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FW Forester Booster StationIPM.Note FW: Forester Booster Station FW: Steve Harrington Mike Ollivant Steve Harrington SMTP MOllivant@parametrix.com Forester Booster Station EX /O=CITYOFYELM/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=STEVEH EX /O=CITYOFYELM/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=STEVEH Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: from psmtp.com ([64.18.0.130]) by server1.ci.yelm.wa.us with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:22:55 -0700 Received: from source ([216.32.181.16]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx291.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:20:37 PDT Received: from mail223-wa4-R.bigfish.com (10.8.14.252) by WA4EHSOBE004.bigfish.com (10.8.40.24) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.240.5; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:20:37 +0000 Received: from mail223-wa4 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail223-wa4-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76570106042A for <steveh@ci.yelm.wa.us>; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:20:37 +0000 (UTC) X-BigFish: VPS-26(zz7efV18c1Kf4eMzz10d3izz186Mz2dh6bh61h) X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 0:0 Received: by mail223-wa4 (MessageSwitch) id 1215624033810515_23983; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:20:33 +0000 (UCT) Received: from scan.parametrix.com (scan.parametrix.com [209.164.172.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail223-wa4.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2A11788057 for <steveh@ci.yelm.wa.us>; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CORPHUB02.parametrix.com (172.24.10.125) by CORPEDGE01.parametrix.com (209.164.172.13) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.240.5; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:20:35 -0700 Received: from CORPEXCHMB01.parametrix.com ([10.10.10.11]) by CORPHUB02.parametrix.com ([172.24.10.125]) with mapi; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:20:32 -0700 From: Mike Ollivant <MOllivant@parametrix.com> To: "steveh@ci.yelm.wa.us" <steveh@ci.yelm.wa.us> CC: Randy Raymond <RRaymond@parametrix.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:20:30 -0700 Subject: FW: Forester Booster Station Thread-Topic: Forester Booster Station Thread-Index: Achs2ZdjR9W4xWdVRP2Lr4GAmVnbIgAAfXwwAAAgvBAAMX9aIAHSLRBgGz9UJ+A= Message-ID: <85B8A2F0F0B8DE47B11EE876D3CEBA4A3110886072@CORPEXCHMB01.parametrix.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_85B8A2F0F0B8DE47B11EE876D3CEBA4A3110886072CORPEXCHMB01p_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: MOllivant@parametrix.com X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.0000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <MOllivant@parametrix.com> [19/1] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jul 2008 17:22:55.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[6CD3A0D0:01C8E1E8] --_000_85B8A2F0F0B8DE47B11EE876D3CEBA4A3110886072CORPEXCHMB01p_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --_000_85B8A2F0F0B8DE47B11EE876D3CEBA4A3110886072CORPEXCHMB01p_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --_000_85B8A2F0F0B8DE47B11EE876D3CEBA4A3110886072CORPEXCHMB01p_-- Mike Ollivant SMTP MOllivant@parametrix.com Randy Raymond Steve Harrington Forester Booster Station From: Jim Gibson [mailto:jimg@ci.yelm.wa.us] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:36 PM To: Mike Ollivant Subject: FW: Forester Booster Station Your comments would be appreciated. Please sent them to the City so we can have a discussion before responding to the applicant. Jim Gibson P.E. City of Yelm, Development Review Engineer PO Box 479 Yelm,WA. 98597 Ph. 360.458.8438 Fx. 360.458.3144 jimg@ci.yelm.wa.us ________________________________ From: Clint Pierpoint [mailto:clint.pierpoint@kpff.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:44 AM To: Jim Gibson Cc: 'Doug Bloom'; 'Steve Chamberlain' Subject: RE: Forester Booster Station Jim, During our meeting regarding the Forrester booster station, the city identified a need to provide higher residential pressure than what had been previously proposed. After discussing this matter with several pump suppliers, it will not be feasible to provide multiples of the same-size pump for domestic and fire-flow. The low-volume, high-head for domestic demands will require a small multi-stage pump that can operate efficiently between 20 and 80 gallons per minute. Conversely, the fire pump needs to operate at significantly less head-pressure with a relative high volume (750 gpm). Any pump that can provide the domestic flow and head has a steep pump curve indicative of a multi-stage pump, and a fire pump has a flat pump curve consistent with a single-stage centrifugal pump. We had originally proposed providing an additional same-size pump for redundancy. However, given these restrictions, we propose to provide two alternating, lead/lag pumps with VFD’s for domestic demands and redundancy; fire-flow will be met with a single or pair of pumps without redundancy. Please confirm this configuration will be adequate to meet the City’s needs. Thank you for you consideration in this matter. If you need any additional information, please don’t hesitate to contact me. Clinton D. Pierpoint | Associate KPFF Consulting Engineers 4200 Sixth Avenue, Suite 309 Lacey, Washington 98503 O: (360) 292-7230 M: (360) 790-6832 F: (360) 292-7231 clint.pierpoint@kpff.com <mailto:clint.pierpoint@kpff.com> www.kpff.com <http://www.kpff.com> ________________________________ From: Jim Gibson [mailto:jimg@ci.yelm.wa.us] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:30 AM To: Clint Pierpoint Cc: Doug Bloom Subject: RE: Forrester Booster Station Clint - At WEDNESDAYS meeting we discussed that you were going to send me an email with the supporting information about the pump curves not be efficient and why you were proposing to not supply the redundancy as requested by the City? I need this before I can have a discussion about the requirements. Jim Gibson P.E. City of Yelm, Development Review Engineer PO Box 479 Yelm,WA. 98597 Ph. 360.458.8438 Fx. 360.458.3144 jimg@ci.yelm.wa.us ________________________________ From: Jim Gibson Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:29 AM To: 'Clint Pierpoint' Cc: 'Doug Bloom' Subject: RE: Forrester Booster Station Clint - At Tuesdays meeting we discussed that you were going to send me an email with the supporting information about the pump curves not be efficient and why you were proposing to not supply the redundancy as requested by the City? I need this before I can have a discussion about the requirements. Jim Gibson P.E. City of Yelm, Development Review Engineer PO Box 479 Yelm,WA. 98597 Ph. 360.458.8438 Fx. 360.458.3144 jimg@ci.yelm.wa.us ________________________________ From: Clint Pierpoint [mailto:clint.pierpoint@kpff.com] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:12 AM To: Jim Gibson Cc: 'Doug Bloom' Subject: Forrester Booster Station Jim, Can you confirm the redundancy requirement for fire flow pumps? The city is justifying to DOH, that this booster station is a distribution component to serve a minimal number of units and is not a major municipal facility. Essentially, can the booster station be designed to provide fire and peak domestic demands without absolute redundancy? Thanks you, Clinton D. Pierpoint | Associate KPFF Consulting Engineers 4200 Sixth Avenue, Suite 309 Lacey, Washington 98503 O: (360) 292-7230 M: (360) 790-6832 F: (360) 292-7231 clint.pierpoint@kpff.com <mailto:clint.pierpoint@kpff.com> www.kpff.com <http://www.kpff.com> <85B8A2F0F0B8DE47B11EE876D3CEBA4A3110886072@CORPEXCHMB01.parametrix.com> FW%3A Forester Booster Station.EML Steve Harrington Steve Harrington EX /O=CITYOFYELM/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=STEVEH steveh steveh@ci.yelm.wa.us SMTP steveh@ci.yelm.wa.us Randy Raymond SMTP RRaymond@parametrix.com Randy Raymond Randy Raymond