstad explained that the Transportation Committee will meet prior
to the public hearing and members should feel free to call with
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Urban Growth Area Proposal - Ccn~inued Discusslon
2 Proposed TransportatlDn Plan IcoDies available upon request)
_ Staff Briefinc - Preoarati()n tor Pub!~c Hearina on .June 16
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meetlng olease contact Shell Badaer CltJ rler~ (458-3244)
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Motion No.
1. The rreeting was called to order at 4: 05 by Chair Tim Schlosser.
Members present: Tim Schlosser, Roberta Longmire, Tom Cundy, George
Knight, Jim Keyes and Jim Brown. Absent: John Kinnee. Joe
Huddleston and Tom Gorman were not able to attend the rreeting as they
were out of town. Guests: Diane Upton, Brad Barrett, Brad Barrett
Construction, Margaret Clapp, Ye~ Prairie Developrrent Company, Andy
Haapala, Frontier Village and staff members Todd Starrm and Shelly
Badger.
Minutes of the April 21, 1992 regular meeting and May 5, 1992 (Agenda
Item #1, Section 3(b) amended to state "Members were in favor of re-
quiring speakers wishing to give testimony to identify their name and
address in writing on the sign-in sheet) worksession were approved as
amended. Agenda was approved with a change in format.
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4. UP'ION HOME OCCUPATION. Starrm stated that Ye~ Municipal Code re-
quires the Planning Commission to advise the City Clerk on issuance
of Horre Occupation Permits. Request submitted by Diane Upton to op-
erate a Beauty Salon out of her home at 406 Edwards Street. After
staff review of request, recommendation is to advise approval to City
Clerk of the request to operate a Beauty Salon at 406 Edwards Street,
which is zoned Industrial.
92-12 BECAUSE THE REQUEST CONFORMS 'IO CHAP'IER 5.44 OF THE YEIM MUNICIPAL
CODE, INCLUDING PARKING REQUIREMENTS, ROBERTA IDNGMIRE MOVED 'IO AD-
VISE THE CITY CLERK 'IO ISSUE A HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT 'IO DIANE UP'ION
'IO OPERA'IE A BEAUTY SALON AT 406 EDWARDS ST. NW, SECOND BY JIM BRCJtJN.
CARRIED.
5. BARRE'IT VARIANCE PUBLIC HEARING. Hearing opened at 4: 10 PM. Commit-
tee Members were presented with a staff report from Todd Starrm re-
garding the request from Brad Barrett Construction Company, in an-
ticipation of annexation, for a variance to permit construction of a
commercial building with zero-setback from the Burlington Northern
railroad right-of-way along SR 507 instead of standard 30-foot rear
yard.
Staff informed the Commission that variances may only be granted upon
finding that strict application of ordinary standard would deprive a
property owner of rights enjoyed by other properties in the vicinity
and in an identical zone classification. Variance to approximately
five feet has been granted for similarly situated property across
Mosman Street. Staff recommends that if zero-setback is granted,
written confirmation of no objection from Burlington Northern be ob-
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19, 1992 and they had no objection to the variance request. BN will
send a letter to Yelm stating their approval. PH closed 4 :22 fM.
92-13 MOrrON BY ROBERTA LONGMIRE 'TO RECCMMEND APPROVAL 'TO THE YELM CITY
COUNCIL TI-IAT WHEN ANNEXED, A VARIANCE BE GRANTED 'TO BRAD BARRE 'IT CON-
STRUCTION CO. 'TO PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF A CCMMERCIAL BUILDING WI'IH A
ZERO SE'IBACK FRCM THE RAILROAD RIQ-lT-OF-WAY FDR PROPERTY LOCATED SW
OF MOSMAN STREET BE'IWEEN SR 507 AND BN RAILROAD, SUBJECT TO, ALLOWING
BURLINGTON NORTHERN RAILROAD THE OPPORTUNITY 'ID COMMENT, IN WRITING,
BY JUNE 10, 1992. SECOND BY JIM KEYES. CARRIED.
6. PRAIRIE RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK/SPECIAL USE PERMIT - DESIGN CON-
TENT. Staff informed the Corrmission that Margaret Clapp has re-
quested a "conditional" use permit for a recreational vehicle park to
be developed and operated in conjunction with a new motel and office
building at 103rd and West Road. Under the City's code this use is a
"special" use in the Comnercial (C-1) zone. This use is subject to a
public hearing before the Commission. Stamm advised the Commission
that their task is to describe what information will be needed for
the Commission to prepare a recommendation. He reminded the Commis-
sion that this is not a public hearing and that they should not dis-
cuss the pros and cons of the development or permit the applicant to
advocate approval.
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site
2. RV stay time limitations
3. Exact location of sites
2. ZONING HEARIN:; PROCESS PUBLIC HEARING. Opened at 4:45 PM. Stamm
stated that the current Zoning Ordinance calls for a public hearing
on zoning issues before both the Planning Commission and City Coun-
cil. State statute requires a hearing only of the Planning Commis-
sion, with a 'hearing before the City Council optional. Public Hear-
ing closed at 4: 52 fM. Planning Commission had no objection to an
amendment to the Yelm Zoning Ordinance to comply with state statute
as described above.
3. HEARING PROCEDURES RESOLUTION. Stamm stated that the revised draft
reflects changes made by the Commission at the May 5, 1992
worksession. The Corrmission added to Section 3, B(4), "Require every
person wishing to testify at the hearing to be identified for the re-
cord by written name and address".
92-14 ROBERTA LONGMIRE MOVED 'TO ADOPT THE "YELM PLANNING CCMMISSION rAND
USE AND DEVELOPMENT HEARING PROCEDURES", SECOND BY 'RM CUNDY. CAR-
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Meeting adjourned at 5:00 PM.
