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Yelm Wal-Mart 3705 - 103rd Avenue drainage issues
I forgot to copy you in the email response.
Jim Gibson P.E.
City of Yelm, Development Review Engineer
PO Box 479 Yelm,WA. 98597
Ph. 360.458.8438 Fx. 360.458.3144
jimg@ci.yelm.wa.us
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From: Jim Gibson
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:07 PM
To: 'Mike Beach'
Cc: 'Jason Munich'; Grant Beck; 'chambkm@co.thurston.wa.us'; 'hughesk@co.thurston.wa.us'
Subject: RE: Yelm Wal-Mart 3705 - 103rd Avenue drainage issues
Mike -
When the SEPA MDNS was issued for this project the City required this project to provide:
Section E of the MDNS:
The future SR 510 Yelm Loop shall be connected to 103rd Street by constructing a new road with two 12-foot drive lanes and 4-foot shoulders. 103rd Street from
the intersection of the SR 510 Yelm Loop road extension to the bridge over Yelm Creek shall be widened to include two 11-foot drive lanes and 4-foot shoulders…
Mitigation measures c, d, and e are appropriate to provide for the safe movement of traffic and are not necessary to mitigate potential, significant impacts.
After the SEPA was issued the County came back and wanted to require a larger drive lanes and paved shoulders. If you remember the City had meetings with them supporting the original
MDNS requirement at your request. And it was decided to keep the same design. Then Pac land submitted a design change to the County, which was to move the roadway over 10 feet to the
south side of the right of way to avoid the utility conflicts to the north. You got it approved and signed by Dale Rancor and then sent it to me. This drainage issue seems to me to
be a side effect of moving the roadway 10’ feet to the south. The design has exacerbated already limited stormwater drainage areas. This may not have been in the original project mitigation
however by changing the design it appears the existing stormwater patterns have been modified and now have a potential for flooding. This seems to be directly attributable to the roadway
relocation.
I believe you should work with the County to solve this problem. It is in their jurisdiction, they own and maintain the roadway in this area and the citizens are mostly located in the
County. I understand you have met with the County as long as 3 weeks ago to discuss this and are waiting for a response from you. I do not see where the City has any influence in this
matter. However we can not issue a Final C of O with out the County’s sign off of the improvements.
Jim Gibson P.E.
City of Yelm, Development Review Engineer
PO Box 479 Yelm,WA. 98597
Ph. 360.458.8438 Fx. 360.458.3144
jimg@ci.yelm.wa.us
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From: Mike Beach [mailto:mbeach@pacland.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:49 PM
To: Jim Gibson; Grant Beck
Cc: Jason Munich
Subject: FW: Yelm Wal-Mart 3705 - 103rd Avenue drainage issues
Importance: High
Jim,
I’m not sure what we are expected to do here. It seems this is slightly outside our scope of anticipated mitigation for the project. The improvements along this portion were to mitigate
for the additional traffic.
We can go in and put in a swale along this area, however I believe the citizens in this area will be slightly angry if we tear up this area. Please call at your earliest to discuss
this issue and what you anticipate should be completed.
Thank you,
Mike Beach
PACLAND
606 Columbia Street NW, Suite 211
Olympia, WA 98501
Office: (360) 786-9500
Fax: (360) 786-5267
TURNING VISIONS INTO REALITY
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From: Ryan Rantz [mailto:ryan.rantz@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:45 PM
To: Mike Beach; alewis@bird.ca
Subject: Yelm Wal-Mart 3705 - 103rd Avenue drainage issues
Mike-
Please call Kevin Chambers at Thurston County (360.754.4580) to coordinate the required changes to prevent drainage issues along 103rd West of Grove Road. I talked with Kevin yesterday
and they are waiting on a plan revision from Pacland to prevent ponding along the south edge of 103rd and at the intersection of a private drive to the South during heavy rainfall.
Ryan Rantz
Bird Construction, Inc.
Project Manager
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