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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Wednesday, August 12, 2020 1:39 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: Daly & SE Res
I am pretty open on Friday. I at Public Works right now. Do you want to call me now? Cell: (360) 878-2042
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:08 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Daly & SE Res
Pat
Are you able to chat Friday to bring me up to speed?
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
360.458.8496
www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Friday, August 7, 2020 12:25 PM
To:Patrick Hughes
Cc:Leslie Findlay; Cody Colt; Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly, questions 8.6.2020
Pat,
Thanks for the response and I will add that this is for information only when I email Dennis, I will be including you in the
email.
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 9:57 AM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly, questions 8.6.2020
Marge:
See my responses below in red type. By providing these responses, Dennis needs to understand that I am NOT
proposing any sort of a deal or making any promises. These responses are only what I would assume to customary and
reasonable.
Nothing is preventing Dennis from selling to a developer.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 10:02 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly, questions 8.6.2020
Pat,
Dennis called this morning. He wants to know what if any restoration is required;
1. Removal of the septic tanks?
2. cap off the well?
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3. restore the site where the mobile home sits? We’ve only discussed the removal of the mobile home but not the
garage or the shed.
For Questions 1, 2 and 3, I would expect that the City would take care of these items as part of its site preparation work
for the new tank. With the exception of removing the tenant and mobile home, the City would acquire the property “as
is”. Only after the tenant and mobile home are gone, can we discuss details of a purchase.
4. Item #10 of the site plan review indicates extension and connection to a 10” water main. There is no mention of a 6”
pipe in the estimate. What size pipe is Dennis required to install? Dennis said a 6” is all that is required but I don’t see
where this is mentioned. Dennis will not need to worry about installing a water main. The City is no longer considering a
“swap” of installing the water main in exchange for the 1.39-acre parcel. We have since learned that cost of the water
main (regardless of what size is installed) along Walmart Blvd. will be somewhere around $340,000 (even though this
cost would be likely be shared with a future development across the road). The 1.39-acre parcel was assessed at about
$42,000. The City cannot make this swap; it is not an equitable trade. The City is proceeding with the design and
construction of a 10-inch main at its own expense to meet its requirements and time schedule. The City, if it so chooses,
will later recover its costs through a latecomers agreement, payable at the time of hook up. This is a much simpler
proposal.
5. Key Note I of the Preliminary Site plan indicates removal of the house and driveway. There is no specific mention of
the mobile removal in the site plan review. Would you please let me know if there is a reference in the site plan review
that applies to the removal? The “house” and the “mobile home” are the same thing. Note I is very clear that the house
(mobile home) must be removed as part of Dennis’ proposed development plan.
6. In reference to Dennis’ statement that he did not tell me that the tenants were moving in November: my notes
indicate that we discussed Dennis’ tenants on 6/19/2019, he said the lease was to expire in November and they would
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go month to month in December. On 10/3/2019, Pat wrote to Dennis regarding the 24 hour notice to enter; 2 to last
sentence states that the tenants don’t need to move until the end of next summer. The “end of the summer” is now
here. The City is not ready to make an offer to Dennis until the tenant and mobile home are off the property.
Thank you,
Marge
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Friday, August 7, 2020 9:57 AM
To:Marge Bailey
Cc:Leslie Findlay; Cody Colt; Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly, questions 8.6.2020
Marge:
See my responses below in red type. By providing these responses, Dennis needs to understand that I am NOT
proposing any sort of a deal or making any promises. These responses are only what I would assume to customary and
reasonable.
Nothing is preventing Dennis from selling to a developer.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 10:02 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly, questions 8.6.2020
Pat,
Dennis called this morning. He wants to know what if any restoration is required;
1. Removal of the septic tanks?
2. cap off the well?
3. restore the site where the mobile home sits? We’ve only discussed the removal of the mobile home but not the
garage or the shed.
For Questions 1, 2 and 3, I would expect that the City would take care of these items as part of its site preparation work
for the new tank. With the exception of removing the tenant and mobile home, the City would acquire the property “as
is”. Only after the tenant and mobile home are gone, can we discuss details of a purchase.
4. Item #10 of the site plan review indicates extension and connection to a 10” water main. There is no mention of a 6”
pipe in the estimate. What size pipe is Dennis required to install? Dennis said a 6” is all that is required but I don’t see
where this is mentioned. Dennis will not need to worry about installing a water main. The City is no longer considering a
“swap” of installing the water main in exchange for the 1.39-acre parcel. We have since learned that cost of the water
main (regardless of what size is installed) along Walmart Blvd. will be somewhere around $340,000 (even though this
cost would be likely be shared with a future development across the road). The 1.39-acre parcel was assessed at about
$42,000. The City cannot make this swap; it is not an equitable trade. The City is proceeding with the design and
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construction of a 10-inch main at its own expense to meet its requirements and time schedule. The City, if it so chooses,
will later recover its costs through a latecomers agreement, payable at the time of hook up. This is a much simpler
proposal.
5. Key Note I of the Preliminary Site plan indicates removal of the house and driveway. There is no specific mention of
the mobile removal in the site plan review. Would you please let me know if there is a reference in the site plan review
that applies to the removal? The “house” and the “mobile home” are the same thing. Note I is very clear that the house
(mobile home) must be removed as part of Dennis’ proposed development plan.
6. In reference to Dennis’ statement that he did not tell me that the tenants were moving in November: my notes
indicate that we discussed Dennis’ tenants on 6/19/2019, he said the lease was to expire in November and they would
nd
go month to month in December. On 10/3/2019, Pat wrote to Dennis regarding the 24 hour notice to enter; 2 to last
sentence states that the tenants don’t need to move until the end of next summer. The “end of the summer” is now
here. The City is not ready to make an offer to Dennis until the tenant and mobile home are off the property.
Thank you,
Marge
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Thursday, August 6, 2020 10:03 PM
To:Patrick Hughes
Cc:Leslie Findlay; Cody Colt; Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly 8.6.2020
Pat,
I just sent you an email with the items I discussed with Dennis yesterday and today.
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:09 AM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly 8.6.2020
Dennis is completely nuts if he thinks the City would entertain that idea.
I will not pay more for a piece of property that contains a mobile home that I don’t need. I do not want to pay to remove
that mobile home. And I certainly am not going to pay for another appraisal under a scenario that will end up costing
the City more. You and I are clearly on the same page on that.
I would rather walk away. We have 14 other potential sites for this water reservoir. Dennis’ property wasn’t even
among our original top 4 choices. Attached is the ranking of all 15 parcels we originally considered. Dennis’ property is
listed as Parcel 8.
At this point, I’d rather deal with a new developer than ‘with Dennis unreasonable requests. So I say just wait to see
what Dennis does. I am in no hurry whatsoever.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:05 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly 8.6.2020
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Pat,
Per our conversation yesterday and my conversation with Dennis, he did not say whether or not he had a buyer or sale
pending. He just wants the City to make him an offer. I reiterated that the City will not be making an offer at this time.
I explained that his development plan has terms that need to be adhered to, he said he may change this to 49 units, so
he can leave the mobile on the property. I believe he thinks the City would need to re-appraise the property, which
would then include the mobile and the City would have to purchase the mobile. I didn’t bring up the fact that there are
other parcels that are on our list of possible acquisition sites.
We discussed his development plan but I said it was separate from the City’s offer but the City’s offer hinges on the
removal of the mobile. Would it be okay if Tami provided me with a copy of the development plan just for reference?
I will be looking through my notes to find the date that Dennis stated it was his intent to have the tenants move. He said
he didn’t say this.
I’ll keep you posted on my contact with Dennis.
Thanks,
Marge
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
This message, including any attachments, contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. Any disclosure, copying, or
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Thursday, August 6, 2020 10:02 PM
To:Patrick Hughes
Cc:Leslie Findlay; Cody Colt; Tami Merriman
Subject:\[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly, questions 8.6.2020
Pat,
Dennis called this morning. He wants to know what if any restoration is required;
1. Removal of the septic tanks?
2. cap off the well?
3. restore the site where the mobile home sits? We’ve only discussed the removal of the mobile home but not the
garage or the shed.
4. Item #10 of the site plan review indicates extension and connection to a 10” water main. There is no mention of a 6”
pipe in the estimate. What size pipe is Dennis required to install? Dennis said a 6” is all that is required but I don’t see
where this is mentioned.
5. Key Note I of the Preliminary Site plan indicates removal of the house and driveway. There is no specific mention of
the mobile removal in the site plan review. Would you please let me know if there is a reference in the site plan review
that applies to the removal?
6. In reference to Dennis’ statement that he did not tell me that the tenants were moving in November: my notes
indicate that we discussed Dennis’ tenants on 6/19/2019, he said the lease was to expire in November and they would
nd
go month to month in December. On 10/3/2019, Pat wrote to Dennis regarding the 24 hour notice to enter; 2 to last
sentence states that the tenants don’t need to move until the end of next summer.
Thank you,
Marge
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
This message, including any attachments, contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. Any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this message or the taking of any action based on it, by anyone other than the intended recipient stated herein, without the express written consent of Tierra
Right of Way Services is strictly prohibited.
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:09 AM
To:Marge Bailey
Cc:Leslie Findlay; Cody Colt; Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly 8.6.2020
Attachments:2018-04-26 - Site Prioritization Ranking Matrix (Only) - SE Reservoir.pdf
Dennis is completely nuts if he thinks the City would entertain that idea.
I will not pay more for a piece of property that contains a mobile home that I don’t need. I do not want to pay to remove
that mobile home. And I certainly am not going to pay for another appraisal under a scenario that will end up costing
the City more. You and I are clearly on the same page on that.
I would rather walk away. We have 14 other potential sites for this water reservoir. Dennis’ property wasn’t even
among our original top 4 choices. Attached is the ranking of all 15 parcels we originally considered. Dennis’ property is
listed as Parcel 8.
At this point, I’d rather deal with a new developer than ‘with Dennis unreasonable requests. So I say just wait to see
what Dennis does. I am in no hurry whatsoever.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:05 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly 8.6.2020
Pat,
Per our conversation yesterday and my conversation with Dennis, he did not say whether or not he had a buyer or sale
pending. He just wants the City to make him an offer. I reiterated that the City will not be making an offer at this time.
I explained that his development plan has terms that need to be adhered to, he said he may change this to 49 units, so
he can leave the mobile on the property. I believe he thinks the City would need to re-appraise the property, which
would then include the mobile and the City would have to purchase the mobile. I didn’t bring up the fact that there are
other parcels that are on our list of possible acquisition sites.
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We discussed his development plan but I said it was separate from the City’s offer but the City’s offer hinges on the
removal of the mobile. Would it be okay if Tami provided me with a copy of the development plan just for reference?
I will be looking through my notes to find the date that Dennis stated it was his intent to have the tenants move. He said
he didn’t say this.
I’ll keep you posted on my contact with Dennis.
Thanks,
Marge
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
This message, including any attachments, contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. Any disclosure, copying, or
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Right of Way Services is strictly prohibited.
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:24 AM
To:Tami Merriman; Patrick Hughes
Cc:Leslie Findlay; Cody Colt
Subject:RE: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly 8.6.2020
Thank you Tami!
I appreciate your input.
Marge
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:11 AM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly 8.6.2020
Good Morning Marge
I have attached the site plan and his approval for the 50 unit apartments. The approval is based on the mobile home
being removed. If he wishes to keep the mobile home, he will have to amend his application, as the approval is based
on no residential on the north side of the property.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
360.458.8496
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:05 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly 8.6.2020
Pat,
Per our conversation yesterday and my conversation with Dennis, he did not say whether or not he had a buyer or sale
pending. He just wants the City to make him an offer. I reiterated that the City will not be making an offer at this time.
I explained that his development plan has terms that need to be adhered to, he said he may change this to 49 units, so
he can leave the mobile on the property. I believe he thinks the City would need to re-appraise the property, which
would then include the mobile and the City would have to purchase the mobile. I didn’t bring up the fact that there are
other parcels that are on our list of possible acquisition sites.
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We discussed his development plan but I said it was separate from the City’s offer but the City’s offer hinges on the
removal of the mobile. Would it be okay if Tami provided me with a copy of the development plan just for reference?
I will be looking through my notes to find the date that Dennis stated it was his intent to have the tenants move. He said
he didn’t say this.
I’ll keep you posted on my contact with Dennis.
Thanks,
Marge
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
This message, including any attachments, contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. Any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this message or the taking of any action based on it, by anyone other than the intended recipient stated herein, without the express written consent of Tierra
Right of Way Services is strictly prohibited.
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:05 AM
To:Patrick Hughes
Cc:Leslie Findlay; Cody Colt; Tami Merriman
Subject:\[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly 8.6.2020
Pat,
Per our conversation yesterday and my conversation with Dennis, he did not say whether or not he had a buyer or sale
pending. He just wants the City to make him an offer. I reiterated that the City will not be making an offer at this time.
I explained that his development plan has terms that need to be adhered to, he said he may change this to 49 units, so
he can leave the mobile on the property. I believe he thinks the City would need to re-appraise the property, which
would then include the mobile and the City would have to purchase the mobile. I didn’t bring up the fact that there are
other parcels that are on our list of possible acquisition sites.
We discussed his development plan but I said it was separate from the City’s offer but the City’s offer hinges on the
removal of the mobile. Would it be okay if Tami provided me with a copy of the development plan just for reference?
I will be looking through my notes to find the date that Dennis stated it was his intent to have the tenants move. He said
he didn’t say this.
I’ll keep you posted on my contact with Dennis.
Thanks,
Marge
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
This message, including any attachments, contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. Any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this message or the taking of any action based on it, by anyone other than the intended recipient stated herein, without the express written consent of Tierra
Right of Way Services is strictly prohibited.
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:33 PM
To:Dennis Daly; Alan Wertjes
Cc:Patrick Hughes; Brent F. Dille, Esq.; Leslie Findlay; Tami Merriman
Subject:\[External\]RE: Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly update 7.29.2020
Dennis,
The City will be meeting with me this coming Monday. I’ll address your concerns on Tuesday.
Thank you,
Marge
From: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:58 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Alan Wertjes <alan@walawps.com>
Cc: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>; Brent F. Dille, Esq. <brent@dillelaw.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-
row.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Re: Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly update 7.29.2020
Marge, regardless of Governor Inslee's Proclamation 20-19.3 I never told you the tenants would be vacating
in November. Why would I even discuss this until I had a signed
P&S agreement ? I am getting income off it and with no agreement why would I want them out in November?
That makes no sense. I don't understand how that miscommunication would even be considered . It was
brought up at one of the initial meetings that the City of Yelm might consider relocation funds they had
available. Is that still on the table?
Marge you really need to clarify yourself. Do you want me to handle the removal of the tenants and the
home? If so, there is going to be a lot more costs involved that I have no intention of paying. In my letter to
Alan I explained the costs of moving a manufactured home off of property I am sure he passed that to Brent if
not let me know
and I will fwd. you a copy This explains the procedure of taking the home off the property. If you want a bid on
the cost to remove it let me know.
I will say this one more time I need a signed P&S agreement before I can make any intelligent decisions
regarding the property. It needs to spell out what Yelm is buying.
Are they buying an Acre 1/3 with no improvements or are they buying an Acre and 1/3 with a manufactured
home and tenants If they want me to deal with the home and the tenants, I will be glad to do that but it is
going to be more expensive? The proclamation is set to expire on 10/15/2020 As soon as we come to an
agreement, I can serve the eviction notice after that date. We also need to discuss what Yelm is paying to run
their 10" or 12" through my property. Per our last discussion you showed me a bid for $387,000 to run 10"
down Walmart Way and you were going to credit me the $ 42,000 that the appraiser said the property was
worth against 1/2 of the $387,000. I am guessing that would be the "late Comers "charge from the other side
of the street. That is not going to happen.
Best
Dennis
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From: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:14 PM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Alan Wertjes <alan@walawps.com>
Cc: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>; Brent F. Dille, Esq. <brent@dillelaw.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-
row.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly update 7.29.2020
Dennis,
I received an email from Brent that Alan made contact and relayed your frustration that you have not received an offer
yet. I did have it on my calendar to make contact with you this week. Do you have an offer pending on your property?
Regarding the offer, I have not completed the necessary paperwork to submit for internal review before we send it to
Pat/City of Yelm for their review. Question-do you still have a tenant in the mobile home? We discussed at our meetings
that the tenants were vacating in November. You and I discussed recently that you could not ask the tenants to move
due to the Covid-19 guidelines. We need to know what the status is with the tenants.
Thanks,
Marge
(Tami, you were included in the email from Brent. If you do not want to be kept in the loop, please let me know.)
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
This message, including any attachments, contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. Any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this message or the taking of any action based on it, by anyone other than the intended recipient stated herein, without the express written consent of Tierra
Right of Way Services is strictly prohibited.
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:42 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly update 7.29.2020
Tami,
Great, I will keep you included.
Take care,
Marge
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:22 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly update 7.29.2020
Hi Marge
Thanks for asking. It is very helpful for me to be included, as I am the contact for those wishing to purchase, and want
development info from the City.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
360.458.8496
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:14 PM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Alan Wertjes <alan@walawps.com>
Cc: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>; Brent F. Dille, Esq. <brent@dillelaw.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-
row.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly update 7.29.2020
Dennis,
I received an email from Brent that Alan made contact and relayed your frustration that you have not received an offer
yet. I did have it on my calendar to make contact with you this week. Do you have an offer pending on your property?