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AGENDA
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, MAY 19, 1992
4:00 PM, YELM CITY HALL
1 Call to Order, Roll Call, Approval of Minutes:
Apr i 1 21 > 1992 regu 1 ar meet i ng and May 5, 1992 worksess ion
2 Zoning Hearing Process - Public Hearing - Recommendation to
Counc i 1
3 Hearing Procedures - Resolution (Draft Enclosed)
4 Upton Home Occupation (Request Enclosed)
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Barrett Variance - Public Hearing - Recommendation to
Council (Staff Report Enclosed)
6 Prairie Recreational Vehicle Park/Special Use Permit -
Design content - Recommendation to Applicant
Enclosures available to non-Commission members upon request
1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
WORK SESSIONS
REGULAR MEETINGS
June 2, 1992
July 7, 1992
August 4, 1992
September 1, 1992
October 6, 1992
November 3, 1992
December 1, 1992
May 19, 1992
June 16, 1992
July 21, 1992
August 18, 1992
September 15, 1992
October 20, 1992
November 17, 1992
December 15, 1992
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, MAY 19, 1992
4.00 PM, YELM CITY HALL
1 Call to Order, Roll Call, Approval of Minutes:
Apri 1 21, 1992 regular meeting and May 5, 1992 wor~sesslon
2 Zoning Hearing Process - Public Hearing - Recommendation to
Counc i 1
3 Hearing Procedures - Resolution (Draft Enclosed)
4 Upton Home Occupation (Request Enclosed)
5 Barrett Variance - Public Hearing - Recommendation to
Council (Staff Report Enclosed)
6 Prairie Recreational Vehicle Park/Special Use Permit -
Design content - Recommendation to Applicant
Enclosures available to non-Commission members upon request
1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
WORK SESSIONS
REGULAR MEETINGS
June 2, 1992
July 7, 1992
August 4, 1992
September 1, 1992
October 6, 1992
November 3, 1992
December 1, 1992
May 19, 1992
June 16, 1992
July 21 1992
Augus t 18, 1992
September 15, 1992
October 20, 1992
November 17, 1992
December 15, 1992
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TUESDAY, MAY 5, 1992
Members Present: Tim Schlosser, Roberta Longmire, Joe Huddleston,
Tom Gorman, Jim Brown, John K i nnee , Jim Keyes and Tom Cundy
Absent. George Knight Staff. Todd Stamm and Agnes Colombo
Meeting opened 4:05 p m
Joe Huddleston and Tom Gorman informed members that they would be
unable to attend the May 19 meeting
Agenda Item #1
Stamm briefed members on the reasons for establishing a Hearing
Procedures Resolution Members reviewed a sample Hearing
Procedures Resolution page by page
Section 3
A Members agreed that when no objections are anticipated,
allowing Commission recommendation to the Council with less
than a quorum would allow the petitioner's request to be
processed in a timely manner Action would not be final until
a formal motion on the recommendation was made
B Members discussed and decided against the use of sign-in
sheets unless they clearly indicated that signing was
,~ voluntary and/or that it was for adding names of interested *'
~ parties to related mailing lists Members were in favor of~~~
requiring speakers wishing to give testimony to identifYCc-e-e",ct-e-o
themselves and S"S-s.t..e their address/A) a);(l//,?, t1~ a-.,jit.J-A'd"h..e'=. IiJ.JVuU:'$
Section 4
D Stamm explained that the staff could provide the Chair with a
'script' outlining the proposal and purpose of the hearing
Section 8
Alternates would be permitted only in the event of disqualification
due to an appearance of unfairness
Section 9
Members felt Chair Tim Schlosser should be authorized to sign for
the Commission
Section 10
Member s discussed appearance of fa i rness and/ or 'undue
influence In such circumstances the individual member must leave
the room If information is needed from the individual a staff
member could carry information between the two If there is any
reason for people to think you might not be able to judge the issue
fairly you should disqualify yourself
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Members discussed and agreed that notification of the need for a
site view on the upcoming meetings agenda would allow members the
opportunity to visit the site in question prior to the meeting
Agenda Item #2
stamm discussed upcoming deadlines for an agreement with Thurston
County and for the Env i ronmenta 1 Assessment for the UGA, wh i ch
covers 11-12 square miles, and is due in June Also discussed were
proposed transferrable development areas, wipeout" and 'windfall
avoidance which would allow the purchase by property owners inside
the UGA, from property owners on the fringe of the UGA boundary of
rights to develop at a higher density
Some areas of special consideration identified in
4 Corners, and the area across the canal which
allow possible annexation if the City was forced
service to the area due to water contamination
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to supply sewer
The pond on Mill Rd was identified as potential park property and
the use of light industrial as a buffer for the residential areas
on Crystal Sprlngs st was discussed
Stamm asked for suggestions for possible uses for the property at
Wilkensen/Canal and the RR tracks/Canal It is located on the edge
of industrial but not really suitable for industrial Potential
purchasers are looking at town houses/multi-family for that area
Should restrictions be developed and apply to commercial areas? Do
we want to force bUilding up to avoid sprawl?
Worksession adjourned at 5 45 p m
1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
WORK SESSIONS
COMMISSION MEETINGS
June 2 1992
July 7, 1992
August 4, 1992
September 1, 1992
October 6, 1992
November 3 1992
December 1, 1992
May 19, 1992
June 16, 1992
July 21, 1992
August 18, 1992
September 15, 1992
October 20, 1992
November 17, 1992
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APRIL 21, 1992
Agenda Item/
Motion No
1 The meeting was called to order at 4.05 p m by Chair Tim
Schlosser
Members Present. Tim Schlosser Tom Gorman, Jim Brown
Joe Huddleston Jim Keyes joined the meeting at 4.55
Absent Tom Cundy Rober ta Longm ire, John K i nnee and
George Kn i ght Sta f f Present: Todd Stamm and Agnes
Colombo Guests. David Asher and Counci lmen Arnold
Drogseth and Don Miller
As a quorum was not present the meeting moved ahead to
the scheduled Public Hearings
2 Public Hearing on the proposed West Road Zoning
Correction was opened at 4:06 p m
Stamm summarized his staff report by stating
records/conversations indicate that an error in mapping
had occurred; the area in question should have been zoned
residential not commercial Additionally, an annexation
in the same area had occurred bringing in property under
5 acre county zoning and needed to be addressed Records
indicated that the intent had been for residential zoning
but the Ordinance did not state this fact The
Commission would determine intent and recommend City
Counc i 1 act i on to change zon i ng maps and the
Comprehensive Plan if appropriate
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The Chair opened the floor for public comment As no
comment was made, Joe Huddleston requested an opinion of
those present Don Mi ller and Arnold Drogseth were
agreeable to either zone David Asher stated that he was
in favor of a change to res i dent i a 1 zon i ng since the
chnge is needed for a pending short plat Stamm
explained that multi-family zoning is not supported by
the record
Public Hearing Closed at 4.15 p m
Arnold Drogseth and Don Miller left the meeting
4 Public Hearing on the Slopak Annexation and C-1 Zoning
(No 8041) was opened at 4:17 p m
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Stamm recommended that the petition be expanded to
include the three lots adjacent to the marked parcel, one
of which includes Mosman Street from the railroad to the
highway, as well as the triangular shaped property to the
southwest along SR 507
Public Hearing closed at 4 25 p m
4 Publ ic Hearing on the Yelm Comprehensive Subdivision
Ordinance was opened at 4.25 p m
Stamm informed members that Draft #2 had been sent to 6
or 8 eng i neer s for the i r input No response had been
received but comments could still be made at the City
Council's Public Hearing
Stamm recommended a change from 'de novo' appeal, in the
General Provisions Section of Chapter 1, to appeal under
appellate rules (based on the record) Members agreed
wi th the recommended change Stamm wi 11 change for
Council draft
Arnold Drogseth rejoined the meeting
Cha i r reques ted pub 1 i c comment Dav i dAsher i nqu ired
about the makeup of the City Council which is comprised
of elected officials and of the Planning Commission whose
members are appointed to their positions
Public Hearing closed at 4:30 p m
5 Stamm advised that Jim Kitchen would be submitting a
request to amend the comprehens i ve plan, zon i ng and
shore 1 i ne des i gna t i on of proper ty 1 oca ted on Crysta 1
Springs St NW The request would be for a change to R-1
zoning and a suburban shorel ine which would allow a 5 000
sq ft lot or a lot size as determined by zoning,
whichever is more restrictive This issue will be before
the Commission in the near future
6 stamm advised members that Margaret Clapp had submitted
plans for a motel and a 20 site RV park in the vicinity
of West Rd and 103rd The latter issue wi 11 also be
before the Commission in the near future Members
questioned determination and enforcement of occupancy
time 1 imits for the RV park Stamm will look into the matter
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7 Stamm advised that a Development Project Site View would
be on the 5/5/92 Worksession Agenda Members would need
to decide if site inspection should be done by the entire
Commission or by a sub-committee
8 Members discussed possibility of a Commission liaison,
preferably not the Commission Chair, to attend and give
input at City Council meetings
9 Members discussed the recent Transportation Public
Hearing The general feeling was that those attending
concurred with the need for additional and improved
routes to move traffic While not all were happy with
the effects the proposed alternatives could have on
their neighborhoods those in attendance seemed to be
willing to accept the possible changes
Jim Keyes joined the meeting at 4:55 pm, quorum
requirements were met
Keyes was briefed on the Public Hearings
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MOTION TOM GORMAN SECONDED JOE HUDDLESTON THAT
COMMISSION RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE WEST ROAD
ZONING CORRECTION AND THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BE
AMENDED TO REFLECT THE CHANGE CARRIED
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MOTION JIM KEYES, SECONDED TOM GORMAN THAT RECOMMENDATION
TO COUNCIL ON SLOPAK ANNEXATION BE TO ALLOW THE
ANNEXATION TO PROCEED AND THAT THE ADJOINING 3 LOTS BE
INCLUDED AS WELL AS TRIANGULAR LOT ALONG SR 507, IF THAT
PROPERTY OWNER AGREES MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION JOE HUDDLESTON, SECONDED TOM GORMAN THAT
COMMISSION RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL OF DRAFT #3 OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, INCLUDING
WORKSESSION AND APPEAL PROCESS CHANGES MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION JOE HUDDLESTON SECONDED JIM BROWN TO APPROVE
MARCH 17, 1992 MINUTES INCLUDING A CORRECTION TO MOTION
92-6 AND 92-7 BY CHANGING JOHN TO JOE IN BOTH MOTION
CARRIED
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WEST ROAD ZONING CORRECTION (ZON8048)
STAFF REPORT
Apri 1 14, 1992
BackQround
The City of Yelm proposes to correct the zoning of approximately
eleven acres along West Road
Basic Facts
Proponent: City of Yelm
C Proposal~ Change zoning of Asher short plat from residential
agriculture (5 acre) to single family residential; and
change zoning of residential lots south of West Road from
Asher short plat from Commercial C-1 to single family
residential zoning
Public Notice: Hearing advertised in Nisqually Valley News and
notice mailed to owners of record within 300 feet
Location. Asher short subdivision and tax parcels 37-00201, 02,04
and 05 all located along West Road
Comprehensive Plan Designation: North of road - residential
agriculture; south of road - potential commercial
Land Use: Site is single-family residential, commercial to south,
residential to west, and rural residential to north and
east
Shoreline: 200' along Yelm Creek designated as "urban ..
Critical Areas: Extremely sensitive aquifer, site includes
wetlands along Yelm Creek
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Applicable Standards and Policies
State Law: Zoning must be consistent with comprehensive plan -
RCW 36 70A 120
Comprehensive Plan: Areas zoned RA should be rezoned to a
residential classification as subdivision occurs" (p 20)
Commercial development should occur in locations with major
arterial access (p 22)
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Yelm Municipal Code. Purpose of single family zone is to be a low
density residential area protected as to its residential
quality, values and amenities so as to conform to the system
of services available and to provide for such community
facilities as will enhance the residential quality of the
area
Staff Analysis
This proposal is presented by the City for two reason: failure to
zone the Asher short plat upon annexation, and failure of recent
zoning map update to correct alleged error in prior official"
map
The content of the annexation ordinance of the Asher short plat
reflects and intent to place this property in single-family
zoning The city administrator recalls discussions consistent
with this intent However, no hearings were held nor did the
ordinance actually implement this intent The comprehensive plan
still designates this area as Residential Agriculture, although
the yet-to-be-adopted joint plan includes a single-family
designation If the site is to rezoned, the comprehensive plan
should be amended accordingly
The properties south of West Road were outside of the commercial
~ zone as originally described in Yelm's zoning ordinance The
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ordinance annexing this property reflected no change in intent
However, possibly due to comprehensive plan designation as
"potential commercial" these lots were shown as "commercial' on
the Official Zoning Map The recently adopted update carried
over this designation
The Commission must decide which is the intended and appropriate
zoning of each set of properties
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206-458-3244
AGENDA
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, APRIL 21, 1992
4:00 P.M., YELM CITY HALL
1 Call to Order, Roll Call, Approval of Minutes: March 17, 1992
regular meeting and April 7, 1992 work session
2. West Road Zoning Correction - Public Hearing and Recommendation
to Council. Staff Report Enclosed
3 Slopak Annexation (Annex. No. 8041) and Zoning - Public Hearing
and Recommendation to Council. Staff Report Enclosed
4 Yelm Comprehensive Subdivision Ordinance - Public Hearing and
Recommendation to Council.
5 Kitchen Comprehensive Plan Amendment and Zone Change (Zon. No.
8047) Staff Briefing
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Prairie Park - RV Park (Cup No. 8043). Staff Briefing.
7 Development Project Site View - Discussion of Procedure.
8. City Council Liaison - Discussion.
9 Other Projects and Permits - Staff Briefing.
Enclosures available to non-Commission members upon request
1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
WORK SESSIONS COMMISSION MEETINGS
APRIL 21, 1992
MAY 5, 1992
JUNE 2, 1992
JULY 7, 1992
AUGUST 4, 1992
SEPTEMBER 1, 1992
OCTOBER 6, 1992
NOVEMBER 3, 1992
DECEMBER 1, 1992
MA Y 1 9, 1 992
JUNE 16, 1992
JULY 21, 1992
AUGUST 18, 1992
SEPTEMBER 15, 1992
OCTOBER 20, 1992
NOVEMBER 17, 1992
DECEMBER 15, 1992
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APRIL 21, 1992
SUMMARY
Call to order and review of minutes of prlor meeting
Public hearing and recommendation to City Council
regarding City initiated change in zoning of two sets
of property totalling about ten acres along West Road
Asher short plat erroneously annexed as Residential
Agriculture - 5 acre; and residential lots south of
West Road erroneously zoned Commercial Both areas
proposed for single-family residential zoning
Public hearing and recommendation to Council regarding
annexation and commercial (C-1) zoning proposed by Jim
Slopak for about 3/4 acre north of Highway 507 between
highway and railroad
Public hearing and recommendation to the Council
regarding proposed Comprehensive Subdivision
Ordinance" for the City
Briefing by the staff regarding residential zone change
and shoreline amendment proposed by James Kitchen for
about two acres west of Crystal Springs Road and north
of Yelm Creek
Briefing by the staff regarding 20-space recreational
vehicle park proposed by Yelm Prairie Development
Company (Margaret Clapp) in conjunction with planned
motel and offices
Discussion of Commission process for viewing proposed
development sites
Discussion of City Council request that Commission
select one or more liaisons to attend Council meetings
Briefing by the staff regarding other projects being
reviewed or permits issued by the City
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City of YellD
105 Yelm Avenue West
POBox 479
Yelm, Washington 98597
206-458-3244
AGENDA
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, APRIL 7, 1992
4.00 P.M , YELM CITY HALL
1 Subdivision Ordinance - Review of Draft #2 (Enclosed)
2 Yelm Transportation Plan - Review of Future Land Use Projections
(Staff Presentation)
Enclosures available to non-Commission members upon request
1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
WORK SESSIONS COMMISSION MEETINGS
APRIL 7, 1992
MA Y 5 l 1 992
JUNE 2, 1992
JU L Y 7, 1 992
AUGUST 4, 1992
SEPTEMBER 1, 1992
OCTOBER 6, 1992
NOVEMBER 3, 1992
APRIL 21, 1992
MA Y 1 9, 1 992
JUNE 16, 1992
JU L Y 2 1, 1 992
AUGUST 18. 1992
SEPTEMBER 15, 1992
OCTOBER 20, lS92
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TUESDAY, APRIL 7, 1992
WORK SESSION:
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Proposed Subdivision Ordinance - Draft #2
Yelm Transportation Plan
Members Present: Tim Schlosser, George Knight, Tom Gorman, Jim
Keyes and Jim Brown Absent: Tom Cundy, Joe Huddleston and
Roberta Longmire Staff Present: Todd Stamm and Agnes Colombo
Members reviewed the Proposed Subdivision Ordinance-Draft #2
Marked paragraphs on Pages 9, 12, 18, 20, 21, 24, 29 and 32 were
discussed Commission recommended changes included:
Pg 9, marked paragraph,
A grading plan for any cuts and/or fills collectively exceeding
fifty (50) one hundred (100) cubic yards, exclusive of cuts and
fills solely for streets or utilities Such plan shall include
the extent and nature of proposed cuts and fills and information
on the character of the soil and underlying geology
Pg 22, Dead-End Streets to be added to definition section
Public Hearing on the Proposed Subdivision Ordinance will be held
at April 21 meeting
Stamm explained that Skillings and Chamberlain is working on two
point approach transportation model based on existing
employers/housing The model will include a plan to deal with
immediate needs as well as a long term plan based on 20 year
projections
Stamm reminded everyone that the proposed transportation plan
would be presented at a public workshop on Tuesday, April 14 from
6:30-9.00 p m at the Yelm High School Little Theater
Transportation Area Zone (TAZ) figures, based on 1990 Census
figures were reviewed Of the 19 areas reviewed the count for
areas #1, 2, and 14 needed to be checked for accuracy
Work session Adjourned 5:40 pm
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Meeting opened at 4'07 by Chair Tim Schlosser
Members Present: Jim Keyes, Tim Schlosser, Lyle
Sundsmo, John Kinnee, Tom Gorman, Roberta Longmire a~d
Joe Huddleston. Absent. James Brown and Tom Cundy.