Regarding the offer, I have not completed the necessary paperwork to submit for internal review before we send it to
Pat/City of Yelm for their review. Question-do you still have a tenant in the mobile home? We discussed at our meetings
that the tenants were vacating in November. You and I discussed recently that you could not ask the tenants to move
due to the Covid-19 guidelines. We need to know what the status is with the tenants.
Thanks,
Marge
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(Tami, you were included in the email from Brent. If you do not want to be kept in the loop, please let me know.)
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:40 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Yup, that’s probably the route we’ll take for now. Again, I’ll let you know.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:39 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Yah, I know how that goes.
I think we forge forward with Dennis and if Andrew reappears we worry about it then.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
360.458.8496
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:30 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
th
OK, will do. As I said, Andrew told me on July 13 that he intended to make an offer to Dennis very soon, like, within the
next 24 hours. Now suddenly… nothing.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
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www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:27 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
I have spoken with Andrew, and forwarded him to you to find out the status of the land transfer, as I hadn’t heard
anything for some time. I haven’t spoken with him since then. Keep me in the loop if you don’t mind. I frequently get
calls regarding property for sale, and it’s helpful to know status.
Thanks Pat
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
360.458.8496
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:23 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Actually, I don’t think I will need you for this first discussion. We are just going to “strategize” whether or not we want
to make an offer to Dennis, or wait. I will definitely let you know what we’re thinking.
BTW, have you heard anything from Marathon Development?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:20 PM
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To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Pat, I am in meetings from 1:30 – 4 tomorrow, otherwise can be available when you need.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
360.458.8496
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: Brent F. Dille, Esq. <brent@dillelaw.com>
Cc: Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com) <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Tami
Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Brent:
I think it would be good if you, Marge and I had a quick phone huddle. Things are changing. Quickly.
th
I received a call on July 13 from a potential developer (Andrew Montero of Marathon Development) who indicated to
me that he intended to make an offer to Dennis Daly for the entire property. Mr. Montero indicated he would be very
willing to work with the City to split off the 1.39 acres the City needed for its new water reservoir. He also indicated he
was intending to schedule a pre-submission meeting with Community Development in the coming weeks. I told him the
rd
City was proceeding with the design and construction of the water main along Walmart Blvd. and 103 Ave. If the City
so chose, it could request reimbursement through a latecomers agreement. I gave Mr. Montero a rough estimate of his
potential cost of the water main improvements, so he could include it in his budget. I have heard nothing from him
th
since July 13.
That being said, I am not sure if we should make an offer to Dennis now, or if we wait to see what this potential
developer may offer him. I think we should talk strategy. I am available the rest of the day today, tomorrow afternoon
between 1:30 and 5:00, and all day Friday.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
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From: Brent Dille <brent@dillelaw.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:12 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com) <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody
Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Good afternoon all!
I received an email from Al Wertjes expressing his clients frustration that he’s not received an offer yet. I promised I
would follow up and give him an update.
To this end, at your convenience, could you please give me a status update that I can pass along to him?
Thank you for all your help!
Brent
Dille Law, PLLC
2010 Caton Way SW, Suite 101
Olympia, WA 98502
360-350-0270
Misspelled from my iPhone
** Please be advised I use the dictation feature associated with my email which sometimes does not properly translate
everything I say**
On Jul 2, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@yelmwa.gov> wrote:
Marge:
I just received the cost estimate for the proposed water main. This is based on the present stage of
design (currently at 30%), and is for the stretch along Walmart Blvd only. See attached. This is the best
cost estimate we have at this point.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:30 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
th
OK, will do. As I said, Andrew told me on July 13 that he intended to make an offer to Dennis very soon, like, within the
next 24 hours. Now suddenly… nothing.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:27 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
I have spoken with Andrew, and forwarded him to you to find out the status of the land transfer, as I hadn’t heard
anything for some time. I haven’t spoken with him since then. Keep me in the loop if you don’t mind. I frequently get
calls regarding property for sale, and it’s helpful to know status.
Thanks Pat
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
360.458.8496
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:23 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Actually, I don’t think I will need you for this first discussion. We are just going to “strategize” whether or not we want
to make an offer to Dennis, or wait. I will definitely let you know what we’re thinking.
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BTW, have you heard anything from Marathon Development?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:20 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Pat, I am in meetings from 1:30 – 4 tomorrow, otherwise can be available when you need.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
360.458.8496
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: Brent F. Dille, Esq. <brent@dillelaw.com>
Cc: Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com) <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Tami
Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Brent:
I think it would be good if you, Marge and I had a quick phone huddle. Things are changing. Quickly.
th
I received a call on July 13 from a potential developer (Andrew Montero of Marathon Development) who indicated to
me that he intended to make an offer to Dennis Daly for the entire property. Mr. Montero indicated he would be very
willing to work with the City to split off the 1.39 acres the City needed for its new water reservoir. He also indicated he
was intending to schedule a pre-submission meeting with Community Development in the coming weeks. I told him the
rd
City was proceeding with the design and construction of the water main along Walmart Blvd. and 103 Ave. If the City
so chose, it could request reimbursement through a latecomers agreement. I gave Mr. Montero a rough estimate of his
potential cost of the water main improvements, so he could include it in his budget. I have heard nothing from him
th
since July 13.
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That being said, I am not sure if we should make an offer to Dennis now, or if we wait to see what this potential
developer may offer him. I think we should talk strategy. I am available the rest of the day today, tomorrow afternoon
between 1:30 and 5:00, and all day Friday.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Brent Dille <brent@dillelaw.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:12 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com) <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody
Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Good afternoon all!
I received an email from Al Wertjes expressing his clients frustration that he’s not received an offer yet. I promised I
would follow up and give him an update.
To this end, at your convenience, could you please give me a status update that I can pass along to him?
Thank you for all your help!
Brent
Dille Law, PLLC
2010 Caton Way SW, Suite 101
Olympia, WA 98502
360-350-0270
Misspelled from my iPhone
** Please be advised I use the dictation feature associated with my email which sometimes does not properly translate
everything I say**
On Jul 2, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@yelmwa.gov> wrote:
Marge:
I just received the cost estimate for the proposed water main. This is based on the present stage of
design (currently at 30%), and is for the stretch along Walmart Blvd only. See attached. This is the best
cost estimate we have at this point.
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Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:23 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Actually, I don’t think I will need you for this first discussion. We are just going to “strategize” whether or not we want
to make an offer to Dennis, or wait. I will definitely let you know what we’re thinking.
BTW, have you heard anything from Marathon Development?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:20 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Pat, I am in meetings from 1:30 – 4 tomorrow, otherwise can be available when you need.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
360.458.8496
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: Brent F. Dille, Esq. <brent@dillelaw.com>
Cc: Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com) <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Tami
Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Brent:
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I think it would be good if you, Marge and I had a quick phone huddle. Things are changing. Quickly.
th
I received a call on July 13 from a potential developer (Andrew Montero of Marathon Development) who indicated to
me that he intended to make an offer to Dennis Daly for the entire property. Mr. Montero indicated he would be very
willing to work with the City to split off the 1.39 acres the City needed for its new water reservoir. He also indicated he
was intending to schedule a pre-submission meeting with Community Development in the coming weeks. I told him the
rd
City was proceeding with the design and construction of the water main along Walmart Blvd. and 103 Ave. If the City
so chose, it could request reimbursement through a latecomers agreement. I gave Mr. Montero a rough estimate of his
potential cost of the water main improvements, so he could include it in his budget. I have heard nothing from him
th
since July 13.
That being said, I am not sure if we should make an offer to Dennis now, or if we wait to see what this potential
developer may offer him. I think we should talk strategy. I am available the rest of the day today, tomorrow afternoon
between 1:30 and 5:00, and all day Friday.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Brent Dille <brent@dillelaw.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:12 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com) <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody
Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Good afternoon all!
I received an email from Al Wertjes expressing his clients frustration that he’s not received an offer yet. I promised I
would follow up and give him an update.
To this end, at your convenience, could you please give me a status update that I can pass along to him?
Thank you for all your help!
Brent
Dille Law, PLLC
2010 Caton Way SW, Suite 101
Olympia, WA 98502
360-350-0270
Misspelled from my iPhone
28
** Please be advised I use the dictation feature associated with my email which sometimes does not properly translate
everything I say**
On Jul 2, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@yelmwa.gov> wrote:
Marge:
I just received the cost estimate for the proposed water main. This is based on the present stage of
design (currently at 30%), and is for the stretch along Walmart Blvd only. See attached. This is the best
cost estimate we have at this point.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:14 PM
To:Dennis Daly; Alan Wertjes
Cc:Patrick Hughes; Brent F. Dille, Esq.; Leslie Findlay; Tami Merriman
Subject:\[External\]Yelm - SE Reservoir - #8 Daly update 7.29.2020
Dennis,
I received an email from Brent that Alan made contact and relayed your frustration that you have not received an offer
yet. I did have it on my calendar to make contact with you this week. Do you have an offer pending on your property?
Regarding the offer, I have not completed the necessary paperwork to submit for internal review before we send it to
Pat/City of Yelm for their review. Question-do you still have a tenant in the mobile home? We discussed at our meetings
that the tenants were vacating in November. You and I discussed recently that you could not ask the tenants to move
due to the Covid-19 guidelines. We need to know what the status is with the tenants.
Thanks,
Marge
(Tami, you were included in the email from Brent. If you do not want to be kept in the loop, please let me know.)
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
This message, including any attachments, contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. Any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this message or the taking of any action based on it, by anyone other than the intended recipient stated herein, without the express written consent of Tierra
Right of Way Services is strictly prohibited.
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:56 PM
To:Patrick Hughes; Brent F. Dille, Esq.
Cc:Leslie Findlay; Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Pat,
I agree we need to talk before we respond. I’m available the same times you noted below.
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: Brent F. Dille, Esq. <brent@dillelaw.com>
Cc: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Tami Merriman
<tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Brent:
I think it would be good if you, Marge and I had a quick phone huddle. Things are changing. Quickly.
th
I received a call on July 13 from a potential developer (Andrew Montero of Marathon Development) who indicated to
me that he intended to make an offer to Dennis Daly for the entire property. Mr. Montero indicated he would be very
willing to work with the City to split off the 1.39 acres the City needed for its new water reservoir. He also indicated he
was intending to schedule a pre-submission meeting with Community Development in the coming weeks. I told him the
rd
City was proceeding with the design and construction of the water main along Walmart Blvd. and 103 Ave. If the City
so chose, it could request reimbursement through a latecomers agreement. I gave Mr. Montero a rough estimate of his
potential cost of the water main improvements, so he could include it in his budget. I have heard nothing from him
th
since July 13.
That being said, I am not sure if we should make an offer to Dennis now, or if we wait to see what this potential
developer may offer him. I think we should talk strategy. I am available the rest of the day today, tomorrow afternoon
between 1:30 and 5:00, and all day Friday.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
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From: Brent Dille <brent@dillelaw.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:12 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com) <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody
Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Good afternoon all!
I received an email from Al Wertjes expressing his clients frustration that he’s not received an offer yet. I promised I
would follow up and give him an update.
To this end, at your convenience, could you please give me a status update that I can pass along to him?
Thank you for all your help!
Brent
Dille Law, PLLC
2010 Caton Way SW, Suite 101
Olympia, WA 98502
360-350-0270
Misspelled from my iPhone
** Please be advised I use the dictation feature associated with my email which sometimes does not properly translate
everything I say**
On Jul 2, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@yelmwa.gov> wrote:
Marge:
I just received the cost estimate for the proposed water main. This is based on the present stage of
design (currently at 30%), and is for the stretch along Walmart Blvd only. See attached. This is the best
cost estimate we have at this point.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To:Brent F. Dille, Esq.
Cc:Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com); Leslie Findlay; Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Brent:
I think it would be good if you, Marge and I had a quick phone huddle. Things are changing. Quickly.
th
I received a call on July 13 from a potential developer (Andrew Montero of Marathon Development) who indicated to
me that he intended to make an offer to Dennis Daly for the entire property. Mr. Montero indicated he would be very
willing to work with the City to split off the 1.39 acres the City needed for its new water reservoir. He also indicated he
was intending to schedule a pre-submission meeting with Community Development in the coming weeks. I told him the
rd
City was proceeding with the design and construction of the water main along Walmart Blvd. and 103 Ave. If the City
so chose, it could request reimbursement through a latecomers agreement. I gave Mr. Montero a rough estimate of his
potential cost of the water main improvements, so he could include it in his budget. I have heard nothing from him
th
since July 13.
That being said, I am not sure if we should make an offer to Dennis now, or if we wait to see what this potential
developer may offer him. I think we should talk strategy. I am available the rest of the day today, tomorrow afternoon
between 1:30 and 5:00, and all day Friday.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Brent Dille <brent@dillelaw.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:12 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com) <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-row.com>; Cody
Colt <CodyC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Re: Cost Estimate for Water Main Along Walmart Blvd.
Good afternoon all!
I received an email from Al Wertjes expressing his clients frustration that he’s not received an offer yet. I promised I
would follow up and give him an update.
To this end, at your convenience, could you please give me a status update that I can pass along to him?
34
Thank you for all your help!
Brent
Dille Law, PLLC
2010 Caton Way SW, Suite 101
Olympia, WA 98502
360-350-0270
Misspelled from my iPhone
** Please be advised I use the dictation feature associated with my email which sometimes does not properly translate
everything I say**
On Jul 2, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@yelmwa.gov> wrote:
Marge:
I just received the cost estimate for the proposed water main. This is based on the present stage of
design (currently at 30%), and is for the stretch along Walmart Blvd only. See attached. This is the best
cost estimate we have at this point.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Andrew Montero <amontero@marathondev.com>
Sent:Wednesday, July 15, 2020 1:00 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]Parcel #64303100500
Thanks Tami, glad I asked. Appreciate the quick response. Also as an FYI, I was able to get a hold of Pat so thank you for
getting me connected with him. Fingers crossed we can come to an agreement with the seller and get this thing moving.
Thanks!
A NDREW M ONTERO
Project Manager
O 425.233.6974 | C 425.269.5516
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12600 SE 38 St Ste. 210, Bellevue, WA 98006
www.marathondev.com
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 4:23 PM
To: Andrew Montero <amontero@marathondev.com>
Cc: Ted Johnson <tjohnson@marathondev.com>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Parcel #64303100500
Andrew
My apologies, I used the wrong formula in my spread sheet. I tried to use excel to assure my math, but date is only as
good as the input.
With respect to each residential structure, the number of ERUs and associated “base flow” (figured in cubic
feet) will be based on Table 1.
Table 1
No. Base
Type of Unit
ERUs/unit Flow
Single-family 1.00 875cf
residence
Duplex dwelling unit 1.00 875cf
Triplex dwelling unit 0.90 788cf
Fourplex dwelling unit 0.80 700cf
Residential structures 0.75 657cf
> four units
For water and sewer connection fees, here is the breakdown.
Water SDC Sewer SDC
PER UNIT PER UNIT
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Single family $6,725 $6,394
Duplex $6,725 $6,394
Triplex $6,053 $5,755
4-plex $5,380 $5,115
5+ units $5,044 $4,795
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
360.458.8496
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Andrew Montero \[mailto:amontero@marathondev.com\]
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 4:02 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Ted Johnson <tjohnson@marathondev.com>
Subject: \[External\]Parcel #64303100500
Hi Tami,
You had helped me yesterday with information on the Nisqually Landing Apartment project. In reviewing the fee
portion we were talking about $3,632/ERU for water and $3,453/ERU for sewer. You did a great job explaining all this
to me but I missed taking down the notes. Even with the 25% reduction for over 5 units, the fee schedule online shows
much higher costs for water and sewer. Would you mind reminding me how the fees work for these?
Thanks,
A NDREW M ONTERO
Project Manager
O 425.233.6974 | C 425.269.5516
th
12600 SE 38 St Ste. 210, Bellevue, WA 98006
www.marathondev.com
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Tami Merriman
From:Andrew Montero <amontero@marathondev.com>
Sent:Tuesday, July 14, 2020 4:02 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Ted Johnson
Subject:\[External\]Parcel #64303100500
Hi Tami,
You had helped me yesterday with information on the Nisqually Landing Apartment project. In reviewing the fee
portion we were talking about $3,632/ERU for water and $3,453/ERU for sewer. You did a great job explaining all this
to me but I missed taking down the notes. Even with the 25% reduction for over 5 units, the fee schedule online shows
much higher costs for water and sewer. Would you mind reminding me how the fees work for these?
Thanks,
A NDREW M ONTERO
Project Manager
O 425.233.6974 | C 425.269.5516
th
12600 SE 38 St Ste. 210, Bellevue, WA 98006
www.marathondev.com
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Tami Merriman
From:Derek McCoy
Sent:Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:12 AM
To:Muaz Yhaya
Cc:Tami Merriman; Chris Vaccaro; Grant Beck
Subject:RE: \[External\]Nisqually Landing Apartments - Follow Up
Attachments:2019.0051 NOD and Approval.pdf
Muaz,
I have attached a copy of the “Notice of Decision and Approval” for the Site Plan Review for The Nisqually
Landing Apartments to help you guide through our discussion. As you read through this NOD I would direct
you to the page below for the “Fee Schedule” that I spoke about that will give the amounts for the fees
referenced in the NOD and this email.
https://cms7.revize.com/revize/yelmwa/connect/community_development/development_charges_&_fees.php
The Nisqually Landing Apartments has been assigned City of Yelm Proj# MU 2019.0051 and the associated
Site Plan Review Application/Permit # is 2019.0346.PR006 the next steps for the project are Civil Plan Review
(CPR) and Building Life/Safety Permitting. As stated in the fee sheet CPR is $250 (deposit due at time of
submittal) + staff and consultant costs (Staff - $54 per hour, Consultant - actual cost). The additional fees will
be due at the time of CPR Approval and will need to be paid before construction approval can be issued.