Staff Present Todd Stamm and Agnes Colombo
The agenda lineup was changed as follows:
# 3 Slopak Annexation
# 4 Lewis Boundary Line Adjustment
# 5 Asher Short Plat
# 6 Milton correspondence/request
# 7 Calendar of upcoming meetings
# 8 Proposed Subdivision Ordinance
# 9 Proposed Development Fee Schedule
#10 Proposed Zoning Map
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MINUTES AS PRESENTED, SECONDED JOE HUDDLESTON MOTI0N
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annexation paperwork for property running parallel to
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Keyes introduced map showing boundary 1 ine adjustment
being proposed for Harry Lewis' property on Crystal
Spr i ngs St NW Proposa 1 wou Id reduce the size of
existing parcel from 1 acre to 1/2 acre. A home is
situated on the property. Stamm will contact Thurst6n
County Health Department re operational permit.
Members noted no issues other than heal th departme~t
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parcel, with Yelm Creek running across property, intol3
lot s . Hea 1 th Dept has approved parce 1 for 3 1 ot~
Two lots have homes on them at this time, the third 10t
would be added at the back of the property. Tom Gorman
quest ioned standards for access easements Sta~m
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that no city standards exist at this time. Fire Code
minimum requirements must be met. Members express~d
belief that minimum requirements would be adequate fbr
one dwelling; changes would be needed for more than obe
dwelling. I
Letter received from Daniel Milton requesting approv~l
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denied this type of request in the past and witl
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County-wide policies :
City Council, 7:30 pm Will be discussihg
role of Planning Commission under GMA :
Transportation Advisory Committee will
present transportation options, 2:00 Yeim
City Hall :
Transportation Adv Committee to unveil
proposed transportation plan 7'00 YHS Little
Theater
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Review of Proposed Subdivision Ordinance. MembeFs
reviewed the proposed ordinance page by page. When
questioned, Stamm explained that specific standards a~e
traditionally not included in a subdivision ordinance
Standards as in the Comprehensive Plan etc. will J?e
referred to in appropriate areas of the ordinanc$.
Other standards will be addressed in the future This
ordinance deals with land itself, not the structures.
Stamm advised that stormwater standards are beiAg
developed at this time :
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In addi t ion to typographical errors to be corrected,
the following changes were noted: !
Pg 3, para 5 - discussion of ("de novo") review i
Pg 8, para 1 - discussion fixed number of lots ~s
4 or fewer; would el iminate requirement for a publIc
hearing would allow a one step procedure. !
Pg 10, para 10 - eliminate one inch = 1200 feet ~s
option for scale of plat, discussed possibility ~f
qualifying 400 ft scale for large lot only.
Pg 11, para 4 - would provide recorded locations Of
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street lights,
para 10 would be based on the
sight/vision distance at set speed limit, para 14 LI
needs standards set at later date
Pg 13, para 2 - 30 days set as time for
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Pg 16, para 5 - acreage not used on lot s of less
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Pg 17, para 9 - eliminate 1200 feet :
Pg 21, para 5 - Stamm will rewrite paragraph I
Pg 23, para 1 - delete I
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a expand Binding Si te Plan, Commercial to $50/1000
sq ft of add ".stross floor area" I
b delete "or exceptional economic hardship"
c. delete "and variance" I
MOTION BY Jq~ HUDDLESTON THAT COMMISSION RECOMMEND
COUNCIL APPROVAL OF YELM DEVELOPMENT FEE SCHEDULE AS
CORRECTED IN A-C ABOVE SECONDED LYLE SUNDSMO MOTION
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UPDATED ZONING MAP TO CITY COUNCIL. SECONDED J~
HUDDLESTON. MOTION CARRIED.
Zoning Map Stamm presented the
including corrections recommended
session.
Meeting adjourned 5 55 p.m.
UPCOMING MEETINGS
WORK SESSION: APRIL 7, 1992
REGULAR MEETING APRIL 21, 1992
4.00 P.M., COUNCIL CHAMBERS, YELM CITY HALL
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Yelm, Washington 98597
206-458-3244
AGENDA
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, MARCH 17, 1992
4.00 PM., YELM CITY HALL
1 Call to Order, Roll Call and Agenda Confirmation
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Approval of Minutes.
February 18, 1992 (Draft enclosed).
3 Proposed Subdivision Ordinance' Discussion (Draft enclosed)
4.
Proposed Official Zoning Map
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Review and Recommendation to
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Development Fee Schedule' Reivew and Recommendation to Council
(Draft enclosed)
6. Correspondence
a) D Milton - fast food sales out of mobile unit
7 Adjourn.
Enclosures available to non-Commission members upon request.
1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
WORK SESSIONS COMMISSION MEETINGS
APRIL 7, 1992
MA Y 5, 1 992
JUNE 2, 1992
JULY 7, 1992
AUGUST 4, 1992
SEPTEMBER 1, 1992
OCTOBER 6, 1992
NOVEMBER 3, 1992
DECEMBER 1, 1992
MARCH 17, 1992
APRIL 21, 1992
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JUNE 16, 1992
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AUGUST 18, 1992
SEPTEMBER 15, 1992
OCTOBER 20, 1992
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TUESDAY, MARCH 3, 1992
WORK SESSION.
Proposed
1 Official Zoning Map
2. Subdivision Ordinance
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Stamm explained that the draft Platting and Subdivision Ordinance tha~ had
been worked on in the past was structured for counties and was not adapted
to a small city. Stamm will rewrite this draft to produce a more re~dable
document while incorporating state statutes and UGM requirements
Present: Tim Schlosser, Roberta Longmire, George Knight,
James Brown and Joe Hudd I eston Absent. Tom Gorman and Jim
Todd Stamm and Agnes Colombo
Members
Kinnee,
Staff
A staff report distributed to members identified the types of subdivi1sions
that might be realized through procedures set forth in the completed
ordinance
Members agreed that the final document should'
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subdivisions, b) large-lot subdivisions consisting of 4 or Ilfewer
lots each of 5 acres or more; c) boundary line adjustments
Members were in favor of staff responsibility for items 3a-c above
but felt safeguards needed to be built in includirig a
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requirements for response by staff The Commission would expebt to
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Full/major subdivisions, 5 or more lots, at the preliminary :stage
should require automatic public hearings. !
That preliminary plat extensions, initiated by the applicant, be
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That presubmission conferences be an option available to developers
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The Ci ty be protected by ensuring costs of required improvem:ents,
when provided by bond or financial guarantee, be set at aj rate
sufficient to cover inflation, error and administrative costs. i
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Yelm's Zoning Ordinance. Members identified several changes I' that
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Regulate large-lot subdivisions
Formalize Yelm's binding site plan
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
WORK SESSION
TUESDAY, MARCH 3, 1992
4:00 PM., YELM CITY HALL
1 Proposed Official Zoning Map. Copy available for review at Yel
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Staff Report enclosed
Enclosures available to non-Commission members upon request
1992 MEETING SCHEDULE
WORK SESSIONS
COMMISSION MEETINGS
MARCH 3, 1992
APRIL 7, 1992
MA Y 5, 1 992
JUNE 2, 1992
JULY 7, 1992
AUGUST 4, 1992
SEPTEMBER 1, 1992
MARCH 17, 1992
APRIL 21, 1992
MA Y 1 9, 1 992
JUNE 16, 1992
JULY 21, 1992
AUGUST 18, 1992
SEPTEMBER 15, 1992
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STAFF REPORT
PROPOSED YELM SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE
February 24, 1992
This report summarizes the scope and general content of the proposed
new subdivision ordinance for Yelm You should already be in
possession of a copy of the most recent 40-page draft of the ordinarce
which has lain dormant for over one year If not and you wish to
review a copy please contact Agnes at Ci ty Hall The staff is
currently revising this draft and will distribute copies of the pew
draft as soon as they are avai lable To assist the staff in preparjing
this new draft, the Planning Commission will be asked to discuss land
provide directions regarding the issues outlined on page 2 of tlhiS
report
Ordinance Back~round
The state statutes regarding the platting of land authorize citiesl to
enact local standards and procedures for review of subdivisions
These local regulations may apply to
"full" or "major" subdivisions with five or more lots,
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';short" or "minor" subdivisions of two to four lots,
"large-lot" subdivisions with lots of five acres or more,
"boundary line adjustments" (changes in former divisions),
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The state statutes outl ine procedures for obtaining approval Ifor
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subdivisions but do not provide specific development standards iFew'
procedures or standards are establ ished by the state for other t~pes
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The Yelm Municipal Code now appl ies only to short subdivisions land
boundary line adjustments. In addition, Yelm's "site plan revi~ew"
process is similar to the optional "binding site plan" process Ot!her
land divisions are now reviewed under the limited authority of Ithe
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state statutes The proposed ordinance would apply to all types' of
subdivisions and redivisions of land However, as now drafted, the
ordinance would not specifically provide for binding site plans"
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(1) Should Yelm regulate large-lot subdivisions?