For Building Permits and Fees, Yelm has adopted the fee schedule from the old Uniform Building
Code. Building values are calculated using the latest version of Building Valuation Data published by the
International Code Council. A table of these fees can be found in the “Fee Schedule”
The last section of the NOD is the CONCLUSIONS OF LAW and contain the conditions of approval for the
approval and will be a focus for Civil Plans to address. As we discussed during our phone conversation that City
of Yelm as part of a water main improvements project that is scheduled to be completed in April-May 2021 will
install the water main that is referenced in condition #3. At one time the owner was seeking an agreement to
exchange the construction of the water main improvements for the section of land that the City’s SE Reservoir
will be built on but has since decided to pursue a cash deal for the land. What the means is the developer that
ends up building Nisqually Landings will be required to pay the City of Yelm back for construction cost
through some sort of Latecomer’s Agreement.
I hope that this information is useful for you. I would also mention that the City of Yelm does schedule Pre-
Submission Meeting that typically are for proposed project in conceptual plan development prior to submission
for Land Use/Site Plan but you could request one to get all the answers you might need about taking the project
forward from its current state. If this is something your client might be interested in here is a link to the online
form to request this meeting. https://lf.yelmwa.gov/forms/Presub (If you are prompted for a username and
password, use COY for both)
Derek M. McCoy, PE, Civil Review Engineer / Project Engineer
Office 360.458.8132 Cell 253.278.2937
www.yelmwa.gov
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From: Muaz Yhaya <muaz@windermere.com>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 12:29 PM
To: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Nisqually Landing Apartments - Follow Up
Good afternoon Derek,
Thank you very much for returning my phone call yesterday about the Nisqually Landing Apartment project. It
was a pleasure to speak with you and learn more about the site. Following up on our conversation, if there's a
fee schedule associated with the project showcasing costs remaining through obtaining entitlements and
breaking ground (permit fees, hookup fees, etc.) it would be a great help. Thank you for your time and effort
with this!
Best regards,
Muaz Yhaya
Windermere Professional Partners
253-509-8401
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Wednesday, June 10, 2020 2:26 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: estimated time frames
Attachments:2020-04-13 - 30% Plans (South Segments) - 2019 Water Main Improvements.pdf
Sorry for the delay. Extremely busy day. 5 meetings done (so far).
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Yes… the water main project includes completing the loop along 103 from Grove Road to Walmart Blvd. Attached is
the 30% plan for that area.
We are shooting for bidding around Thanksgiving, with construction starting right after he holidays.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E., Public Works Program and Projects Manager
(360) 458-8499
www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 11:05 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: estimated time frames
Hi Pat
Just a couple questions, brief answers are adequate.
Does the SE Reservoir include a for waterline installation from Grove Road to new reservoir? Timeline for construction?
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Any estimate for timeline of sewer extension on 103 from Grove to Walmart Blvd?
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Are there any near future plans to replace the AC waterline in the alley between Yelm Ave and Jefferson, at
Railroad/Edwards?
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
(360) 458-8496
www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Alicia Pettibone <apettibone@rh2.com>
Sent:Friday, April 17, 2020 10:34 AM
To:Patrick Hughes; Tami Merriman
Cc:Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com); Clayton Posey
Subject:RE: \[External\]Yelm SE Reservoir Project Permitting
Copying Tami ?. See below, Tami.
Alicia Pettibone | RH2 Engineering, Inc.
O: 425.951.5436
C: 425.466.6727
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 10:24 AM
To: Alicia Pettibone <apettibone@rh2.com>
Cc: Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com) <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Clayton Posey <cposey@rh2.com>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Yelm SE Reservoir Project Permitting
Hi, Tami:
Let me know if you need any information from me on the below inquiry.
Just as an update for you… I did speak with Clayton Posey at RH2 last week, but have been holding off on kicking off the
final design until we come to an agreement on the property. I hope to get the final tank design started in the next
couple of months.
When I talked to Marge Bailey last week, she was going to try to get ahold of Dennis Daly to check on the status of the
tenant. I would like to keep this process moving on securing this property, as I don’t want Dennis to sell this property
before we come to some sort of a formal agreement. I am about to pull the trigger on the short plat (which I will not
record until after we have a signed agreement, and also after the tenant has vacated the property). Accordingly, I think I
will need your assistance in drafting an agreement.
rd
We are now under design for the water main along Walmart Blvd. and 103. Construction is planned for later this fall.
Marge: Give me a call or shoot me an email if you hear back from Dennis.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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From: Alicia Pettibone <apettibone@rh2.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:58 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>; Clayton Posey <cposey@rh2.com>; Jenny Sandifer <jsandifer@rh2.com>
Subject: \[External\]Yelm SE Reservoir Project Permitting
Hi Tami,
Our engineering firm, RH2 Engineering, Inc., or RH2, is working with Pat Hughes on the City’s SE Reservoir project. Pat
suggested we reach out to you as you have some background already on the project and site. The project would involve
constructing a new water storage reservoir on the northern portion of parcel no. 64303100500. Other accessory
improvements could include a small electrical/control building (may be able to reuse existing garage and storage shed
onsite), stormwater pond, asphalt access roadway around the reservoir, and valve (valve and meter housing). The City is
in the process of acquiring this property now. We’ve looked into available Code and mapping resources and below is a
list of what we anticipate. Could you provide some feedback on that list, nuances of permit submittal, timing, etc.
SEPA
Special Use Permit (applied for under "Site Plan Review")
Critical Areas Review (for high groundwater hazard areas which are shown within proximity of the reservoir
on County data (attached) and potential associated wetlands) – Presumably CA review occurs under the
“Site Plan Review” concurrently with Special Use Permit, is this correct?
Civil Plan Review
Commercial Building Permit & Demolition Permit (same online application form)
A few specific questions for you regarding the site, as well:
Is a frequently flooded areas review required for areas mapped as high groundwater hazard areas even if no
disturbance to those areas is proposed?
o
What if stormwater infiltration from the storm pond is proposed to discharge to those areas? We noted the
Code says: The bottom of any infiltration facility for stormwater discharge shall be located at least six feet
above the base flood elevation
(https://www.codepublishing.com/WA/Yelm/#!/Yelm18/Yelm1821.html#18.21.080).
The NWI mapping and our review of aerial images, as well as the high groundwater hazard mapping indicates
there may have been a historic drainage across the parcel and wetland habitat may be present? Should we
assume a reconnaissance of the site is required within 300’?
Assuming any work associated with such a reconnaissance would also need a report written that meets Code
requirements?
The City’s Code references the 1997 WA State Wetland Identification and Delineation Manual for wetland
delineation. Can we use the Corps manual and regional supplement, which are more consistent with current
methodology to delineate wetlands?
Similar to the above, buffers for wetlands are depending on scores from the 2004 rating system. Can we convert
to the 2014 Rating System for this? Or can we use that more current manual straight?
If it would be easier to discuss over the phone, let me know. Thanks much and best wishes,
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Alicia Pettibone
Environmental Project Manager | RH2 Engineering, Inc.
th
22722 29 Drive SE, STE 210
Bothell, WA 98021
O: 425.951.5436
C: 425.466.6727
apettibone@rh2.com
www.rh2.com
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Tami Merriman
From:Alicia Pettibone <apettibone@rh2.com>
Sent:Friday, April 17, 2020 9:17 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Jenny Sandifer
Subject:RE: \[External\]Yelm SE Reservoir Project Permitting
Thank you, Tami. I was not aware there was a multi-family development proposal also on that property. I’ll take a look at
all the materials and will get back to you with questions. Appreciate your help,
Alicia Pettibone | RH2 Engineering, Inc.
O: 425.951.5436
C: 425.466.6727
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 12:52 PM
To: Alicia Pettibone <apettibone@rh2.com>
Subject: RE: \[External\]Yelm SE Reservoir Project Permitting
Hi Alicia
Please see below. I think this should help you get started.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Alicia Pettibone <apettibone@rh2.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:58 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>; Clayton Posey <cposey@rh2.com>; Jenny Sandifer <jsandifer@rh2.com>
Subject: \[External\]Yelm SE Reservoir Project Permitting
Hi Tami,
Our engineering firm, RH2 Engineering, Inc., or RH2, is working with Pat Hughes on the City’s SE Reservoir project. Pat
suggested we reach out to you as you have some background already on the project and site. The project would involve
constructing a new water storage reservoir on the northern portion of parcel no. 64303100500. Other accessory
improvements could include a small electrical/control building (may be able to reuse existing garage and storage shed
onsite), stormwater pond, asphalt access roadway around the reservoir, and valve (valve and meter housing). The City is
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in the process of acquiring this property now. We’ve looked into available Code and mapping resources and below is a
list of what we anticipate. Could you provide some feedback on that list, nuances of permit submittal, timing, etc.
SEPA Yes, as part of special use permit.
Special Use Permit (applied for under "Site Plan Review") Yes, it is a special use in the residential zone.
Critical Areas Review (for high groundwater hazard areas which are shown within proximity of the reservoir
on County data (attached) and potential associated wetlands) – Presumably CA review occurs under the
“Site Plan Review” concurrently with Special Use Permit, is this correct? Yes. In this instance, the main item
to assure is that any stormwater facility is located 6’ above HGW elevation.
Civil Plan Review Yes, civil plans should be submitted no earlier than SEPA determination to assure site plan
requires no substantive changes.
Commercial Building Permit & Demolition Permit (same online application form) Yes, may be applied for and
reviewed concurrently with civil plans.
A few specific questions for you regarding the site, as well:
Is a frequently flooded areas review required for areas mapped as high groundwater hazard areas even if no
disturbance to those areas is proposed? No, as long as development stays 50 feet vertical or 6 feet horizontal from
HGW elevation.
o
What if stormwater infiltration from the storm pond is proposed to discharge to those areas? We noted the
Code says: The bottom of any infiltration facility for stormwater discharge shall be located at least six feet
above the base flood elevation
(https://www.codepublishing.com/WA/Yelm/#!/Yelm18/Yelm1821.html#18.21.080). Stormwater should
not discharge to HGW.
The NWI mapping and our review of aerial images, as well as the high groundwater hazard mapping indicates
there may have been a historic drainage across the parcel and wetland habitat may be present? Should we
assume a reconnaissance of the site is required within 300’? Probably not. We can refer to and use the
documentation from the apartment approval to base whether additional CA work should be done.
Assuming any work associated with such a reconnaissance would also need a report written that meets Code
requirements? Yes
The City’s Code references the 1997 WA State Wetland Identification and Delineation Manual for wetland
delineation. Can we use the Corps manual and regional supplement, which are more consistent with current
methodology to delineate wetlands? See page 3 of NOD and Approval
Similar to the above, buffers for wetlands are depending on scores from the 2004 rating system. Can we convert
to the 2014 Rating System for this? Or can we use that more current manual straight? See page 3 of NOD and
Approval
If it would be easier to discuss over the phone, let me know. Thanks much and best wishes,
Alicia Pettibone
Environmental Project Manager | RH2 Engineering, Inc.
th
22722 29 Drive SE, STE 210
Bothell, WA 98021
O: 425.951.5436
C: 425.466.6727
apettibone@rh2.com
www.rh2.com
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Tami Merriman
From:Alicia Pettibone <apettibone@rh2.com>
Sent:Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:58 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Patrick Hughes; Clayton Posey; Jenny Sandifer
Subject:\[External\]Yelm SE Reservoir Project Permitting
Attachments:ThurstonCoMapper.pdf
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Due By:Thursday, April 16, 2020 8:00 AM
Flag Status:Completed
Hi Tami,
Our engineering firm, RH2 Engineering, Inc., or RH2, is working with Pat Hughes on the City’s SE Reservoir project. Pat
suggested we reach out to you as you have some background already on the project and site. The project would involve
constructing a new water storage reservoir on the northern portion of parcel no. 64303100500. Other accessory
improvements could include a small electrical/control building (may be able to reuse existing garage and storage shed
onsite), stormwater pond, asphalt access roadway around the reservoir, and valve (valve and meter housing). The City is
in the process of acquiring this property now. We’ve looked into available Code and mapping resources and below is a
list of what we anticipate. Could you provide some feedback on that list, nuances of permit submittal, timing, etc.
SEPA
Special Use Permit (applied for under "Site Plan Review")
Critical Areas Review (for high groundwater hazard areas which are shown within proximity of the reservoir
on County data (attached) and potential associated wetlands) – Presumably CA review occurs under the
“Site Plan Review” concurrently with Special Use Permit, is this correct?
Civil Plan Review
Commercial Building Permit & Demolition Permit (same online application form)
A few specific questions for you regarding the site, as well:
Is a frequently flooded areas review required for areas mapped as high groundwater hazard areas even if no
disturbance to those areas is proposed?
o
What if stormwater infiltration from the storm pond is proposed to discharge to those areas? We noted the
Code says: The bottom of any infiltration facility for stormwater discharge shall be located at least six feet
above the base flood elevation
(https://www.codepublishing.com/WA/Yelm/#!/Yelm18/Yelm1821.html#18.21.080).
The NWI mapping and our review of aerial images, as well as the high groundwater hazard mapping indicates
there may have been a historic drainage across the parcel and wetland habitat may be present? Should we
assume a reconnaissance of the site is required within 300’?
Assuming any work associated with such a reconnaissance would also need a report written that meets Code
requirements?
The City’s Code references the 1997 WA State Wetland Identification and Delineation Manual for wetland
delineation. Can we use the Corps manual and regional supplement, which are more consistent with current
methodology to delineate wetlands?
Similar to the above, buffers for wetlands are depending on scores from the 2004 rating system. Can we convert
to the 2014 Rating System for this? Or can we use that more current manual straight?
If it would be easier to discuss over the phone, let me know. Thanks much and best wishes,
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Alicia Pettibone
Environmental Project Manager | RH2 Engineering, Inc.
th
22722 29 Drive SE, STE 210
Bothell, WA 98021
O: 425.951.5436
C: 425.466.6727
apettibone@rh2.com
www.rh2.com
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Tami Merriman
From:Brent Dille <brent@dillelaw.com>
Sent:Monday, March 16, 2020 4:05 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:\[External\]Nisqually Landing Draft Motion to Dismiss
Attachments:Motion to Dismiss (Nisqually Landing) 3.16.20.docx
Hi Tami!
Here is a real rough draft for your to complete concerning the dismissal of the Daly appeal. Please call or email me with
any questions or if I can be of any further help.
Best,
Brent
Brent F. Dille, Esq.
DILLE LAW, PLLC
2010 Caton Way SW, Suite 101
Olympia, Washington 98502
Office: 360-350-0270
Direct: 360-489-0727
Facsimile: 844-210-4503
Email: brent@dillelaw.com
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Tami Merriman
From:Brent Dille <brent@dillelaw.com>
Sent:Monday, March 9, 2020 2:27 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:\[External\]RE: Motion for Summary Judgment
Will do Tami!
Best regards,
Brent
Brent F. Dille, Esq.
DILLE LAW, PLLC
2010 Caton Way SW, Suite 101
Olympia, Washington 98502
Office: 360-350-0270
Direct: 360-489-0727
Facsimile: 844-210-4503
Email: brent@dillelaw.com
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 2:25 PM
To: Brent Dille <brent@dillelaw.com>
Subject: Motion for Summary Judgment
Hi Brent
We recently issued a site plan approval for a 50 unit apartment complex. The applicant, through his attorney filed for an
appeal, however it was incomplete. I responded with a letter, and date for reply, and we have had no response. I need
to prepare a motion for summary judgment for our hearing examiner.
Can you provide me the correct language to use, and I can fill in the pertinent information?
I have included the approval, appeal and my reply to give you some background.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Monday, February 10, 2020 12:30 PM
To:Leslie Findlay
Cc:Marge Bailey; Tami Merriman
Subject:Daly Property - SE Reservoir
Thanks for the information, Leslie. Much appreciated.
It is the intention of the City NOT to close on the property until the tenant is off the property. The City does not want to
be a landlord, and we do not want to incur any relocation costs.
As I explained to Marge, the City is in no hurry to close on this property, as we are not planning to construct the water
reservoir on this parcel until sometime in 2021 (we will begin engineering design later this year).
So as not to hold up the process for the Owner, we are willing to proceed with the land division (short plat) at our
cost. But what I’m not clear on is whether land division (platting) is required before Community Development can
approve the Owner’s development plans. I will try to discuss this with Tami Merriman in C.D. while I’m at City Hall this
afternoon, and let both you and Marge what I find out.
More later…
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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From: Leslie Findlay \[mailto:lfindlay@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 6:54 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Subject: \[External\]Yelm - Daly Relocation
Pat,
I understand from Marge that there is a manufactured home on the property occupied by tenants. Washington State
law considers the occupants of that home displaced individuals and eligible for relocation assistance, no matter your
funding source. Because it is not federally funded however, there is no oversight of this process. As an owner of a
property that is being sold voluntarily to an agency and meets the definition below under WAC 468.100.101, the tenants
of that property become eligible once there is mutual acceptance between parties. Unlike a typical situation where the
occupants of the property become eligible when the offer is made, voluntary situations are upon mutual acceptance.
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If there are tenants on the parcel when the offer is made, we would typically inform them of the project and let them
know if the owner and the buyer come to a mutual agreement they would be eligible for relocation entitlements and we
would assist them with finding a replacement location to move to.
I just wanted to give you a heads up and provide you the laws and information that come into play now that a parcel has
been selected and appraised. If this is something you’d like us to perform, I can draft an amendment to the scope and
budget to address the fees for this service. Not knowing the occupants situation, the cost of the relocation itself is
unknown at this time.
Applicable laws:
WAC 468-100-101 Applicability of acquisition requirements. General:
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, the requirements of RCW 8.26.180 through 8.26.200 apply to any agency
acquisition of real property for a program or project where the agency's program or project is carried out under threat of
eminent domain including amicable agreements. Whether or not the acquiring agency has or intends to use the power of
eminent domain, the requirements of RCW 8.26.180 through 8.26.200 apply to any project or program where there is an
intended, planned, or designated project area, and all, or substantially all, of the property within that area is eventually
intended to be acquired.
(2) Provided it does not conflict with subsection (1) of this section, an agency may determine that the requirements of RCW
8.26.180 through 8.26.200 do not apply to: (a) Voluntary transactions (defined in WAC 468-100-002(33)) if all of the following
conditions are present:
(i) No specific site or property needs to be acquired, although the agency may limit its search for alternative sites to a
general geographic area.
(ii) The property to be acquired is not part of an intended, planned, or designated project area where all, or substantially all,
of the property within the area is eventually to be acquired.
(iii) The agency will not acquire the property in the event negotiations fail to result in an amicable agreement, and the owner
is so informed in writing. (b) The acquisition of real property from a federal, state, or local public agency, if the acquiring
agency does not have the authority to acquire the property through condemnation. (3) In those situations where an agency
wishes to purchase more than one site within a geographic area on a "voluntary transaction" basis, all owners shall be
treated similarly.
WAC 468.100.002 (9) Displaced person: (a) General: Means any person who moves from the real property or moves his or her
personal property from the real property. This includes a person who occupies the real property prior to its acquisition, but who does
not meet the length of occupancy requirements of the Uniform Act: (i) As a direct result of the agency's acquisition of, or the initiation
of negotiation for, or the acquisition of, such real property in whole or in part for a project; or (ii) As a direct result of a written order
from the acquiring agency to vacate such real property for a project; or (iii) As a direct result of the agency's acquisition of, or written
order to vacate for a project, other real property on which the person conducts a business or farm operation; or (iv) As a direct result
of a voluntary transaction by the owner pursuant to WAC 468-100-101 (2)(a), thereby displacing a tenant.
Please let me know if you have any questions and what direction you’d like to take.
Sincerely,
Leslie Findlay, SR/WA, R/W-RAC
Right of Way Operations Manager, Pacific Northwest
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
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Tami Merriman
From:Michelle Christin
Sent:Tuesday, February 4, 2020 11:53 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:Nisqually Landing Apartments
We were delivered with the appeal and payment for them today I posted as an unassigned deposit and put the letter
and receipt on your desk.
Let me know if I can do more at this time.
Michelle Christin
Administrative Assistant
City of Yelm
360-458-3244
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Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Friday, January 17, 2020 7:40 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Dennis Daly; Alan Wertjes
Subject:\[External\]RE: City of Yelm Notice of Decision and Approval for 2019.0051 Nisqually
Landing Apartments
Thank you, Tami.
I have questions in regard to the water main extension requirement. Could you help with these?
1. What happens if Dennis sells the reservoir property to the City? Would the City then be responsible for the
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103 Ave water main extension and the SR 510 main extension to/from the reservoir?
2. What happens if DOT builds-out the frontage prior to Dennis’ project being constructed?
3. Most of the conditions listed in the approval letter include code citations, but the water main extension
condition does not. Where is it stated in code that Dennis should be responsible for the full cost of a 10” water
main, of which only a fraction of the length, and a much smaller fraction of the capacity, will benefit Dennis’
project?
Nick Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 4:16 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: City of Yelm Notice of Decision and Approval for 2019.0051 Nisqually Landing Apartments
Click here to view the Notice of Decision and Approval for 2019.0051 Nisqually Landing Apartments.
Please contact me if you have any questions.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
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City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Tami Merriman
Sent:Thursday, January 16, 2020 4:16 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:City of Yelm Notice of Decision and Approval for 2019.0051 Nisqually Landing
Apartments
Click here to view the Notice of Decision and Approval for 2019.0051 Nisqually Landing Apartments.
Please contact me if you have any questions.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Derek McCoy
Sent:Wednesday, January 15, 2020 2:39 PM
To:Patrick Hughes; Bill VanBuskirk; Steve Clark
Cc:Tony Edwards; Tami Merriman; John Ivey
Subject:RE: CDD - PW Review Huddle Attendance Request for Nisqually Apartments Site Plan
Approval
Pat,
This meeting will be in the PW Conference Room at 2pm, the usual meeting time. Since Bill will be able to attend it
should be ok.
Derek M. McCoy, P.E.
Community and Economic Development - Civil Review Engineer
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City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Office: (360) 458-8132 | Cell: (253) 278-2937
Email: derekm@yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 1:11 PM
To: Bill VanBuskirk <BillV@Yelmwa.gov>; Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Tony Edwards <TonyE@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; John Ivey <JohnI@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: CDD - PW Review Huddle Attendance Request for Nisqually Apartments Site Plan Approval
When and where is this meeting?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Bill VanBuskirk
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:27 AM
To: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>; Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Tony Edwards <TonyE@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; John Ivey <JohnI@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: CDD - PW Review Huddle Attendance Request for Nisqually Apartments Site Plan Approval
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I’ll show up with Tony
From: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:23 AM
To: Bill VanBuskirk <BillV@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>; Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Tony Edwards <TonyE@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; John Ivey <JohnI@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: CDD - PW Review Huddle Attendance Request for Nisqually Apartments Site Plan Approval
Bill / Steve / Pat,
As you are aware I have a standing meeting set up to go over various common topics of interest for CDD & PW. Of late
this has really only required Tony, John, and myself but tomorrow if you are available I would like for one or all of you to
attend.
Tami has been working on the Site Plan Approval for the Nisqually Apartments and wants to be sure that what we will be
requiring for Sewer extension will be in line with the current General Sewer Plan and be advantageous for the City and
Developer a like. Tami will be attending to help explain what questions CDD has after reviewing the GSP.
Derek M. McCoy, P.E.
Community and Economic Development - Civil Review Engineer
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Office: (360) 458-8132 | Cell: (253) 278-2937
Email: derekm@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Derek McCoy
Sent:Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:23 AM
To:Bill VanBuskirk; Steve Clark; Patrick Hughes
Cc:Tony Edwards; Tami Merriman; John Ivey
Subject:CDD - PW Review Huddle Attendance Request for Nisqually Apartments Site Plan
Approval
Bill / Steve / Pat,
As you are aware I have a standing meeting set up to go over various common topics of interest for CDD & PW. Of late
this has really only required Tony, John, and myself but tomorrow if you are available I would like for one or all of you to
attend.
Tami has been working on the Site Plan Approval for the Nisqually Apartments and wants to be sure that what we will be
requiring for Sewer extension will be in line with the current General Sewer Plan and be advantageous for the City and
Developer a like. Tami will be attending to help explain what questions CDD has after reviewing the GSP.
Derek M. McCoy, P.E.
Community and Economic Development - Civil Review Engineer
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Office: (360) 458-8132 | Cell: (253) 278-2937
Email: derekm@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Monday, January 6, 2020 8:14 AM
To:Tami Merriman; Dennis Daly; Alan Wertjes
Subject:RE: \[External\]RE: City of Yelm MDNS 2019.0345.EN0003
Sounds great. Thanks Tami.
Nick Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 8:13 AM
To: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Alan Wertjes
<alan@walawps.com>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: City of Yelm MDNS 2019.0345.EN0003
Nick
My draft approval has been circulated to our site plan review committee for comments. I hope to be issue the approval
within the next few days.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 1:28 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Alan Wertjes <alan@walawps.com>
Subject: \[External\]RE: City of Yelm MDNS 2019.0345.EN0003
Hello Tami,
Do you know when the final decision will be made on site plan review for Dennis’ project?
Nick Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
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From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 7:13 AM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>; Alan Wertjes
<alan@walawps.com>
Subject: FW: City of Yelm MDNS 2019.0345.EN0003
Hello All
I am not sure if my email went through. Had some issues, so I am resending just to be sure.
Apologies if this is duplicate.
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Click here to review the MDNS for Nisqually Landing Apartments at 17021 103 Ave SE, Yelm, WA.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 1:46 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: City of Yelm MDNS 2019.0345.EN0003
rd
Click here to review the MDNS for Nisqually Landing Apartments at 17021 103 Ave SE, Yelm, WA.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Friday, December 27, 2019 1:28 PM
To:Tami Merriman; Dennis Daly; Alan Wertjes
Subject:\[External\]RE: City of Yelm MDNS 2019.0345.EN0003
Hello Tami,
Do you know when the final decision will be made on site plan review for Dennis’ project?
Nick Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 7:13 AM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>; Alan Wertjes
<alan@walawps.com>
Subject: FW: City of Yelm MDNS 2019.0345.EN0003
Hello All
I am not sure if my email went through. Had some issues, so I am resending just to be sure.
Apologies if this is duplicate.
rd
Click here to review the MDNS for Nisqually Landing Apartments at 17021 103 Ave SE, Yelm, WA.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 1:46 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: City of Yelm MDNS 2019.0345.EN0003
rd
Click here to review the MDNS for Nisqually Landing Apartments at 17021 103 Ave SE, Yelm, WA.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
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Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:54 PM
To:Gary Letzring
Cc:Tami Merriman; Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com)
Subject:RE: Yelm Reservoir SE Short Plat Proposal
Thanks for putting this together, Gary.
I just met with our Community Development folks earlier today. We are expecting the property appraisal to arrive by
the end of December. Based on that appraisal, we will be comparing the property value vs. the cost of the required
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utility improvements along Walmart Blvd. and 103 Ave. The City is proposing to construct these utility improvements
(which a future Developer would be required to build), in exchange for the property.
Accordingly, I’d like to hold off on authorizing the go-ahead on preparing the short plat until we’ve had a chance to
review the appraisal, and come up with a draft agreement that satisfies both the City and the property owner. Simply
stated, we’d like to hammer out the details of the agreement before we proceed further. Your proposed 8-week
preparation timeframe should not be an issue.
I’ll keep you posted in the coming weeks, as I expect things to move along quicker.
Yes, I had a great Thanksgiving holiday. If I don’t talk with you sooner, you have a Merry Christmas!
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Gary Letzring \[mailto:garyl@sittshill.com\]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 6:58 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]Yelm Reservoir SE Short Plat Proposal
Hi Pat,
I hope you had a great Thanksgiving Holiday!
Based on our prior conversations, I put together the attached Short Plat Proposal.
Please review and let me know if you have any questions, comments or concerns.
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Thank you,
Gary Letzring, P.L.S. - Senior Project Surveyor
SITTS & HILL ENGINEERS, INC.
CIVIL - STRUCTURAL - SURVEYING
4815 CENTER STREET, TACOMA, WA 98409
PHONE: (253) 474-9449 ext.344
EMAIL: garyl@sittshill.com
http://www.sittshill.com/
Please note, we have a new web address and I have a new e-mail address!
Please update your contact information accordingly.
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Thursday, December 12, 2019 1:48 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: 120 day ends January 22, 2020
Yes, I would agree. Is that something you would request of Dennis?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 1:46 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: 120 day ends January 22, 2020
Hi Pat
My 120 time period to issue approval is over on January 22, 2020. While there is no great urgency today, I think that we
should, as part of property negotiations, request an extension of the review period so that we are all covered.
July 9, 2019 - Application submitted
July 18, 2019 - Application deemed complete 120 day review period begins.
August 14, 2019 Request for additional information. Time clock stops (27 days)
October 22, 2019 New documentation submitted, environmental review reestablished, time clock restarts (28 days)
January 22, 2020 End of 120 day review period.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
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Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Thursday, December 12, 2019 11:06 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: Nisqually Landing Apartments
Yeah, it would probably best if you came over here, as I have all the documents, maps, etc.
Come any time.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 10:57 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Nisqually Landing Apartments
Do you want me to come there? I am open all day as well.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 10:55 AM
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To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Nisqually Landing Apartments
Sure. I am open all day today, except for the Public Works Committee from 4:00 to 5:00. When is a good time to stop
over?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 10:53 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Nisqually Landing Apartments
Hi Pat
Wondering if you have time today or tomorrow to have a discussion.
I have a draft approval ready, but wonder how much of the land trade/water line thing should be included in the staff
report?
Also, I think we should have a discussion about installing the sewer line at the same time or as part of the sr510
improvement?
If you could take a look at my staff report, and think about if we should include Steve and Grant before I send the draft
out for internal review?
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:ECY RE SWRO SEPA COORDINATOR <swrosepacoordinator@ECY.WA.GOV>
Sent:Friday, November 15, 2019 11:42 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Meyer, Zachary (ECY); Metcalfe, Jacquelyn (ECY); Montague-Breakwell, Chris (ECY);
Rockett, Derek (ECY); Middleton, Thomas (ECY); ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Subject:\[External\]ECY SEPA 201906268 - Nisqually Landing Apartments - Comments
Attachments:201906268 ECY Comments.pdf
Importance:High
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner for Grant Beck, City of Yelm Community Development Director:
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the Nisqually Landing Apartments Project (Lead Agency File
No(s). 2019.0345.EN0003). Ecology’s comments are attached.
\[ Statewide SEPA Register No. 201906268 \]
Have a great day,
Morgan Dorner
SEPA Coordinator | Southwest Regional Office
P: 360-407-6313 | F: 360-407-6305
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Tami Merriman
From:Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Sent:Tuesday, November 5, 2019 7:32 AM
To:Marge Bailey; Tami Merriman; Patrick Hughes
Cc:Alan Wertjes
Subject:\[External\]Re: City of Yelm's Property acquisition, 17021 103rd St SE
No problem, thank you!
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From: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:21:12 AM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Alan Wertjes <alan@walawps.com>
Subject: Re: City of Yelm's Property acquisition, 17021 103rd St SE
Dennis,
My apologies for the delayed response! All correspondence will now include your attorney.
Thank you,
Marge R. Bailey
(253) 439-7143
From: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 10:20:02 AM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Patrick Hughes
<Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Alan Wertjes <alan@walawps.com>
Subject: City of Yelm's Property acquisition, 17021 103rd St SE
Please let this serve as notice that I will be represented in this matter by Alan J. Wertjes of the Wertjes Law
Group P.S. Please copy them any correspondence.
Alan Wertjes : alan @walawps.com
Wertjes Law Group P.S.
321 Cleveland Ave Suite 201
Tumwater WA 98501
PH 360 -570- 7488
Thank you
Dennis Daly
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Tuesday, November 5, 2019 6:21 AM
To:Dennis Daly; Tami Merriman; Patrick Hughes
Cc:Alan Wertjes
Subject:\[External\]Re: City of Yelm's Property acquisition, 17021 103rd St SE
Dennis,
My apologies for the delayed response! All correspondence will now include your attorney.
Thank you,
Marge R. Bailey
(253) 439-7143
From: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 10:20:02 AM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Patrick Hughes
<Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Alan Wertjes <alan@walawps.com>
Subject: City of Yelm's Property acquisition, 17021 103rd St SE
Please let this serve as notice that I will be represented in this matter by Alan J. Wertjes of the Wertjes Law
Group P.S. Please copy them any correspondence.
Alan Wertjes : alan @walawps.com
Wertjes Law Group P.S.
321 Cleveland Ave Suite 201
Tumwater WA 98501
PH 360 -570- 7488
Thank you
Dennis Daly
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Tami Merriman
From:Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Sent:Saturday, November 2, 2019 10:20 AM
To:Marge Bailey; Tami Merriman; Patrick Hughes
Cc:Alan Wertjes
Subject:\[External\]City of Yelm's Property acquisition, 17021 103rd St SE
Please let this serve as notice that I will be represented in this matter by Alan J. Wertjes of the Wertjes Law
Group P.S. Please copy them any correspondence.
Alan Wertjes : alan @walawps.com
Wertjes Law Group P.S.
321 Cleveland Ave Suite 201
Tumwater WA 98501
PH 360 -570- 7488
Thank you
Dennis Daly
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:50 AM
To:Patrick Hughes; Dennis Daly
Cc:Tami Merriman; Steve Clark
Subject:RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat,
Thank you! I’ll be there.
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:43 AM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Marge:
Sorry if the invite didn’t come though. Yes, we are planning to meet at 1:00 tomorrow (Friday) at 1:00 in the City Hall
conference room.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:08 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat, Dennis:
I haven’t received confirmation that we are meeting tomorrow at 1:00pm. I tried calling Dennis a few minutes ago, the
phone rang then went silent. Are we meeting tomorrow?
Thanks,
Marge
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From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:58 PM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Steve Clark
<SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Dennis:
If this Friday works for you, I would propose meeting at 1:00 pm in the City Hall conference room.
Tami: Can you tentatively reserve the conference room for this Friday at 1:00? I don’t have that permission.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:50 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Friday is open for me as well
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:41 PM
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To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Friday works good for me. Tami & Dennis: How about you?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:40 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat,
I’m available Wednesday afternoon, Thursday I can meet 9am-1pm, Friday is open.