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and larger may be exempted firom
would ensure layouts that are
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(2) Should Yelm have a binding site plan option? I
Yelm's site plan review now provides for similar review FormaliZling
these as "binding site plans" would permit developers of certain types
of projects such as mobile home parks or shopping centers to for~go
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(3) Which of the types of subdivisions proposals should be decided! by
the staff? Which by the Planning Commission? Any by a new Bobrd
of Adjustment? Which by the City Council? !
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Of the various types of subdivisions, all but full plats may! be
administratively (staff) approved The preliminary design of flull
subdivisions may also be staff-approved The Planning Commission olr a
Board of Adjustment may also be authorized to perform these duties.i
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(4) For which types of subdivisions and before what bodies sho!uld
public hearings be held? I
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Al though notice to neighboring
hearings are not required
specifically requested)
proper ty owners is
for subdivision
required
approval
These divisions of five-acre lots
local regulation, however review
compatible with future urbanization
(5) Should extraordinary preliminary plat approval extensions be
available?
Preliminary subdivision approval expIres in three years unless a
one-year extension IS requested and granted based upon good fa!i th
efforts to timely file the final plat The City may provide Ifor
additional extensions Grant of an extension permits the subdivi~er
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to avoid the effect of changes in standards subsequent to the original
application
(6) Should "presubmission conferences" with the City staff be
mandatory?
Presubmission conferences are intended to smooth the bureaucratic qoad
by explaining rules and standards to a potential appl icant S!ome
c i ties and count i es requ i re these conferences to ensure that :the
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initial proposal is complete and addresses City conce~ns
Incidentally, this requirement may also prevent a "rush to vest" when
a change in zoning is proposed
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(7) What proportion of the estimated cost of construction shouldl be
required when the subdivider opts to provide financial guarant:ees
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instead of actual installation of improvements? :
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To obtain final plat approval, a subdivider may ei ther inst:all
required improvements, such as roads, or may provide a bond or otlher
financial guarantee which the Ci ty may ut i 1 ize to bui ld !the
improvements upon a defaul t by the subdivider A higher proportl'ion
than 100% is intended to ensure no out-of-pocket costs to the Ci ty
Other jurisdictions commonly require 110% to 200%, but in any base the
proportion should be stated in the ordinance.
The Commission's guidance will be much appreciated
Respectfully submitted,
Todd Stamm
City Planner
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MINUTES
YELM PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
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PUBIC HEARING
Yelm Resource Lands and Critical Areas
Draft Ordinance
FEBRUARY 18, 1992
Agenda Item/
Motion No.
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Meeting opened at 4.05 by Chair Tim Schlosser. IThe
agenda was approved not ing date change to January 21,
1992 for minutes to be approved.
Members Present Jim Keyes, Tom Cundy, Tim Schlosser,
Lyle Sundsmo, John Kinnee, Tom Gorman, Roberta
Longmire, James Brown and Joe Huddleston
Staff Present.
Colombo.
Gene Borges, Todd Stamm and Agnes
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Guests Glen Christianson, Councilwoman
Parsons, Bill Jolly, consultant and Sandy
Heartworks Design Studio.
Ma rlt ha
Newman,
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MOTION BY JOHN KINNEY TO APPROVE JANUARY 21, 1~92
MINUTES, SECONDED LYLE SUNDSMO MOTION CARRIED. I
February 11, 1992 work sess ion minutes corrected I to
read' ADJOURNED 6 00. i
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Continued Public Hearing on Proposed Yelm Resou~ce
Lands and Critical Areas Ordinance opened at 4'07 p p1
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Publ ic comment on proposed ordinance requested No
public comment made.
Public Hearing closed at 4 08 p m
Todd Stamm reviewed the issues and comments discus,sed
at the February 11, 1992 Commission work session on fhe
proposed ordinance The Critical Areas Ordinance
Motion was presented and discussed i
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Agenda Item/
Motion No
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MOTION TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE STAFF
ALTERNATIVE INTERIM YELM CRITICAL AREAS RESOURCE LANDS
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ORDINANCE AS PER CRITICAL AREAS ORDINANCE MOTION
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(ATTACHMENT A) - AND TO INCLUDE THE ADDITION OF THE
WORD INTERIM TO THE LAST LINE OF PARAGRAPH 1, WHICH NOW
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READS PROPOSED INTERIM ORDINANCE. ALSO ADDED WAS
RECOMMENDED TO THE THIRD LINE OF THE LAST PARAGRAPH,
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WHICH NOT READS PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED
ALTERNATIVE SECONDED TOM GORMAN MOTION CARRIED I
Members reviewed the Yelm Planning Department Wprk
Program for January 1992 - July 1994 Stamm explaihed
that time estimates for the period, in order I to
complete GMA requirements, call for 675 staff days fnd
68 Planning Commission meetings Stamm suggested ione
additional monthly meeting in the form of a wfrk
session Also possible are Saturday training sessions
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Stamm explained that GMA planning must include all/: of
the urban growth area and that items addressed on the
basis of a 20 year outlook would include utilities,
transportation, critical areas, open space, pu~lic
land/facility sites, pUblic awareness, joint J;:llan
completion, annexation pOlicy Also needed would ~e a
6 year plan for capital facility elements of the ~elm
Comprehensive Plan including water, sewer, storm water
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and transportation Other issues would include Pa.rks
and recreation, SEPA, and urban design i
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information be givenl to
of meet ings Stamm to 1 d
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that staff would provide agendas, etc I' to
1 week prior to meetings
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agreed that meetings would be scheduled: for
and 3rd Tuesdays of each month and that the: 1st
each month would be a work session The f~rst
under the new schedu Ie will be on Marcn 3,
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Members asked what progress had been made in removal
and replacement of signs across from Wolf Ha~en.
Borges told members that property owner also wa~ in
favor of removal Intent was to have new/repaiired
signs displayed with Chamber signs Process: is
currently stalled while awaiting decision on whe:ther
Chamber will allow placement of the signs.
Commission requested that
members further in advance
members
members
Members
the 1st
meeting
meeting
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Also questioned was
of Mt. View Rd and
Yelm Police Dept
signs.
the "For Sale" sign at the cOrI~er
Yelm Ave. W Borges advised t~at
will begin watching for ille~al
Discussed was the revocable license issued to
of the all ey behind Gordon's Garden Center
explained that the agreement allowed access
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for fire,
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Sandy Newman addressed the Commission She i is
proposing a complete remodelling of the old Barnhrd
building at Yelm Ave and Railroad Members hadl no
object ion to the project. No act ion was taken as [the
building had previously been condemned necessitatling
administrative review and City Council consideratjion
and approva I .
New business
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Meeting Adjourned at 5.30 P M
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UPCOMING MEETINGS
WORK SESSION
REGULAR MEETING.