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:31 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Marge:
I’d like to set up a meeting with you, the Property Owner (Dennis), our Planning Department (Tami) and our Interim
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Public Works Director (Steve Clark) to continue the discussion of the “offer” for the 103 Ave. property for construction
of our SE Reservoir project. Items of importance are:
Division/Platting of the land
Existing residence on site
Memorandum of Understanding / Offer Letter
Schedule
Let me know what works for you. Right now, this Wednesday afternoon, most of the day Thursday, and all day this
Friday are open. Most of next week looks good, too, except for a couple of meetings on Tuesday (11/5).
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Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:49 AM
To:Tami Merriman; Patrick Hughes; Dennis Daly
Cc:Steve Clark
Subject:RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Great, thank you!
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:41 AM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>; Dennis Daly
<dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Hi Marge
I have reserved the conference room. I believe that Pat and Dennis will be there. Steve Clark will not be able to make it.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:08 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat, Dennis:
I haven’t received confirmation that we are meeting tomorrow at 1:00pm. I tried calling Dennis a few minutes ago, the
phone rang then went silent. Are we meeting tomorrow?
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:58 PM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Steve Clark
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<SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Dennis:
If this Friday works for you, I would propose meeting at 1:00 pm in the City Hall conference room.
Tami: Can you tentatively reserve the conference room for this Friday at 1:00? I don’t have that permission.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:50 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Friday is open for me as well
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:41 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Friday works good for me. Tami & Dennis: How about you?
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Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:40 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat,
I’m available Wednesday afternoon, Thursday I can meet 9am-1pm, Friday is open.
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:31 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Marge:
I’d like to set up a meeting with you, the Property Owner (Dennis), our Planning Department (Tami) and our Interim
rd
Public Works Director (Steve Clark) to continue the discussion of the “offer” for the 103 Ave. property for construction
of our SE Reservoir project. Items of importance are:
Division/Platting of the land
Existing residence on site
Memorandum of Understanding / Offer Letter
Schedule
Let me know what works for you. Right now, this Wednesday afternoon, most of the day Thursday, and all day this
Friday are open. Most of next week looks good, too, except for a couple of meetings on Tuesday (11/5).
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
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Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:43 AM
To:Marge Bailey; Dennis Daly
Cc:Tami Merriman; Steve Clark
Subject:RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Marge:
Sorry if the invite didn’t come though. Yes, we are planning to meet at 1:00 tomorrow (Friday) at 1:00 in the City Hall
conference room.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:08 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat, Dennis:
I haven’t received confirmation that we are meeting tomorrow at 1:00pm. I tried calling Dennis a few minutes ago, the
phone rang then went silent. Are we meeting tomorrow?
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:58 PM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Steve Clark
<SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Dennis:
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If this Friday works for you, I would propose meeting at 1:00 pm in the City Hall conference room.
Tami: Can you tentatively reserve the conference room for this Friday at 1:00? I don’t have that permission.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:50 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Friday is open for me as well
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:41 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Friday works good for me. Tami & Dennis: How about you?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
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City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:40 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat,
I’m available Wednesday afternoon, Thursday I can meet 9am-1pm, Friday is open.
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:31 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Marge:
I’d like to set up a meeting with you, the Property Owner (Dennis), our Planning Department (Tami) and our Interim
rd
Public Works Director (Steve Clark) to continue the discussion of the “offer” for the 103 Ave. property for construction
of our SE Reservoir project. Items of importance are:
Division/Platting of the land
Existing residence on site
Memorandum of Understanding / Offer Letter
Schedule
Let me know what works for you. Right now, this Wednesday afternoon, most of the day Thursday, and all day this
Friday are open. Most of next week looks good, too, except for a couple of meetings on Tuesday (11/5).
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:08 AM
To:Patrick Hughes; Dennis Daly
Cc:Tami Merriman; Steve Clark
Subject:RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat, Dennis:
I haven’t received confirmation that we are meeting tomorrow at 1:00pm. I tried calling Dennis a few minutes ago, the
phone rang then went silent. Are we meeting tomorrow?
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:58 PM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Steve Clark
<SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Dennis:
If this Friday works for you, I would propose meeting at 1:00 pm in the City Hall conference room.
Tami: Can you tentatively reserve the conference room for this Friday at 1:00? I don’t have that permission.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:50 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Friday is open for me as well
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Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:41 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Friday works good for me. Tami & Dennis: How about you?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:40 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat,
I’m available Wednesday afternoon, Thursday I can meet 9am-1pm, Friday is open.
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:31 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
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Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Marge:
I’d like to set up a meeting with you, the Property Owner (Dennis), our Planning Department (Tami) and our Interim
rd
Public Works Director (Steve Clark) to continue the discussion of the “offer” for the 103 Ave. property for construction
of our SE Reservoir project. Items of importance are:
Division/Platting of the land
Existing residence on site
Memorandum of Understanding / Offer Letter
Schedule
Let me know what works for you. Right now, this Wednesday afternoon, most of the day Thursday, and all day this
Friday are open. Most of next week looks good, too, except for a couple of meetings on Tuesday (11/5).
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
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Tami Merriman
From:Chris Vaccaro
Sent:Tuesday, October 29, 2019 11:23 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: MDNS for Nisqually Landing Apartments
Thank you Tami.
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 11:12 AM
To: Site Plan Review Committee <SPRC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: MDNS for Nisqually Landing Apartments
SPRC
Please review and provide any comments no later than Thursday October 31.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Tami Merriman
Sent:Tuesday, October 29, 2019 11:12 AM
To:Site Plan Review Committee
Subject:MDNS for Nisqually Landing Apartments
Attachments:2019.0345.EN0003 MDNS.pdf; Nisqually Landing Apartments - SEPA Checklist.pdf
SPRC
Please review and provide any comments no later than Thursday October 31.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Sent:Tuesday, October 29, 2019 10:17 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:'Dennis Daly'
Subject:\[External\]RE: setbacks
Tami,
DOT parcel 64303100501 is to the West of the project site; it is DOT property, not right-of way, thusly the site’s western
property boundary requires a side yard setback, which is 5’ per R-6 code. The eastern property boundary also requires a
side yard setback which is shown at 5’. The southern boundary requires a rear yard setback, which is 25’. And the
northern boundary is the front yard, as the property has the most frontage there.
Nick Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:49 AM
To: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Subject: setbacks
Nick
Now that you have resolved the stormwater and city sewer requirements, can you tell me how you determined your
setbacks, and how the layout meets the setback requirements of the R6 zone? Your site plan does not appear to address
this.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Monday, October 28, 2019 3:58 PM
To:Dennis Daly
Cc:Tami Merriman; Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com); Steve Clark
Subject:RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Dennis:
If this Friday works for you, I would propose meeting at 1:00 pm in the City Hall conference room.
Tami: Can you tentatively reserve the conference room for this Friday at 1:00? I don’t have that permission.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:50 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Friday is open for me as well
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:41 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Friday works good for me. Tami & Dennis: How about you?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:40 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat,
I’m available Wednesday afternoon, Thursday I can meet 9am-1pm, Friday is open.
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:31 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Marge:
I’d like to set up a meeting with you, the Property Owner (Dennis), our Planning Department (Tami) and our Interim
rd
Public Works Director (Steve Clark) to continue the discussion of the “offer” for the 103 Ave. property for construction
of our SE Reservoir project. Items of importance are:
Division/Platting of the land
Existing residence on site
Memorandum of Understanding / Offer Letter
Schedule
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Let me know what works for you. Right now, this Wednesday afternoon, most of the day Thursday, and all day this
Friday are open. Most of next week looks good, too, except for a couple of meetings on Tuesday (11/5).
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
95
Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Monday, October 28, 2019 3:41 PM
To:Marge Bailey
Cc:Dennis Daly; Tami Merriman; Steve Clark
Subject:RE: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Friday works good for me. Tami & Dennis: How about you?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:40 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: \[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat,
I’m available Wednesday afternoon, Thursday I can meet 9am-1pm, Friday is open.
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:31 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Marge:
I’d like to set up a meeting with you, the Property Owner (Dennis), our Planning Department (Tami) and our Interim
rd
Public Works Director (Steve Clark) to continue the discussion of the “offer” for the 103 Ave. property for construction
of our SE Reservoir project. Items of importance are:
Division/Platting of the land
Existing residence on site
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Memorandum of Understanding / Offer Letter
Schedule
Let me know what works for you. Right now, this Wednesday afternoon, most of the day Thursday, and all day this
Friday are open. Most of next week looks good, too, except for a couple of meetings on Tuesday (11/5).
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
97
Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Monday, October 28, 2019 3:40 PM
To:Patrick Hughes
Cc:Dennis Daly; Tami Merriman; Steve Clark
Subject:\[External\]RE: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Pat,
I’m available Wednesday afternoon, Thursday I can meet 9am-1pm, Friday is open.
Thanks,
Marge
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:31 PM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Cc: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Steve Clark <SteveC@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Marge:
I’d like to set up a meeting with you, the Property Owner (Dennis), our Planning Department (Tami) and our Interim
rd
Public Works Director (Steve Clark) to continue the discussion of the “offer” for the 103 Ave. property for construction
of our SE Reservoir project. Items of importance are:
Division/Platting of the land
Existing residence on site
Memorandum of Understanding / Offer Letter
Schedule
Let me know what works for you. Right now, this Wednesday afternoon, most of the day Thursday, and all day this
Friday are open. Most of next week looks good, too, except for a couple of meetings on Tuesday (11/5).
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Monday, October 28, 2019 3:31 PM
To:Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com)
Cc:Dennis Daly; Tami Merriman; Steve Clark
Subject:Property Acquisition for SE Reservoir
Marge:
I’d like to set up a meeting with you, the Property Owner (Dennis), our Planning Department (Tami) and our Interim
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Public Works Director (Steve Clark) to continue the discussion of the “offer” for the 103 Ave. property for construction
of our SE Reservoir project. Items of importance are:
Division/Platting of the land
Existing residence on site
Memorandum of Understanding / Offer Letter
Schedule
Let me know what works for you. Right now, this Wednesday afternoon, most of the day Thursday, and all day this
Friday are open. Most of next week looks good, too, except for a couple of meetings on Tuesday (11/5).
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
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Tami Merriman
From:Severson, Dale <SeversD@wsdot.wa.gov>
Sent:Wednesday, October 23, 2019 11:12 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Elliott, Bill
Subject:\[External\]RE: SR510 commercial access
Hi Tami,
Nice talking to your this morning. This section of SR 510 is Class 4 Managed Access highway, meaning driveways should
if at all possible be spaced 250-feet or greater apart or from an intersection. One of the sentences in the WAC 468-52-
040 Class 4 section says “Restrictive medians may be used as operational conditions warrant to mitigate turning,
weaving, and crossing conflicts.” While that sentence was more about mainline traffic, I think requiring a raised right-in
/ right-out driveway island provides the same intent and benefit. And they will have full movement access at Burnett
Road. So what your proposing is very reasonable and is in the best interests of the traffic public on both SR 510 and
Burnett Road.
Thanks
Dale Severson, P.E.
Development Services Engineer - WSDOT Olympic Region
(360) 357-2736 | dale.severson@wsdot.wa.gov
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:24 AM
To: Severson, Dale <SeversD@wsdot.wa.gov>; Elliott, Bill <ElliotB@wsdot.wa.gov>
Subject: SR510 commercial access
Good Morning Gentlemen
I wasn’t sure who I should contact, so I chose my two favorite DOT folks. If this question needs to go to someone else,
please let me know. I have Presubmission meeting next week on a parcel at the corner of SR 510 and Burnett Road. See
drawing attached. Applicants are looking constructing a coffee shop on this corner. (this is actually my second presub
for a coffee shop on this piece) There is an IT bus stop here too.
For transportation improvements, I am telling them that they will need to have a full access on Burnett (preferably as far
north as possible). As for access on SR510, I am telling them that I am going to assume that DOT will allow a right
in/right out only limited access due to no turn lane, and proximity to intersection. I believe that we would support a
deferral of frontage improvements on both SR510 & Burnett, as our transportation plan shows that this intersection
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needs to be realigned in the future. Y5A Burnett Road/93 Avenue Intersection Realignment.
My questions are if you would allow a full access?
If limited access is allowed, would you require more than a “pork chop” to deter left turns into site?
Any other “probable” improvements or limitations that you can think of?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Sent:Wednesday, October 23, 2019 8:57 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Derek McCoy; 'Dennis Daly'
Subject:RE: \[External\]RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami, thank you.
Nick Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 8:56 AM
To: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: \[External\]RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Hi Nick
The City received both emails. Derek and I will meet to review the submittal, and if looks good, get this project moving!
Thank you
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:01 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: \[External\]RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami, the plans are attached. The drainage report was sent to you in a separate email due to file size. Would you please
confirm that you received both?
Nick Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
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From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:05 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
SMMWW Section 3.3.5, Subsurface Characterization, #4 states: Monitoring through at least one wet season is
required, unless substantially equivalent site historical data regarding ground water levels is available.
Recorded flood data and high ground water analysis performed by Wal-Mart shows high ground water to be
339 – 340. The City does not agree with the assumption that the high ground water level to be 334.
The manual also states at 3.3.5 Infiltration receptor: Impact of the infiltration rate and volume at the project
site on ground water mounding, flow direction, and water table; and the discharge point or area of the
infiltrating water. Conduct a ground water mounding analysis at all sites where the depth to seasonal ground
water table or low permeability stratum is less than 15 feet from the estimated bottom elevation of the
infiltration facility, and the runoff to the infiltration facility is from more than one acre.
3.3.7 SSC-5
The base of all infiltration basins or trench systems shall be ≥5 feet above the seasonal high-water mark,
bedrock (or hardpan) or other low permeability layer. A separation down to 3 feet may be considered if the
ground water mounding analysis, volumetric receptor capacity, and the design of the overflow and/or bypass
structures are judged by the site professional to be adequate to prevent overtopping and meet the site
suitability criteria specified in this section.
We know that there is high ground water, we know that the flood elevation is at 339-340. If you are unable to
locate the bottom of the infiltration at 344 or above, then we would consider the mounding analysis to reduce
the separation level to 3 feet as stated in 3.3.7 above.
Project review is currenlty on hold for additional information. If you wish to move forward without meeting
the stormwater code, I will have to deny approval as the project does not meet City development
regualations.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 4:54 PM
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To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Since section 18.21.080G is titled “Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard
Areas”, it would seem to not apply to locations outside of the high groundwater hazard area, except for as provided in
item #3 of that section. Because the proposed infiltration facilities are not within the high groundwater hazard area,
does that not mean that section 18.21.070G does not apply to the proposed infiltration facilities? Assuming that it does
not apply to the proposed facilities it would seem that the stormwater manual would take precedence over the critical
areas code. The stormwater manual requires 5’ of separation from the seasonally high groundwater elevation without a
mounding analysis. As the measured seasonally high receptor elevation is at elevation 334, and our proposed receptor
elevation is 7’ above that, it would seem that the current design meets applicable code. How can one be asked to meet
critical areas code if not developing within a critical area or the adjacent areas that the code says it covers per the item
#3 of the cited section? Looking at the draft water tank plan that was provided to us, it looks like the City is planning to
infiltrate at elevation 341, the same as us, but about 50’ closer to the hazard area than we are. The code section cited
appears to make no allowance for infiltration within 6’ of the base flood elevation even with a mounding analysis. If it is
the City’s official position that the cited code section applies to the area where we show the drainage facilities then a
mounding analysis would seem to be useless for Dennis’ facility as well as the City’s, because City code makes no
exceptions to the 6’ rule; however, the stormwater manual does. Regardless, can review continue while we sort
through this?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 3:34 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
We reviewed the revised site plan and stormwater report. The revised proposal does not meet our
Critical Areas Code.
Section 18.21.070G. Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard Areas.
1. Flood Elevations. The base flood elevation for high ground water flood hazard areas corresponds to the elevation of the outer
edge of the high ground water flood hazard area.
2. Delineation of the Base Flood Elevation. Applicants shall submit to the approval authority hydrologic and hydrogeologic studies as
necessary to delineate the high ground water flood hazard area and the base flood elevation.
3. No development shall locate within 50 feet, measured on a horizontal plane, from the outer edge of the high ground water hazard
area or extending to a ground elevation two feet above the base flood elevation, whichever is less.
4. The bottom of any infiltration facility for stormwater discharge shall be located at least six feet above the base flood elevation.
Past flood events in 1996 and 1997 have shown that flood elevation is between elevation 339 and
340. In order to meet standard #4, any infiltration facility for stormwater is to be six feet above this
base flood elevation.
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We have in the past, accepted a mounding analysis that shows that there is no impact (less than ½
foot) on the high ground water elevation at the property lines. A final stormwater plan will need to
show the high groundwater and any infiltration gallery must meet the minimum vertical separations
required by the appropriate drainage manual.
I have attached a mounding analysis that was provided for a project in Yelm for you to take a look at.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:12 AM
To: 'ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com' <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Hi Nick
My apologies for not responding. I did receive the emails and attachments. I was slammed the first part of the week,
and out sick Thursday and Friday.
The City Engineer and I will review your documents this week.
Thanks.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:33 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: FW: Early Environmental Review Determination
Second email.
Nicholas Taylor PE
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The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Tami Merriman' <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Derek McCoy' <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Grant Beck' <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Please see attached resubmittal documents for the Nisqually Landing Apartments Site Plan Review application. In
regard to the early review comments that were provided to us:
1. High Groundwater Hazard Area – We eliminated the ponds that were within the 50’ development buffer and
replaced them with infiltration galleries in the parking lot. Please see the attached revised preliminary plans and
drainage report.