MARCH 3, 1992
MARCH 18, 1992
4 00 P M., COUNCIL CHAMBERS, YELM CITY HALL
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Having concluded the public hearing and consid~red the comments of tJe
public and the city staff, and finding that the City of Yelm ils
required by the Growth Management Act to designate and protect natur~l
resource lands and critical areas, I move that the Planning Commissidn
recommend to the City Council that the Council adopt the Sta~f
Alternative version of the proposed ordinance with the following
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(j ) T~.;J~g_\ner;ec ~ ~ o~he2 a~r ~~~ I t~~:~ I :~::e~~/;~ i t i~~ added follow T
(2) That wherever occurring in the ordinance the area 10,000 squa~e
feet" be replaced by the area one-naIf acre to provide that
wetlands and pond habitats of less than one-half acre will not be
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the definition of wetlands" be amended by
or unintentionally between" intentionallY.
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(4) That Section 4 4 Wetlands be amended by inserting' the phrase
"determining whether the site is within 300 feet of a wetland is
defined herein and if a wetland IS found speclf\-ing the cateQotv
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(5) That Section 3 1 deslgnating resource lands be amended to read I
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Any lands lying within the Incorporated area and urban groh'th
area of the City of Yelm which have those characteristics s~t
forth in the definition of mineral lands area hereby designated
as mineral resource lands No agricultural or forest lands ate
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Further, that section 4 3 setting forth analysis and developmertt
standards for mineral resource lands be amended to read I
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Whene\er designated mineral resource land is located within 300
feet of any proposed development, notice of such condition sha~l
be provided to subsequent owners of the development site by means
of notices upon plats of record .and inclusion of notice in a!ll
real estate purchase and sale agreements, contracts of sale, ahd
real estate deeds i
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The following site analysis requirements and developme!nt
standards shall apply to any de\elopment which pursuant to the
previous section is found to lie withln 300 feet of a designat~d
natural resource land or critical area Consistent lodth tihe
">> Intent of this ordinance, the City Planner is authoflzed to
determine the appropriate scope and detail of any required si;te
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MOTION NO.
Critical Areas Ordinance Motion
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That in Section 2 1
inserting the term
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That Section 4 7(D)(2) Seismic Hazard
insert ing the words " and improvement s"
"structures" and the words or other
following the word "Code
Areas be
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The City Planner and other responsible officials shall administJr
this ordinance in accordance with the intent of the State Grow~h
Management Act and the policies of the City of Yelm I
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Further, that the city staff is directed to mahe the above amendment!s
to the "staff alternative" and to retitle the proposal as th1e
"Planning Commission Alternative, to edit the proposed ordinance t!o
correct spelling and grammatical errors, and to renumber sections an~
subsections in accordance with the above recommendation
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105 Yelm Avenue West
POBox 479
Yelm, Washington 98597
206-458-3244
PUBLIC NOTICE
NOTICE OF CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED "INTERIM"
ORDINANCE ON RESOURCE LANDS AND CRITICAL AREAS.
The Yelm Planning Commission will hold the continued Public
Hearing on the "interim" Resource Lands and Critical Areas
Ordinance, on Tuesday, February 18, 1992, 4:00 P.M., at
the Yelm City Hall Council Chambers, 105 Yelm Avenue West.
All interested parties are invited to attend. For information
please call 458-3244.
O ATIEST: S~elly A. Badger ( f: i (j,., ;:). fy,l/ t.rr. ,'"
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING & PUBLIC HEARING: Critical Lands &
Resource Areas Ordinance
February 18, 1992
Council Chambers, Yelm City Hall
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AGENDA
YELH PLANNINC COMMISSION
TUFSDAY FEBRUARY 18. 1992
4 00 PM, YELM CITY HALL
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Call to Order, RollCall and Agenda Confirmation
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Adjourn
NEXT r1EETING
planning\agenda doc
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 11, 1992
WORK SESSION
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Members Present. Tim Schlosser, Roberta Longmire, Tom Gorman and Jim Keyes
Staff Todd Stamm and Agnes Colombo Neil Aaland, Yelm's representati+e to
"South Towns Task Force" assigned to prepared the Proposed Commission Draft
Ordinance and Bill Jolly, consultant to Thurston County. Guests' Nancy
Weidinger j
Staff distributed Summary of Rationale for the Categories, explaining the
wetlands identification rating system used in the ordinance, to those
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Ordinance
Interim
Yelm
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Resource
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Staff Report dated
recommendations with
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Information Work session began at 4 10 p m
staff alternative of this ordinance and the
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indicated that most Yelm wetland falls into category III and IV of Table l'
Summary of Criteria by Category and Data Sources Rating System. i
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Typo omitting commercial from 2 1 Definitions, Agricultural Land
identified. Should be the commercial production Correction to be made
was
Discussion included the treatment of inadvertently "created" wetlands,: such
as pasture lands Keyes felt that a broader less restrictive interpretation
of wetlands should apply within urban areas. Staff explained rationale of
preserving such areas are that they serve a place in the ecological ~ystem
and also replaced destroyed wetlands i
Issue #2 Page 7. Wetlands definition, changing size from 10,000 square
feet to 1/2 acre Last paragraph could be changed to "intentionalily or
unintentionally created"
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of determination whether a wetland is natural or "created" - making j.t the.
applicants responsibility to prove if wetland or not
Issue #4. The type of deve I opmen t to be subj ect to spec ia 1
Staff requested administrative di~cretion during the interim
standards are prepared. App I i cants not agree ing wi th staff
recourse, they can take the issue to the City Council
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TYPE OF MEETING
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING & PUBLIC HEARING:
DATE OF MEETING
FEBRUARY 11. 1992
MEETING LOCATION
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POBox 479
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PUBLIC ruTICE
Nal'ICE OF SPECIAL MEETIlIIi OF '!HE YEIM PI..ANNJ]\I; CCMIJTSSION
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 11, 1992, 4:00 m
YEIM CITY HALL caJNCIL OIAMBERS, 105 YEIM AVE. W
The YeJm Planning Corrmission will hold a Special Meeting to conduct a
worksession on the proposed "interim" ordinance on critical areas and
natural resource lands. Meeting will be held on Tuesday, February 11, 1992
at 4: 00 PM in the Yel.m City Hall Council Chambers, 105 Yelm Ave. W.
All interested persons are invited to attend. Questions, please call 458-
3244.
ATI'EST:
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Shelly A. Badger ;J
City Clerk
Published in the Nisqually Valley News:
February 6, 1992
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YELM PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
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PUBLIC HEARING' Yelm Resource Lands and Critical Areas Draft
Ordinance
TUESDAY, JANUARY 21, 1992
q:A-t Minutes of November 19,
seconded Knight. Carried
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Members Present. James Brown, Tom Cundy, Joe Huddleston, Jim Keyes,
John Kinnee, George Knight, Roberta Longmire and Tim Schlosse~.
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Absent Tom Gorman. Staff Present Todd Stamm, Gene Borges and
Agnes Co I ombo Gues t s Margaret Clapp, Chamber of Commerce, Cindy
Cecil, United Citizens Betterment Organization, Bill Jolly, consultant
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Item 5 Margaret Clapp, Chair, Chamber of Commerce Pretty Ci~y
Committee, addressed the Commission and explained the long standing
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projects The Pretty City Committee compiled a broad assortment fof
documentation suggesting guidelines for the committee to oper~te
under. Copies of documentation were provided to Planning Commissiion
members for their review and comment prior to preparation of a final
document to be prepared by the Pretty Ci ty Commi ttee wi th Chaml:)er
endorsement. Final stage in the process would be City Counqil
approval of the document '
Agenda add it ions'
Resource Center
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Meeting opened at 4'05 p.m
by Chair Tim Schlosser
Staff was requested to check into sign placed at Yelm Ave
St on the weekends
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movement
Road for
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Borges requested that Commission members review and return copies and
comments at the next meeting then that staff be allowed ~he
opportunity to review suggestions and comments Stamm explained that
at this point no collective action was required of the Commission i
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Cindy Cecil requested a Conditional Use Permit to allow
of a bui lding to Communi ty Services Center site on Rhoion
use as a she Iter. Past minutes did not ref I ect act ion! on
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this specific issue when approval was given for use of the Rhoton
Road site. The Commission advised that this was part of the original
intent of the approval given at the prior meeting There being :no
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UCBO property no further action was necessary
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Todd Stamm, Planning Commission staff representative and
was introduced and briefed members on his background in
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Draft Ordinance opened at 4'15 p m. I
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by the state as part of the Growth Management Act, and must be enact~d
in some form to meet the extended state deadline of February 27, 199~.