2. STEP System – We completed preliminary calculations to determine required STEP tank sizing and
quantity. Please see the attached STEP tank sizing calculations.
3. Driveway Access – We tried to contact Walmart’s store manager to discuss timing of their potential driveway
move, but were unable to obtain that information. In speaking with Bill Elliot at WSDOT, Walmart has not yet
submitted any plans or permit applications showing relocation of their entrance, and even if they choose to
relocate the entrance the proposed location of our site driveway does not inhibit them from moving their
entrance to a location that meets intersection spacing requirements. Thusly, we have left the driveway as-is.
Do you need any hardcopies?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick & Dennis
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:01 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Derek McCoy; Dennis Daly
Subject:\[External\]RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Attachments:DT01 Full Set 22x34.pdf
Tami, the plans are attached. The drainage report was sent to you in a separate email due to file size. Would you please
confirm that you received both?
Nick Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:05 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
SMMWW Section 3.3.5, Subsurface Characterization, #4 states: Monitoring through at least one wet season is
required, unless substantially equivalent site historical data regarding ground water levels is available.
Recorded flood data and high ground water analysis performed by Wal-Mart shows high ground water to be
339 – 340. The City does not agree with the assumption that the high ground water level to be 334.
The manual also states at 3.3.5 Infiltration receptor: Impact of the infiltration rate and volume at the project
site on ground water mounding, flow direction, and water table; and the discharge point or area of the
infiltrating water. Conduct a ground water mounding analysis at all sites where the depth to seasonal ground
water table or low permeability stratum is less than 15 feet from the estimated bottom elevation of the
infiltration facility, and the runoff to the infiltration facility is from more than one acre.
3.3.7 SSC-5
The base of all infiltration basins or trench systems shall be ≥5 feet above the seasonal high-water mark,
bedrock (or hardpan) or other low permeability layer. A separation down to 3 feet may be considered if the
ground water mounding analysis, volumetric receptor capacity, and the design of the overflow and/or bypass
structures are judged by the site professional to be adequate to prevent overtopping and meet the site
suitability criteria specified in this section.
We know that there is high ground water, we know that the flood elevation is at 339-340. If you are unable to
locate the bottom of the infiltration at 344 or above, then we would consider the mounding analysis to reduce
the separation level to 3 feet as stated in 3.3.7 above.
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Project review is currenlty on hold for additional information. If you wish to move forward without meeting
the stormwater code, I will have to deny approval as the project does not meet City development
regualations.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 4:54 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Since section 18.21.080G is titled “Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard
Areas”, it would seem to not apply to locations outside of the high groundwater hazard area, except for as provided in
item #3 of that section. Because the proposed infiltration facilities are not within the high groundwater hazard area,
does that not mean that section 18.21.070G does not apply to the proposed infiltration facilities? Assuming that it does
not apply to the proposed facilities it would seem that the stormwater manual would take precedence over the critical
areas code. The stormwater manual requires 5’ of separation from the seasonally high groundwater elevation without a
mounding analysis. As the measured seasonally high receptor elevation is at elevation 334, and our proposed receptor
elevation is 7’ above that, it would seem that the current design meets applicable code. How can one be asked to meet
critical areas code if not developing within a critical area or the adjacent areas that the code says it covers per the item
#3 of the cited section? Looking at the draft water tank plan that was provided to us, it looks like the City is planning to
infiltrate at elevation 341, the same as us, but about 50’ closer to the hazard area than we are. The code section cited
appears to make no allowance for infiltration within 6’ of the base flood elevation even with a mounding analysis. If it is
the City’s official position that the cited code section applies to the area where we show the drainage facilities then a
mounding analysis would seem to be useless for Dennis’ facility as well as the City’s, because City code makes no
exceptions to the 6’ rule; however, the stormwater manual does. Regardless, can review continue while we sort
through this?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 3:34 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
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Nick
We reviewed the revised site plan and stormwater report. The revised proposal does not meet our
Critical Areas Code.
Section 18.21.070G. Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard Areas.
1. Flood Elevations. The base flood elevation for high ground water flood hazard areas corresponds to the elevation of the outer
edge of the high ground water flood hazard area.
2. Delineation of the Base Flood Elevation. Applicants shall submit to the approval authority hydrologic and hydrogeologic studies as
necessary to delineate the high ground water flood hazard area and the base flood elevation.
3. No development shall locate within 50 feet, measured on a horizontal plane, from the outer edge of the high ground water hazard
area or extending to a ground elevation two feet above the base flood elevation, whichever is less.
4. The bottom of any infiltration facility for stormwater discharge shall be located at least six feet above the base flood elevation.
Past flood events in 1996 and 1997 have shown that flood elevation is between elevation 339 and
340. In order to meet standard #4, any infiltration facility for stormwater is to be six feet above this
base flood elevation.
We have in the past, accepted a mounding analysis that shows that there is no impact (less than ½
foot) on the high ground water elevation at the property lines. A final stormwater plan will need to
show the high groundwater and any infiltration gallery must meet the minimum vertical separations
required by the appropriate drainage manual.
I have attached a mounding analysis that was provided for a project in Yelm for you to take a look at.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:12 AM
To: 'ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com' <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Hi Nick
My apologies for not responding. I did receive the emails and attachments. I was slammed the first part of the week,
and out sick Thursday and Friday.
The City Engineer and I will review your documents this week.
Thanks.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
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Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:33 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: FW: Early Environmental Review Determination
Second email.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Tami Merriman' <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Derek McCoy' <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Grant Beck' <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Please see attached resubmittal documents for the Nisqually Landing Apartments Site Plan Review application. In
regard to the early review comments that were provided to us:
1. High Groundwater Hazard Area – We eliminated the ponds that were within the 50’ development buffer and
replaced them with infiltration galleries in the parking lot. Please see the attached revised preliminary plans and
drainage report.
2. STEP System – We completed preliminary calculations to determine required STEP tank sizing and
quantity. Please see the attached STEP tank sizing calculations.
3. Driveway Access – We tried to contact Walmart’s store manager to discuss timing of their potential driveway
move, but were unable to obtain that information. In speaking with Bill Elliot at WSDOT, Walmart has not yet
submitted any plans or permit applications showing relocation of their entrance, and even if they choose to
relocate the entrance the proposed location of our site driveway does not inhibit them from moving their
entrance to a location that meets intersection spacing requirements. Thusly, we have left the driveway as-is.
Do you need any hardcopies?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
111
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick & Dennis
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:00 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Derek McCoy; Dennis Daly
Subject:\[External\]RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Attachments:DT01 - Preliminary Stormwater Control Program - 2019-10-21.pdf
Tami, the updated drainage report is attached. The plans will come in a separate email.
Nick Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:05 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
SMMWW Section 3.3.5, Subsurface Characterization, #4 states: Monitoring through at least one wet season is
required, unless substantially equivalent site historical data regarding ground water levels is available.
Recorded flood data and high ground water analysis performed by Wal-Mart shows high ground water to be
339 – 340. The City does not agree with the assumption that the high ground water level to be 334.
The manual also states at 3.3.5 Infiltration receptor: Impact of the infiltration rate and volume at the project
site on ground water mounding, flow direction, and water table; and the discharge point or area of the
infiltrating water. Conduct a ground water mounding analysis at all sites where the depth to seasonal ground
water table or low permeability stratum is less than 15 feet from the estimated bottom elevation of the
infiltration facility, and the runoff to the infiltration facility is from more than one acre.
3.3.7 SSC-5
The base of all infiltration basins or trench systems shall be ≥5 feet above the seasonal high-water mark,
bedrock (or hardpan) or other low permeability layer. A separation down to 3 feet may be considered if the
ground water mounding analysis, volumetric receptor capacity, and the design of the overflow and/or bypass
structures are judged by the site professional to be adequate to prevent overtopping and meet the site
suitability criteria specified in this section.
We know that there is high ground water, we know that the flood elevation is at 339-340. If you are unable to
locate the bottom of the infiltration at 344 or above, then we would consider the mounding analysis to reduce
the separation level to 3 feet as stated in 3.3.7 above.
113
Project review is currenlty on hold for additional information. If you wish to move forward without meeting
the stormwater code, I will have to deny approval as the project does not meet City development
regualations.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 4:54 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Since section 18.21.080G is titled “Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard
Areas”, it would seem to not apply to locations outside of the high groundwater hazard area, except for as provided in
item #3 of that section. Because the proposed infiltration facilities are not within the high groundwater hazard area,
does that not mean that section 18.21.070G does not apply to the proposed infiltration facilities? Assuming that it does
not apply to the proposed facilities it would seem that the stormwater manual would take precedence over the critical
areas code. The stormwater manual requires 5’ of separation from the seasonally high groundwater elevation without a
mounding analysis. As the measured seasonally high receptor elevation is at elevation 334, and our proposed receptor
elevation is 7’ above that, it would seem that the current design meets applicable code. How can one be asked to meet
critical areas code if not developing within a critical area or the adjacent areas that the code says it covers per the item
#3 of the cited section? Looking at the draft water tank plan that was provided to us, it looks like the City is planning to
infiltrate at elevation 341, the same as us, but about 50’ closer to the hazard area than we are. The code section cited
appears to make no allowance for infiltration within 6’ of the base flood elevation even with a mounding analysis. If it is
the City’s official position that the cited code section applies to the area where we show the drainage facilities then a
mounding analysis would seem to be useless for Dennis’ facility as well as the City’s, because City code makes no
exceptions to the 6’ rule; however, the stormwater manual does. Regardless, can review continue while we sort
through this?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 3:34 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
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Nick
We reviewed the revised site plan and stormwater report. The revised proposal does not meet our
Critical Areas Code.
Section 18.21.070G. Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard Areas.
1. Flood Elevations. The base flood elevation for high ground water flood hazard areas corresponds to the elevation of the outer
edge of the high ground water flood hazard area.
2. Delineation of the Base Flood Elevation. Applicants shall submit to the approval authority hydrologic and hydrogeologic studies as
necessary to delineate the high ground water flood hazard area and the base flood elevation.
3. No development shall locate within 50 feet, measured on a horizontal plane, from the outer edge of the high ground water hazard
area or extending to a ground elevation two feet above the base flood elevation, whichever is less.
4. The bottom of any infiltration facility for stormwater discharge shall be located at least six feet above the base flood elevation.
Past flood events in 1996 and 1997 have shown that flood elevation is between elevation 339 and
340. In order to meet standard #4, any infiltration facility for stormwater is to be six feet above this
base flood elevation.
We have in the past, accepted a mounding analysis that shows that there is no impact (less than ½
foot) on the high ground water elevation at the property lines. A final stormwater plan will need to
show the high groundwater and any infiltration gallery must meet the minimum vertical separations
required by the appropriate drainage manual.
I have attached a mounding analysis that was provided for a project in Yelm for you to take a look at.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:12 AM
To: 'ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com' <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Hi Nick
My apologies for not responding. I did receive the emails and attachments. I was slammed the first part of the week,
and out sick Thursday and Friday.
The City Engineer and I will review your documents this week.
Thanks.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
115
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:33 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: FW: Early Environmental Review Determination
Second email.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Tami Merriman' <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Derek McCoy' <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Grant Beck' <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Please see attached resubmittal documents for the Nisqually Landing Apartments Site Plan Review application. In
regard to the early review comments that were provided to us:
1. High Groundwater Hazard Area – We eliminated the ponds that were within the 50’ development buffer and
replaced them with infiltration galleries in the parking lot. Please see the attached revised preliminary plans and
drainage report.
2. STEP System – We completed preliminary calculations to determine required STEP tank sizing and
quantity. Please see the attached STEP tank sizing calculations.
3. Driveway Access – We tried to contact Walmart’s store manager to discuss timing of their potential driveway
move, but were unable to obtain that information. In speaking with Bill Elliot at WSDOT, Walmart has not yet
submitted any plans or permit applications showing relocation of their entrance, and even if they choose to
relocate the entrance the proposed location of our site driveway does not inhibit them from moving their
entrance to a location that meets intersection spacing requirements. Thusly, we have left the driveway as-is.
Do you need any hardcopies?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
116
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick & Dennis
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Derek McCoy
Sent:Thursday, October 10, 2019 2:05 PM
To:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc:'Dennis Daly'; Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: \[External\]RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick,
Yes, the use of a 6” sand filter layer would be acceptable.
When revising the drainage report refer to SWMWW Vol III, Appendix III-C for LID Flow Modeling Guidance and the use
of WWHM’s “porous pavement” element is encouraged.
A more detailed discussion will most like be required when this project transitions into Civil / Construction Plan Review
concerning a permeable pavement design, but for now I understand that it’s important to show that you have a
stormwater plan that conforms to the stormwater manual and city codes.
Derek M. McCoy, P.E.
Community and Economic Development - Civil Review Engineer
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Office: (360) 458-8132 | Cell: (253) 278-2937
Email: derekm@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:43 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: \[External\]RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
The only way that we can make that elevation work is to use permeable pavement in the parking and driving
areas. Because of the rapid infiltration rate the underlying soil will likely not meet the requirements for a treatment
layer. However, page 924 of the ecology manual says: Where the native soils below a pollution-generating permeable
pavement (e.g., road or parking lot) do not meet the soil suitability criteria for providing treatment the local government
has the option of requiring a six-inch layer of media meeting the soil suitability criteria or the sand filter specification as
a condition of construction.
Would the City allow us to use the recommended sand layer as the treatment layer under permeable pavement?
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Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:05 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
SMMWW Section 3.3.5, Subsurface Characterization, #4 states: Monitoring through at least one wet season is
required, unless substantially equivalent site historical data regarding ground water levels is available.
Recorded flood data and high ground water analysis performed by Wal-Mart shows high ground water to be
339 – 340. The City does not agree with the assumption that the high ground water level to be 334.
The manual also states at 3.3.5 Infiltration receptor: Impact of the infiltration rate and volume at the project
site on ground water mounding, flow direction, and water table; and the discharge point or area of the
infiltrating water. Conduct a ground water mounding analysis at all sites where the depth to seasonal ground
water table or low permeability stratum is less than 15 feet from the estimated bottom elevation of the
infiltration facility, and the runoff to the infiltration facility is from more than one acre.
3.3.7 SSC-5
The base of all infiltration basins or trench systems shall be ≥5 feet above the seasonal high-water mark,
bedrock (or hardpan) or other low permeability layer. A separation down to 3 feet may be considered if the
ground water mounding analysis, volumetric receptor capacity, and the design of the overflow and/or bypass
structures are judged by the site professional to be adequate to prevent overtopping and meet the site
suitability criteria specified in this section.
We know that there is high ground water, we know that the flood elevation is at 339-340. If you are unable to
locate the bottom of the infiltration at 344 or above, then we would consider the mounding analysis to reduce
the separation level to 3 feet as stated in 3.3.7 above.
Project review is currenlty on hold for additional information. If you wish to move forward without meeting
the stormwater code, I will have to deny approval as the project does not meet City development
regualations.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
119
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 4:54 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Since section 18.21.080G is titled “Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard
Areas”, it would seem to not apply to locations outside of the high groundwater hazard area, except for as provided in
item #3 of that section. Because the proposed infiltration facilities are not within the high groundwater hazard area,
does that not mean that section 18.21.070G does not apply to the proposed infiltration facilities? Assuming that it does
not apply to the proposed facilities it would seem that the stormwater manual would take precedence over the critical
areas code. The stormwater manual requires 5’ of separation from the seasonally high groundwater elevation without a
mounding analysis. As the measured seasonally high receptor elevation is at elevation 334, and our proposed receptor
elevation is 7’ above that, it would seem that the current design meets applicable code. How can one be asked to meet
critical areas code if not developing within a critical area or the adjacent areas that the code says it covers per the item
#3 of the cited section? Looking at the draft water tank plan that was provided to us, it looks like the City is planning to
infiltrate at elevation 341, the same as us, but about 50’ closer to the hazard area than we are. The code section cited
appears to make no allowance for infiltration within 6’ of the base flood elevation even with a mounding analysis. If it is
the City’s official position that the cited code section applies to the area where we show the drainage facilities then a
mounding analysis would seem to be useless for Dennis’ facility as well as the City’s, because City code makes no
exceptions to the 6’ rule; however, the stormwater manual does. Regardless, can review continue while we sort
through this?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 3:34 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
We reviewed the revised site plan and stormwater report. The revised proposal does not meet our
Critical Areas Code.
Section 18.21.070G. Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard Areas.
1. Flood Elevations. The base flood elevation for high ground water flood hazard areas corresponds to the elevation of the outer
edge of the high ground water flood hazard area.
2. Delineation of the Base Flood Elevation. Applicants shall submit to the approval authority hydrologic and hydrogeologic studies as
necessary to delineate the high ground water flood hazard area and the base flood elevation.
3. No development shall locate within 50 feet, measured on a horizontal plane, from the outer edge of the high ground water hazard
area or extending to a ground elevation two feet above the base flood elevation, whichever is less.
4. The bottom of any infiltration facility for stormwater discharge shall be located at least six feet above the base flood elevation.
Past flood events in 1996 and 1997 have shown that flood elevation is between elevation 339 and
340. In order to meet standard #4, any infiltration facility for stormwater is to be six feet above this
base flood elevation.
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We have in the past, accepted a mounding analysis that shows that there is no impact (less than ½
foot) on the high ground water elevation at the property lines. A final stormwater plan will need to
show the high groundwater and any infiltration gallery must meet the minimum vertical separations
required by the appropriate drainage manual.
I have attached a mounding analysis that was provided for a project in Yelm for you to take a look at.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:12 AM
To: 'ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com' <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Hi Nick
My apologies for not responding. I did receive the emails and attachments. I was slammed the first part of the week,
and out sick Thursday and Friday.
The City Engineer and I will review your documents this week.
Thanks.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:33 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: FW: Early Environmental Review Determination
Second email.
Nicholas Taylor PE
121
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Tami Merriman' <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Derek McCoy' <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Grant Beck' <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Please see attached resubmittal documents for the Nisqually Landing Apartments Site Plan Review application. In
regard to the early review comments that were provided to us:
1. High Groundwater Hazard Area – We eliminated the ponds that were within the 50’ development buffer and
replaced them with infiltration galleries in the parking lot. Please see the attached revised preliminary plans and
drainage report.
2. STEP System – We completed preliminary calculations to determine required STEP tank sizing and
quantity. Please see the attached STEP tank sizing calculations.
3. Driveway Access – We tried to contact Walmart’s store manager to discuss timing of their potential driveway
move, but were unable to obtain that information. In speaking with Bill Elliot at WSDOT, Walmart has not yet
submitted any plans or permit applications showing relocation of their entrance, and even if they choose to
relocate the entrance the proposed location of our site driveway does not inhibit them from moving their
entrance to a location that meets intersection spacing requirements. Thusly, we have left the driveway as-is.
Do you need any hardcopies?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick & Dennis
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
122
123
Tami Merriman
From:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Sent:Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:43 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Derek McCoy; 'Dennis Daly'
Subject:\[External\]RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
The only way that we can make that elevation work is to use permeable pavement in the parking and driving
areas. Because of the rapid infiltration rate the underlying soil will likely not meet the requirements for a treatment
layer. However, page 924 of the ecology manual says: Where the native soils below a pollution-generating permeable
pavement (e.g., road or parking lot) do not meet the soil suitability criteria for providing treatment the local government
has the option of requiring a six-inch layer of media meeting the soil suitability criteria or the sand filter specification as
a condition of construction.
Would the City allow us to use the recommended sand layer as the treatment layer under permeable pavement?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:05 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
SMMWW Section 3.3.5, Subsurface Characterization, #4 states: Monitoring through at least one wet season is
required, unless substantially equivalent site historical data regarding ground water levels is available.
Recorded flood data and high ground water analysis performed by Wal-Mart shows high ground water to be
339 – 340. The City does not agree with the assumption that the high ground water level to be 334.
The manual also states at 3.3.5 Infiltration receptor: Impact of the infiltration rate and volume at the project
site on ground water mounding, flow direction, and water table; and the discharge point or area of the
infiltrating water. Conduct a ground water mounding analysis at all sites where the depth to seasonal ground
water table or low permeability stratum is less than 15 feet from the estimated bottom elevation of the
infiltration facility, and the runoff to the infiltration facility is from more than one acre.
3.3.7 SSC-5
The base of all infiltration basins or trench systems shall be ≥5 feet above the seasonal high-water mark,
bedrock (or hardpan) or other low permeability layer. A separation down to 3 feet may be considered if the
ground water mounding analysis, volumetric receptor capacity, and the design of the overflow and/or bypass
structures are judged by the site professional to be adequate to prevent overtopping and meet the site
suitability criteria specified in this section.
124
We know that there is high ground water, we know that the flood elevation is at 339-340. If you are unable to
locate the bottom of the infiltration at 344 or above, then we would consider the mounding analysis to reduce
the separation level to 3 feet as stated in 3.3.7 above.
Project review is currenlty on hold for additional information. If you wish to move forward without meeting
the stormwater code, I will have to deny approval as the project does not meet City development
regualations.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 4:54 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Since section 18.21.080G is titled “Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard
Areas”, it would seem to not apply to locations outside of the high groundwater hazard area, except for as provided in
item #3 of that section. Because the proposed infiltration facilities are not within the high groundwater hazard area,
does that not mean that section 18.21.070G does not apply to the proposed infiltration facilities? Assuming that it does
not apply to the proposed facilities it would seem that the stormwater manual would take precedence over the critical
areas code. The stormwater manual requires 5’ of separation from the seasonally high groundwater elevation without a
mounding analysis. As the measured seasonally high receptor elevation is at elevation 334, and our proposed receptor
elevation is 7’ above that, it would seem that the current design meets applicable code. How can one be asked to meet
critical areas code if not developing within a critical area or the adjacent areas that the code says it covers per the item
#3 of the cited section? Looking at the draft water tank plan that was provided to us, it looks like the City is planning to
infiltrate at elevation 341, the same as us, but about 50’ closer to the hazard area than we are. The code section cited
appears to make no allowance for infiltration within 6’ of the base flood elevation even with a mounding analysis. If it is
the City’s official position that the cited code section applies to the area where we show the drainage facilities then a
mounding analysis would seem to be useless for Dennis’ facility as well as the City’s, because City code makes no
exceptions to the 6’ rule; however, the stormwater manual does. Regardless, can review continue while we sort
through this?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
125
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 3:34 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
We reviewed the revised site plan and stormwater report. The revised proposal does not meet our
Critical Areas Code.
Section 18.21.070G. Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard Areas.
1. Flood Elevations. The base flood elevation for high ground water flood hazard areas corresponds to the elevation of the outer
edge of the high ground water flood hazard area.
2. Delineation of the Base Flood Elevation. Applicants shall submit to the approval authority hydrologic and hydrogeologic studies as
necessary to delineate the high ground water flood hazard area and the base flood elevation.
3. No development shall locate within 50 feet, measured on a horizontal plane, from the outer edge of the high ground water hazard
area or extending to a ground elevation two feet above the base flood elevation, whichever is less.
4. The bottom of any infiltration facility for stormwater discharge shall be located at least six feet above the base flood elevation.
Past flood events in 1996 and 1997 have shown that flood elevation is between elevation 339 and
340. In order to meet standard #4, any infiltration facility for stormwater is to be six feet above this
base flood elevation.
We have in the past, accepted a mounding analysis that shows that there is no impact (less than ½
foot) on the high ground water elevation at the property lines. A final stormwater plan will need to
show the high groundwater and any infiltration gallery must meet the minimum vertical separations
required by the appropriate drainage manual.
I have attached a mounding analysis that was provided for a project in Yelm for you to take a look at.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:12 AM
To: 'ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com' <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Hi Nick
My apologies for not responding. I did receive the emails and attachments. I was slammed the first part of the week,
and out sick Thursday and Friday.
The City Engineer and I will review your documents this week.
126
Thanks.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:33 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: FW: Early Environmental Review Determination
Second email.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Tami Merriman' <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Derek McCoy' <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Grant Beck' <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Please see attached resubmittal documents for the Nisqually Landing Apartments Site Plan Review application. In
regard to the early review comments that were provided to us:
1. High Groundwater Hazard Area – We eliminated the ponds that were within the 50’ development buffer and
replaced them with infiltration galleries in the parking lot. Please see the attached revised preliminary plans and
drainage report.
2. STEP System – We completed preliminary calculations to determine required STEP tank sizing and
quantity. Please see the attached STEP tank sizing calculations.
3. Driveway Access – We tried to contact Walmart’s store manager to discuss timing of their potential driveway
move, but were unable to obtain that information. In speaking with Bill Elliot at WSDOT, Walmart has not yet
submitted any plans or permit applications showing relocation of their entrance, and even if they choose to
relocate the entrance the proposed location of our site driveway does not inhibit them from moving their
entrance to a location that meets intersection spacing requirements. Thusly, we have left the driveway as-is.
Do you need any hardcopies?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
127
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick & Dennis
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Monday, October 7, 2019 8:07 AM
To:Tami Merriman; Derek McCoy
Subject:RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Just a couple of comments related Nick’s questions below:
1. The contours RH2 has shown for the ground level tank sketch were only preliminary, and were intended only to
see if a storm detention facility would actually fit on the parcel. The City is not “planning to infiltrate at
elevation 341”, as Nick states.
2. We are leaning toward using a standpipe-type tank rather than a ground level tank. If that is the route choose, it
would eliminate the need for a booster pump station the requirement for a storm detention facility.
Just my two cents worth,
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 7:14 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
Derek is out of the office today. We will get back to you soon.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 4:54 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Since section 18.21.080G is titled “Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard
Areas”, it would seem to not apply to locations outside of the high groundwater hazard area, except for as provided in
item #3 of that section. Because the proposed infiltration facilities are not within the high groundwater hazard area,
does that not mean that section 18.21.070G does not apply to the proposed infiltration facilities? Assuming that it does
not apply to the proposed facilities it would seem that the stormwater manual would take precedence over the critical
areas code. The stormwater manual requires 5’ of separation from the seasonally high groundwater elevation without a
mounding analysis. As the measured seasonally high receptor elevation is at elevation 334, and our proposed receptor
elevation is 7’ above that, it would seem that the current design meets applicable code. How can one be asked to meet
critical areas code if not developing within a critical area or the adjacent areas that the code says it covers per the item
#3 of the cited section? Looking at the draft water tank plan that was provided to us, it looks like the City is planning to
infiltrate at elevation 341, the same as us, but about 50’ closer to the hazard area than we are. The code section cited
appears to make no allowance for infiltration within 6’ of the base flood elevation even with a mounding analysis. If it is
the City’s official position that the cited code section applies to the area where we show the drainage facilities then a
mounding analysis would seem to be useless for Dennis’ facility as well as the City’s, because City code makes no
exceptions to the 6’ rule; however, the stormwater manual does. Regardless, can review continue while we sort
through this?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 3:34 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
We reviewed the revised site plan and stormwater report. The revised proposal does not meet our
Critical Areas Code.
Section 18.21.070G. Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard Areas.
1. Flood Elevations. The base flood elevation for high ground water flood hazard areas corresponds to the elevation of the outer
edge of the high ground water flood hazard area.
2. Delineation of the Base Flood Elevation. Applicants shall submit to the approval authority hydrologic and hydrogeologic studies as
necessary to delineate the high ground water flood hazard area and the base flood elevation.
3. No development shall locate within 50 feet, measured on a horizontal plane, from the outer edge of the high ground water hazard
area or extending to a ground elevation two feet above the base flood elevation, whichever is less.
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4. The bottom of any infiltration facility for stormwater discharge shall be located at least six feet above the base flood elevation.
Past flood events in 1996 and 1997 have shown that flood elevation is between elevation 339 and
340. In order to meet standard #4, any infiltration facility for stormwater is to be six feet above this
base flood elevation.
We have in the past, accepted a mounding analysis that shows that there is no impact (less than ½
foot) on the high ground water elevation at the property lines. A final stormwater plan will need to
show the high groundwater and any infiltration gallery must meet the minimum vertical separations
required by the appropriate drainage manual.
I have attached a mounding analysis that was provided for a project in Yelm for you to take a look at.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:12 AM
To: 'ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com' <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Hi Nick
My apologies for not responding. I did receive the emails and attachments. I was slammed the first part of the week,
and out sick Thursday and Friday.
The City Engineer and I will review your documents this week.
Thanks.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:33 PM
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To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: FW: Early Environmental Review Determination
Second email.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Tami Merriman' <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Derek McCoy' <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Grant Beck' <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Please see attached resubmittal documents for the Nisqually Landing Apartments Site Plan Review application. In
regard to the early review comments that were provided to us:
1. High Groundwater Hazard Area – We eliminated the ponds that were within the 50’ development buffer and
replaced them with infiltration galleries in the parking lot. Please see the attached revised preliminary plans and
drainage report.
2. STEP System – We completed preliminary calculations to determine required STEP tank sizing and
quantity. Please see the attached STEP tank sizing calculations.
3. Driveway Access – We tried to contact Walmart’s store manager to discuss timing of their potential driveway
move, but were unable to obtain that information. In speaking with Bill Elliot at WSDOT, Walmart has not yet
submitted any plans or permit applications showing relocation of their entrance, and even if they choose to
relocate the entrance the proposed location of our site driveway does not inhibit them from moving their
entrance to a location that meets intersection spacing requirements. Thusly, we have left the driveway as-is.
Do you need any hardcopies?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick & Dennis
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
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Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Sent:Monday, October 7, 2019 7:20 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Thanks Tami.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 7:14 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>; Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
Derek is out of the office today. We will get back to you soon.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 4:54 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Since section 18.21.080G is titled “Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard
Areas”, it would seem to not apply to locations outside of the high groundwater hazard area, except for as provided in
item #3 of that section. Because the proposed infiltration facilities are not within the high groundwater hazard area,
does that not mean that section 18.21.070G does not apply to the proposed infiltration facilities? Assuming that it does
not apply to the proposed facilities it would seem that the stormwater manual would take precedence over the critical
areas code. The stormwater manual requires 5’ of separation from the seasonally high groundwater elevation without a
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mounding analysis. As the measured seasonally high receptor elevation is at elevation 334, and our proposed receptor
elevation is 7’ above that, it would seem that the current design meets applicable code. How can one be asked to meet
critical areas code if not developing within a critical area or the adjacent areas that the code says it covers per the item
#3 of the cited section? Looking at the draft water tank plan that was provided to us, it looks like the City is planning to
infiltrate at elevation 341, the same as us, but about 50’ closer to the hazard area than we are. The code section cited
appears to make no allowance for infiltration within 6’ of the base flood elevation even with a mounding analysis. If it is
the City’s official position that the cited code section applies to the area where we show the drainage facilities then a
mounding analysis would seem to be useless for Dennis’ facility as well as the City’s, because City code makes no
exceptions to the 6’ rule; however, the stormwater manual does. Regardless, can review continue while we sort
through this?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 3:34 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
We reviewed the revised site plan and stormwater report. The revised proposal does not meet our
Critical Areas Code.
Section 18.21.070G. Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard Areas.
1. Flood Elevations. The base flood elevation for high ground water flood hazard areas corresponds to the elevation of the outer
edge of the high ground water flood hazard area.
2. Delineation of the Base Flood Elevation. Applicants shall submit to the approval authority hydrologic and hydrogeologic studies as
necessary to delineate the high ground water flood hazard area and the base flood elevation.
3. No development shall locate within 50 feet, measured on a horizontal plane, from the outer edge of the high ground water hazard
area or extending to a ground elevation two feet above the base flood elevation, whichever is less.
4. The bottom of any infiltration facility for stormwater discharge shall be located at least six feet above the base flood elevation.
Past flood events in 1996 and 1997 have shown that flood elevation is between elevation 339 and
340. In order to meet standard #4, any infiltration facility for stormwater is to be six feet above this
base flood elevation.
We have in the past, accepted a mounding analysis that shows that there is no impact (less than ½
foot) on the high ground water elevation at the property lines. A final stormwater plan will need to
show the high groundwater and any infiltration gallery must meet the minimum vertical separations
required by the appropriate drainage manual.
I have attached a mounding analysis that was provided for a project in Yelm for you to take a look at.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:12 AM
To: 'ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com' <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Hi Nick
My apologies for not responding. I did receive the emails and attachments. I was slammed the first part of the week,
and out sick Thursday and Friday.
The City Engineer and I will review your documents this week.
Thanks.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:33 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: FW: Early Environmental Review Determination
Second email.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Tami Merriman' <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Derek McCoy' <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Grant Beck' <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Please see attached resubmittal documents for the Nisqually Landing Apartments Site Plan Review application. In
regard to the early review comments that were provided to us:
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1. High Groundwater Hazard Area – We eliminated the ponds that were within the 50’ development buffer and
replaced them with infiltration galleries in the parking lot. Please see the attached revised preliminary plans and
drainage report.
2. STEP System – We completed preliminary calculations to determine required STEP tank sizing and
quantity. Please see the attached STEP tank sizing calculations.
3. Driveway Access – We tried to contact Walmart’s store manager to discuss timing of their potential driveway
move, but were unable to obtain that information. In speaking with Bill Elliot at WSDOT, Walmart has not yet
submitted any plans or permit applications showing relocation of their entrance, and even if they choose to
relocate the entrance the proposed location of our site driveway does not inhibit them from moving their
entrance to a location that meets intersection spacing requirements. Thusly, we have left the driveway as-is.
Do you need any hardcopies?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick & Dennis
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Sent:Sunday, October 6, 2019 4:54 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Derek McCoy; 'Dennis Daly'
Subject:RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Since section 18.21.080G is titled “Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard
Areas”, it would seem to not apply to locations outside of the high groundwater hazard area, except for as provided in
item #3 of that section. Because the proposed infiltration facilities are not within the high groundwater hazard area,
does that not mean that section 18.21.070G does not apply to the proposed infiltration facilities? Assuming that it does
not apply to the proposed facilities it would seem that the stormwater manual would take precedence over the critical
areas code. The stormwater manual requires 5’ of separation from the seasonally high groundwater elevation without a
mounding analysis. As the measured seasonally high receptor elevation is at elevation 334, and our proposed receptor
elevation is 7’ above that, it would seem that the current design meets applicable code. How can one be asked to meet
critical areas code if not developing within a critical area or the adjacent areas that the code says it covers per the item
#3 of the cited section? Looking at the draft water tank plan that was provided to us, it looks like the City is planning to
infiltrate at elevation 341, the same as us, but about 50’ closer to the hazard area than we are. The code section cited
appears to make no allowance for infiltration within 6’ of the base flood elevation even with a mounding analysis. If it is
the City’s official position that the cited code section applies to the area where we show the drainage facilities then a
mounding analysis would seem to be useless for Dennis’ facility as well as the City’s, because City code makes no
exceptions to the 6’ rule; however, the stormwater manual does. Regardless, can review continue while we sort
through this?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 3:34 PM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick
We reviewed the revised site plan and stormwater report. The revised proposal does not meet our
Critical Areas Code.