Public Hearing process to begin at this meeting and be continued to
the February 18 regular meeting Staff will recommend a number of
changes to this draft to make it Yelm's ordinance If needed a work
session can be scheduled. i
Borges explained that more publ ic exposure would be given for t~e
continued Public Hearing scheduled for February 18 A more complete
document that members are familiar with would be available at th~t
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Bill Jolly was introduced and explained how this ordinance was
developed. Through Thurston County, Yelm, Rainier, Tenino and Bucoda
contracted with him to develop a generic/model ordinance designed ~o
meet state mandated Growth Management Act requirements The ordinanpe
would adopt development regulations to ensure the conservation bf
resource lands and protection of Critical Areas A task for~e
consisting of representatives of the four municipalities and a coun~y
representative gave input into developing this ordinance Neil Aal~nd
represented Yelm on the task force. As presented the ordinance is t~e
third draft and is intended to meet minimum state requirements on: a
interim basis until such time as permanent changes to t:he
comprehensive plan addressing these issues as well as housing,
transportation, public facilities etc. are made (required by JUly
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The draft ordinance defines forest, agricultural and mineral resounce
lands, all are treated as nonexistent within the incorporated lim~ts
of Yelm. Critical areas to be addressed include: wetlands, aquii1er
recharge areas, frequently flooded areas, geologically hazardous ar~as
and fish and wildlife habitats. Intent is to rely on and work f170m
existing data bases/maps and to update as reI iable data bases/maps
become available Sources include State Dept of Wildlife, S6il
Conservation Service and Thurston County Additional maps Jnd
information will be forthcoming and include erosion and land sllde
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When adopted, the ordinance will require applicants
consideration to resource lands and critical areas during
process Requests would be site specific
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Longmire questioned what would happen if adoption of this ordinanqe
within Yelm occurs while the Thurston County adopts somethirig
different, and how future annexations would be affected by this
difference Stamm answered that this ordinance should be considerJd
as applying to all property within the Yelm's Growth Management ArJa
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and that upon annexation our regulations begin to apply and County
regulations cease to apply. All rules of existing non-conforming us~s
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etc. would still apply, you don't automatically change them due to
annexation. Changes required as a condition of annexation would be
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Stamm offered to walk members through a list of issues identified py
Neil Aaland, Borges and Stamm Schlosser requested a written outline
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What is a qualified professional? !
Share of professionals work to be done by city staff? - recovery
of expenses, or do it for them and charge, or do it for thbm
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Which projects/developments will be subject to this, individu~l
house, conditional use? i
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Which can be deleted because they don't apply? (recommend
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Delineating aquifer recharge areas (map assumed to be correct)!
Wetlands, a whole list of issues, size to protect, definitio;n,
rating system to use, how to define important/sensitive? I
Buffers - setbacks, distance to be used, uses allowed within, Who
can reduce, minimum, maximum I
Level of public notice, how much to spend on getting the word out
Agency notice - neighboring jurisdiction. county, fort etc. ;
Helpful if City/County definitions match - consistency would ibe
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Keyes addressed advantages of working with current staff and suggested
work session due to complexity of issues. Session to be held 4:00
p m., February 11 Requested that staff send reminder notice ito
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to work session )
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When questioned by Longmire, Stamm stated that this ordinance wo~ld
not address "historic" properties and that for the present the SEPA
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Public comment by Nancy Weidinger included questioning as to the
definition of resource land and in the event of one resourde
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overlapping another, for example an aquifer overlapped by mineral
resource land, which would take precedence? Jolly responded that
overlapping had been considered and that for resource lands long te~m
commercial significance as socially desirable ends to themselves had
been validated by the legislature. Jolly explained further th~t
individual aspects would be considered i.e process used etc. I
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Weidinger also expressed her belief that the plateau area toward tfue
bottom of Hammersmith Hill should be zoned 1/5 to protect the aquifbr
running under that area. She also expressed an interest in attendihg
future meetings dealing with the Urban Growth Boundary and Plannihg
Commission related meetings Borges requested that she be added to
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Schlosser recommended that reasonable coverage be given to notice bf
the continued Public Hearing It was suggested that notice be giv~n
in addition to the required legal notice I
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Motion made by Longmire, seconded Keyes to continue the Publ ic Heariing
q;;;J-- to February 18, 1992, the next regular Planning Commission meeting
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Item 9 Chamber request for off premise sign for Economic Developm~nt
Council Resource Center. Center will be housed at Yelm High School ion
a temporary basis. Kinnee explained that the resource center would!be
using a conference room in the library to offer assistance in putting
together and deal ing wi th the problems encountered by smell I
businesses Sign ordinance does not allow for this Kinnee told
members that sign kiosk was being considered for YHS grounds that will
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Members were informed that the Council will be holding a special
information meeting on impact fees at 4.30 on Wednesday, January 29/ if
members would like to attend
Planning Commission Meeting adjourned 5 50.
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STAFF REPORT
PROPOSED INTERIM RESOURCE LANDS AND CRITICAL AREAS
ORDINANCE
February 19, 1992
Designation and protective regulations for "natural resource
lands" and "critical areas" were mandated by the State in
the 1990 Growth Management Act This report outlines and
analyzes the substantive and procedural issues identified by
the city staff with regard to the proposed resource lands
and critical areas ordinance for Yelm
The Department of Community Development CDCD) granted Yelm a
180-day extension to February 28, 1992, from the September
1, 1991, deadline imposed by the Act No further extensions
are available Failure to timely adopt such regulations
could subject the City to citizen lawsuits or revenue
sanctions by the State However, DCD officials have
indicated that no sanctions will be proposed so long as a
"good faith" effort is made to comply with the Act
The proposed ordinance has been prepared by the "South
County Towns Task Force" with the assistance of Bill Jolly,
a consultant to Thurston County. A "staff alternative" to
the proposed ordinance has also been prepared This
alternative verSIon incorporates the recommendations
included in this staff report, as well as editorial changes
This report is organized in the order that the issues are
raised in the text of the proposed ordinance
Issue #1 Whether to adopt an ordinance designating and
imposing regulations to protect natural resource lands and
critical areas
Staff Analysis. This type of ordinance is mandated by state
law A decision to entirely reject such an ordinance could
result in sanctions from the State by withholding revenue
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these "publ ic" resou.r-ces The state law does provide a
great deal of local discretion in defining such lands and in
the standards of protection The proposed ordinance
parallels advisory guidelines adopted by DCD, but does vary
in places to meet local conditions and staff limitations
Staff Recommendation
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Do adopt such an ordinance in some
Issue #2 Are the various types of natural resource lands
and critical areas appropriately defined?
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Staff Analysis The definitions of "agricultural lands,"
"forest lands," "mineral lands," and "critical aquifer
recharge areas, "fish and wildlife habitat conservations
areas," geologically hazardous areas" and "wetlands" are
very similar to those recommended by DCD In particular,
the wetland definition is largely taken from the federal
Fish and Wildlife Service The City has a great deal of
discretion with regard to the minimum size of wetland or
other critical area which is to be protected
Staff Recommendation' Adopt the revised definitions of the
"staff alternative" with ponds and wetlands of 1/2 acre to
20 acres in size being protected These do not differ
substantially from the generic proposal
Issue #3' What type of development should be subject to
this ordinance?
Staff Analysis Small scale and special types of
development could be exempt As proposed only existing uses
and certain uti I ities are exempt.
Staff Recommendation
No substantive change
Issue #4 What type of development should be subject to
special site analysis?
Staff Analysis Although all development is subject to
these standards, the City need not require a special
analysis for every size and type of development
Staff Recommendation' Provide the City Planner with the
discretion to vary the analysis required depending upon the
size and type of development and the relative sensitivity of
the critical area in the vicinity
Issue #5' What is a "qualified professional" for purposes
of analysis of critical areas?
Staff Analysis Each person proposing development within
........- the vicinity of a critical area or resourc.e lands is
required to provide a report from a "qualified
professional" Because of the wide variety of possible
development and the many types of protected areas it is
difficult to define the required qualifications of the
person preparing the report
Staff Recommendation Permit any appropriately licensed
person to prepare the report and provide the City Planner
with the discretion to approve any person based upon the
standards set forth in the definition of a "qualified
professional" in the "Commission Recommended" draft.
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Issue #6 Who should bear the cost of the report required
by the ordinance?
Staff Analysis: The City or the applicant could prepare
such reports, the expense could be divided, or a distinction
made based upon the size or type of development It has
been the City's prac'tice to require that environmental
assessments be done by development proponents at their
expense The City is without qualified professionals on
staff to prepare these reports and would need to retain
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Staff Recommendation Require that all such report be paid
for and presented by the applicant but continue to provide
the customary high level of staff assistance especially to
less experience applicants Monitor the costs of this
ordinance to applicants and make changes accordingly at a
later date
Issue #7 What is the "weight" to be given to the maps, are
they to be official and final or merely used for guidance?
Staff Analysis The accuracy of the resource lands and
critical areas maps is quite variable The proposed
ordinance would presume that the maps are accurate but
provide the applicant an administrative means of challenging
the City Planner's interpretation of the maps In addition,
the maps would be updated as more more accurate information
becomes available
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Staff Recommendation Provide interpretation discretion to
the City Planner and authorize the City Planner to require
critical area site analysis even if the area is not mapped
if the request is based on a reasonable possibility of a
critical area in the vicinity
Issue #8' How close does a proposed development need to be
to a mapped critical area before a report is required~
Staff Analysis The generic draft seems to require a report
.........~_ only if the proposed development site incLudes a critical
area State law and recommended buffers extend
consideration of resource lands and critical areas to a
distance of 300 feet from the development
Staff Recommendation Incorporate staff-alternative
provisions which require a report if within 300 feet of a
cr i t ica 1 area.-
Issue #9 Is the critical areas report required to submIt a
"complete" application for development?
Staff Analysis This is an,issue for purposes of "vesting,"
ie , the point at which an applicant has a right to develop
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under existing regulations The proposed generic draft
would require the report before an application vests In
some cases preparation of this report may take a relatively
long time (30 days to one year)
Staff Recommendation: Do not require the report for a
"complete" application, but do require it before a decision
can be rendered by the City
Issue #10' What wetland manual should be used by the
analyst?
Staff Analysis. There are three principal manuals used to
analyze wetlands These are commonly known as the 1987,
1989, and 1991 federal manuals 1989 is the most
restrictive while 1991 is the least restrictive Thurston
County and the State require use of the 1989 manual
Staff Recommendation. Require use of the 1989 manual to
ensure that all wetlands of value to the public are
protected, but adjust development standards accordingly to
ensure that the City does not "over protect" wetlands
Issue #11 Should any agricultural, forest, or mineral
lands be designated within Yelm?
Staff Analysis The state law requires a provision for
compensation if agricultural or forest lands are designated
within an urban growth boundary. In any case, no lands
meeting natural resource land definitions are known to exist
within Yelm's urban growth boundary
Staff Recommendation Provide that any sites "discovered"
which meet the mineral lands definition are so classified.
Inventory and map all natural resource lands during later
joint or extraterritorial planning
Issue #12
wetlands?
What should be the width of the "buffer" around
......._ Staf f Ana I ys i s The Department of Eco logy, is research ing
this issue to provide better information The generic draft
includes Ecology's recommended ranges of buffer width
Staff Recommendation Adopt "average" buffer widths for
category I and II wetlands, which generally contain
protected plants and animals; and adopt minimal buffer
widths for more ordinary wetlands. Provide the City P1anner
with the discretion to reduce any required wetland buffer
down to a minimum of 25 feet so long as th& wetland is
protected
Issue #13 What uses of the buffer area should be
permitted?
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Staff Analysis The proposal would permit outdoor
recreation, existing agriculture other uses, plus
maintenance of existing facilities and structures One
we~land and buffer use-subject to particular controversy in
other jurisdictions has been stormwater ponds and treatment.
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Staff Recommendation Permit use of buffers for right-angle
crossing of wetlands by roads and utilities. Prohibit
filling or substantial disturbance of wetlands except for
enhancement of wetland values or if not harm is reasonably
foreseeable. Limit outdoor recreation that substantially
disturbs existing vegetation, such as basketball courts.
Discuss and list other permitted uses, such as residential
lawns subject to best management practices
Issue 14# Since nearly the entire incorporated area of Yelm
is within an area designated as an critical aquifer recharge
area of "extreme" sensitivity, which development in the City
should be required to conduct an sensitive aquifer study?
Staff Analysis Area-wi~e studies are in progress will
recommend best management practices for protecting the Yelm
Prairie aquifer However, co~pletion dates are unknown
Staff Recommendation. In the meantime, provide the staff
with discretion to require a site analysis and apply aqUifer
protection standards when warranted based upon the type and
size of the proposed project
Issue #15 -Should Ye1m provide an option f6r replacement of
wetlands to be eliminated by development?
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Staff Analysis The viability of mitigation of wetland
impacts by replacement is a very controversial issue subject
to continuing research
Staff Recommendation Defer this issue by not prOViding
such an option. If necessary, a project proponent could
later propose amendment of the ordinance
..-._ Issue #16' Should a landowner be given cr.edit for critical
areas toward the gross density of housing or other
development permitted on the site?
Staff Analysis' A protected critical area mayor may not
count toward calculating the overall density permitted by
zoning Some jurisdictions exclude the critical area as
"nondevelopable land" but permit any buffer area to be
considered As drafted neither version of Yelm's ordinance
not exclude critical areas from the land included to
determine the nu~ber of housing units permitted on a site
This approach could result in higher densities in the
vicinity of critical areas than in other parts of Yelm.
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reluctance to cluster housing may control overall density
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Staff Recommendation Give credit for critica.l afeas toward
gross density of development to encourage a more intensively
developed urban area
Issue #17 Should stormwater ponds be permitted within
wetland buffer areas?
Staff Analy~is As drafted stormwater ponds would not be
permitted in buffer areas. This exclusion applies even
though these low areas are usually the most practical, least
cost, site
Staff Recommendation No change (for now), but reconsider
this issue when stormwater standards are proposed
Issue #18 Should provisions be made for road crossing~ of
wetlands?
Staff Analysis As proposed, the Cbmmis~ion Recommended
version would permit buffer areas to be Used for new roads
which are to cross wetlands lesB than 25 feet wide This
approach would still require that the wetland itself to
bridged, not filled To permit filling of wetlands for
crossings would require development of replacement
standards
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Staff Recommendation Adopt Commission recommendation but
be prepared to modify if specifi~ proposals for othe~ types
of crossings are presented by landowners.
Respectfully submitted,
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City Planner
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AGENDA
OF YELM PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, JANUARY 21, 1992
4:00 P.M., YELM CITY HALL
1. Call to order
2. Roll call
3. Approval of Minutes: November 19, 1991
4. Agenda additions/deletions
5. Pretty City Committee sample ordinance
6. UCBO request to move building to Community Services
Center site.
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Public Hearing:
Yelm Resource Lands and Critical
Areas Ordinance Draft
8. Staff Report
9. Other
10. Other
II. Adjourn
NEXT MEETING: 4:00 P.M., Tuesday, February 18, 1992
Council Chambers, Yelm City Hall
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AGENDA SUMMARY
JANUARY 21, 1992
1 Meeting opening - 4:00 p m.
2 Review of minutes of previous meeting.
3 Publ ic Hearing continued from the last meeting regarding the
Poposed "Interim Resources Lands and Critical Areas Ordinanee."
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The Ordinance would regulate development to protect wet la11ds,
floodplains, aquifers, geologically hazardous areas, and fish and
wi ldl ife habi tat. An ordinance of this type is required by the
State Growth Management Act Two versions - generic and staff
al ternative wi II be presented to the Commission I for
consideration and recommendation to the CouQcil
4 The Commission will review and help to establish priorities for
the Community Development Department 1992 work program
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