Section 18.21.070G. Performance Standards – General Requirements in High Ground Water Hazard Areas.
1. Flood Elevations. The base flood elevation for high ground water flood hazard areas corresponds to the elevation of the outer
edge of the high ground water flood hazard area.
2. Delineation of the Base Flood Elevation. Applicants shall submit to the approval authority hydrologic and hydrogeologic studies as
necessary to delineate the high ground water flood hazard area and the base flood elevation.
3. No development shall locate within 50 feet, measured on a horizontal plane, from the outer edge of the high ground water hazard
area or extending to a ground elevation two feet above the base flood elevation, whichever is less.
4. The bottom of any infiltration facility for stormwater discharge shall be located at least six feet above the base flood elevation.
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Past flood events in 1996 and 1997 have shown that flood elevation is between elevation 339 and
340. In order to meet standard #4, any infiltration facility for stormwater is to be six feet above this
base flood elevation.
We have in the past, accepted a mounding analysis that shows that there is no impact (less than ½
foot) on the high ground water elevation at the property lines. A final stormwater plan will need to
show the high groundwater and any infiltration gallery must meet the minimum vertical separations
required by the appropriate drainage manual.
I have attached a mounding analysis that was provided for a project in Yelm for you to take a look at.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:12 AM
To: 'ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com' <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Hi Nick
My apologies for not responding. I did receive the emails and attachments. I was slammed the first part of the week,
and out sick Thursday and Friday.
The City Engineer and I will review your documents this week.
Thanks.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:33 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: FW: Early Environmental Review Determination
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Second email.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Tami Merriman' <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Derek McCoy' <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Grant Beck' <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Please see attached resubmittal documents for the Nisqually Landing Apartments Site Plan Review application. In
regard to the early review comments that were provided to us:
1. High Groundwater Hazard Area – We eliminated the ponds that were within the 50’ development buffer and
replaced them with infiltration galleries in the parking lot. Please see the attached revised preliminary plans and
drainage report.
2. STEP System – We completed preliminary calculations to determine required STEP tank sizing and
quantity. Please see the attached STEP tank sizing calculations.
3. Driveway Access – We tried to contact Walmart’s store manager to discuss timing of their potential driveway
move, but were unable to obtain that information. In speaking with Bill Elliot at WSDOT, Walmart has not yet
submitted any plans or permit applications showing relocation of their entrance, and even if they choose to
relocate the entrance the proposed location of our site driveway does not inhibit them from moving their
entrance to a location that meets intersection spacing requirements. Thusly, we have left the driveway as-is.
Do you need any hardcopies?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick & Dennis
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
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nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Friday, October 4, 2019 11:02 AM
To:Dennis Daly
Cc:Marge Bailey; Tami Merriman; Derek McCoy; Bill VanBuskirk; John Ivey
Subject:RE: 24 hr notice to enter property
Dennis:
Thanks for the copy of the notice. I’ll inform the surveyors.
As for schedule, yesterday I met with Derek McCoy in Community Development (our Project Engineer). Derek is drafting
up a Request for Qualifications today for an engineer to design the water main extension along Walmart Blvd. and along
rd
103. I expect that RFQ will go out mid-next week, with a target date of the end of October to have a Design Engineer
on board. Derek also met with our lead water operator, John Ivey, to discuss the extent to the new main. Assuming a
design will be completed around the first of the year (just a guess right now), we’d be ready to bid and build the water
main in the spring.
I had lunch yesterday with our engineer, RH2, who is working on the preliminary design for the new tank. We are
looking at a stand pipe (128’ high) vs. a ground level tank (30’ high) and booster pump. Right now, it looks like either
type would work, and long-range costs work out to about the same. We’d like to review the topo survey to see if/how
that might affect our decision on which way to go, and the best location to place the tank on the site. Once the topo is
complete, the next step will be to draft up a document (i.e., a short plat) to segregate the land. We’ll work closely with
you on that.
Based on this rough timeline, I don’t see that your tenant will actually need to move out until at least next summer.
So things are moving along quite well on our end. I’ll keep you posted,
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Dennis Daly \[mailto:dtdaly1@msn.com\]
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 9:06 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Subject: 24 hr notice to enter property
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Patrick
Notice that was given to tenants informing them you will be entering property.
How are you coming on setting up the meeting to disgust timelines ?
Thanks
Dennis
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Friday, October 4, 2019 8:14 AM
To:Dennis Daly
Cc:Marge Bailey (mbailey@tierra-row.com); Tami Merriman; Derek McCoy
Subject:Topo Survey - 17021 103rd SE, Yelm - SE Reservoir
Dennis:
Our surveyor has confirmed that they will be on-site Tuesday. If they do not complete the survey in one day they will be
back on Wednesday.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
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Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Wednesday, October 2, 2019 10:07 AM
To:Patrick Hughes; Dennis Daly
Cc:Derek McCoy; Tami Merriman; Leslie Findlay
Subject:RE: 17021 103rd SE
Great, thanks!
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 9:55 AM
To: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-
row.com>
Subject: RE: 17021 103rd SE
Thank you, Marge. I’ll let our surveyor know this. I will let you and Dennis know at least 24 hours in advance of when
they are planning to mobilize to the site for the survey.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 9:08 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-
row.com>
Subject: RE: 17021 103rd SE
Pat, Dennis:
The existing Right of Entry expires on 10/10/2019. The tenant needs to be notified within 24 hours of the date/time the
surveyors will be at the property.
Thanks,
Marge
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Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
8685 Martin Way E., #203, Lacey, WA 98516 *NEW LACEY OFFICE
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From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 5:23 PM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman
<tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: 17021 103rd SE
Dennis:
OK… here’s what I know as of today:
We are proceeding with a topographic survey of the portion of property we plan to split off. We are using our
own survey firm. We have received their proposal and have notified them that we intend to proceed. Marge
and Dennis: Do we have Right of Entry to do this survey?
Attached is a preliminary layout showing the Proposed Property Line. Dennis: Please let me know if you have
any concerns with this proposed line. Tami Merriman in our Planning Department is looking into whether we
will need to do a short plat to split this parcel, or if we can do a simple boundary line adjustment (BLA). She
thinks we will likely have to do a plat. Either way, the cost of the boundary survey and plat (or BLA, if allowed)
will be borne by the City.
I spoke with Derek McCoy regarding the water main construction along Walmart Blvd. We are still looking at a
Spring 2020 timeframe for construction. We are preparing a Request for Qualifications right now, and would
like to shoot to get the design under contract by the end of November.
At this point, I think it’s safe to assume that we have decided on this parcel for our new water reservoir. We
don’t have any other options that seem to fulfill our needs as well as this parcel. So I think it would be
appropriate to notify your tenant.
Now that I’m back from vacation, I’ll be in more frequent communication with you.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
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From: Dennis Daly \[mailto:dtdaly1@msn.com\]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:39 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: 17021 103rd SE
Good morning Patrick.
I believe after our last conversation that was about 2 weeks ago we agreed that you would get back to me and
let me know what was happening on your part of the project.
Hopefully I am very close to getting an approval on my preliminary submission with Tami. So your status is
rather critical to my plans to move forward.
Best
Dennis Daly
147
Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Wednesday, October 2, 2019 9:55 AM
To:Marge Bailey; Dennis Daly
Cc:Derek McCoy; Tami Merriman; Leslie Findlay
Subject:RE: 17021 103rd SE
Thank you, Marge. I’ll let our surveyor know this. I will let you and Dennis know at least 24 hours in advance of when
they are planning to mobilize to the site for the survey.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Marge Bailey \[mailto:mbailey@tierra-row.com\]
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 9:08 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>; Leslie Findlay <lfindlay@tierra-
row.com>
Subject: RE: 17021 103rd SE
Pat, Dennis:
The existing Right of Entry expires on 10/10/2019. The tenant needs to be notified within 24 hours of the date/time the
surveyors will be at the property.
Thanks,
Marge
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
8685 Martin Way E., #203, Lacey, WA 98516 *NEW LACEY OFFICE
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
This message, including any attachments, contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. Any disclosure, copying, or
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148
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 5:23 PM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman
<tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: 17021 103rd SE
Dennis:
OK… here’s what I know as of today:
We are proceeding with a topographic survey of the portion of property we plan to split off. We are using our
own survey firm. We have received their proposal and have notified them that we intend to proceed. Marge
and Dennis: Do we have Right of Entry to do this survey?
Attached is a preliminary layout showing the Proposed Property Line. Dennis: Please let me know if you have
any concerns with this proposed line. Tami Merriman in our Planning Department is looking into whether we
will need to do a short plat to split this parcel, or if we can do a simple boundary line adjustment (BLA). She
thinks we will likely have to do a plat. Either way, the cost of the boundary survey and plat (or BLA, if allowed)
will be borne by the City.
I spoke with Derek McCoy regarding the water main construction along Walmart Blvd. We are still looking at a
Spring 2020 timeframe for construction. We are preparing a Request for Qualifications right now, and would
like to shoot to get the design under contract by the end of November.
At this point, I think it’s safe to assume that we have decided on this parcel for our new water reservoir. We
don’t have any other options that seem to fulfill our needs as well as this parcel. So I think it would be
appropriate to notify your tenant.
Now that I’m back from vacation, I’ll be in more frequent communication with you.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Dennis Daly \[mailto:dtdaly1@msn.com\]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:39 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: 17021 103rd SE
Good morning Patrick.
149
I believe after our last conversation that was about 2 weeks ago we agreed that you would get back to me and
let me know what was happening on your part of the project.
Hopefully I am very close to getting an approval on my preliminary submission with Tami. So your status is
rather critical to my plans to move forward.
Best
Dennis Daly
150
Tami Merriman
From:Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>
Sent:Tuesday, October 1, 2019 9:08 PM
To:Patrick Hughes; Dennis Daly
Cc:Derek McCoy; Tami Merriman; Leslie Findlay
Subject:RE: 17021 103rd SE
Pat, Dennis:
The existing Right of Entry expires on 10/10/2019. The tenant needs to be notified within 24 hours of the date/time the
surveyors will be at the property.
Thanks,
Marge
Marge R. Bailey
Senior Right of Way Agent
Tierra Right of Way Services, Ltd.
8685 Martin Way E., #203, Lacey, WA 98516 *NEW LACEY OFFICE
253-439-7143 mobile | 1(800) 887-0847 | www.tierra-row.com
This message, including any attachments, contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. Any disclosure, copying, or
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From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 5:23 PM
To: Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman
<tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: 17021 103rd SE
Dennis:
OK… here’s what I know as of today:
We are proceeding with a topographic survey of the portion of property we plan to split off. We are using our
own survey firm. We have received their proposal and have notified them that we intend to proceed. Marge
and Dennis: Do we have Right of Entry to do this survey?
Attached is a preliminary layout showing the Proposed Property Line. Dennis: Please let me know if you have
any concerns with this proposed line. Tami Merriman in our Planning Department is looking into whether we
will need to do a short plat to split this parcel, or if we can do a simple boundary line adjustment (BLA). She
thinks we will likely have to do a plat. Either way, the cost of the boundary survey and plat (or BLA, if allowed)
will be borne by the City.
I spoke with Derek McCoy regarding the water main construction along Walmart Blvd. We are still looking at a
Spring 2020 timeframe for construction. We are preparing a Request for Qualifications right now, and would
like to shoot to get the design under contract by the end of November.
At this point, I think it’s safe to assume that we have decided on this parcel for our new water reservoir. We
don’t have any other options that seem to fulfill our needs as well as this parcel. So I think it would be
appropriate to notify your tenant.
151
Now that I’m back from vacation, I’ll be in more frequent communication with you.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Dennis Daly \[mailto:dtdaly1@msn.com\]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:39 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: 17021 103rd SE
Good morning Patrick.
I believe after our last conversation that was about 2 weeks ago we agreed that you would get back to me and
let me know what was happening on your part of the project.
Hopefully I am very close to getting an approval on my preliminary submission with Tami. So your status is
rather critical to my plans to move forward.
Best
Dennis Daly
152
Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Tuesday, October 1, 2019 5:23 PM
To:Dennis Daly
Cc:Marge Bailey; Derek McCoy; Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: 17021 103rd SE
Attachments:2019-09-18 - Prelim Property Line - SE Reservoir.pdf
Dennis:
OK… here’s what I know as of today:
We are proceeding with a topographic survey of the portion of property we plan to split off. We are using our
own survey firm. We have received their proposal and have notified them that we intend to proceed. Marge
and Dennis: Do we have Right of Entry to do this survey?
Attached is a preliminary layout showing the Proposed Property Line. Dennis: Please let me know if you have
any concerns with this proposed line. Tami Merriman in our Planning Department is looking into whether we
will need to do a short plat to split this parcel, or if we can do a simple boundary line adjustment (BLA). She
thinks we will likely have to do a plat. Either way, the cost of the boundary survey and plat (or BLA, if allowed)
will be borne by the City.
I spoke with Derek McCoy regarding the water main construction along Walmart Blvd. We are still looking at a
Spring 2020 timeframe for construction. We are preparing a Request for Qualifications right now, and would
like to shoot to get the design under contract by the end of November.
At this point, I think it’s safe to assume that we have decided on this parcel for our new water reservoir. We
don’t have any other options that seem to fulfill our needs as well as this parcel. So I think it would be
appropriate to notify your tenant.
Now that I’m back from vacation, I’ll be in more frequent communication with you.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Dennis Daly \[mailto:dtdaly1@msn.com\]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:39 AM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: 17021 103rd SE
153
Good morning Patrick.
I believe after our last conversation that was about 2 weeks ago we agreed that you would get back to me and
let me know what was happening on your part of the project.
Hopefully I am very close to getting an approval on my preliminary submission with Tami. So your status is
rather critical to my plans to move forward.
Best
Dennis Daly
154
Tami Merriman
From:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Sent:Monday, September 30, 2019 9:15 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Hi Tami,
No problem. Hope you are feeling better.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 9:12 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Hi Nick
My apologies for not responding. I did receive the emails and attachments. I was slammed the first part of the week,
and out sick Thursday and Friday.
The City Engineer and I will review your documents this week.
Thanks.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:33 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: FW: Early Environmental Review Determination
Second email.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
155
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Tami Merriman' <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Derek McCoy' <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Grant Beck' <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Please see attached resubmittal documents for the Nisqually Landing Apartments Site Plan Review application. In
regard to the early review comments that were provided to us:
1. High Groundwater Hazard Area – We eliminated the ponds that were within the 50’ development buffer and
replaced them with infiltration galleries in the parking lot. Please see the attached revised preliminary plans and
drainage report.
2. STEP System – We completed preliminary calculations to determine required STEP tank sizing and
quantity. Please see the attached STEP tank sizing calculations.
3. Driveway Access – We tried to contact Walmart’s store manager to discuss timing of their potential driveway
move, but were unable to obtain that information. In speaking with Bill Elliot at WSDOT, Walmart has not yet
submitted any plans or permit applications showing relocation of their entrance, and even if they choose to
relocate the entrance the proposed location of our site driveway does not inhibit them from moving their
entrance to a location that meets intersection spacing requirements. Thusly, we have left the driveway as-is.
Do you need any hardcopies?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick & Dennis
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
156
157
Tami Merriman
From:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Sent:Monday, September 23, 2019 3:33 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:FW: Early Environmental Review Determination
Attachments:Nisqually Landing Apartments - Preliminary Stormwater Control Plan.pdf
Second email.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Tami Merriman' <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Derek McCoy' <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Grant Beck' <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Please see attached resubmittal documents for the Nisqually Landing Apartments Site Plan Review application. In
regard to the early review comments that were provided to us:
1. High Groundwater Hazard Area – We eliminated the ponds that were within the 50’ development buffer and
replaced them with infiltration galleries in the parking lot. Please see the attached revised preliminary plans and
drainage report.
2. STEP System – We completed preliminary calculations to determine required STEP tank sizing and
quantity. Please see the attached STEP tank sizing calculations.
3. Driveway Access – We tried to contact Walmart’s store manager to discuss timing of their potential driveway
move, but were unable to obtain that information. In speaking with Bill Elliot at WSDOT, Walmart has not yet
submitted any plans or permit applications showing relocation of their entrance, and even if they choose to
relocate the entrance the proposed location of our site driveway does not inhibit them from moving their
entrance to a location that meets intersection spacing requirements. Thusly, we have left the driveway as-is.
Do you need any hardcopies?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick & Dennis
158
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
159
Tami Merriman
From:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Sent:Monday, September 23, 2019 3:32 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:FW: Early Environmental Review Determination
Attachments:Nisqually Landing Apartments - STEP Tank Sizing.pdf; Nisqually Landing Apartments -
Preliminary Plans.pdf
Last one did not go through due to file size. Sending the drainage report in second email.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'Tami Merriman' <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Derek McCoy' <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Grant Beck' <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Please see attached resubmittal documents for the Nisqually Landing Apartments Site Plan Review application. In
regard to the early review comments that were provided to us:
1. High Groundwater Hazard Area – We eliminated the ponds that were within the 50’ development buffer and
replaced them with infiltration galleries in the parking lot. Please see the attached revised preliminary plans and
drainage report.
2. STEP System – We completed preliminary calculations to determine required STEP tank sizing and
quantity. Please see the attached STEP tank sizing calculations.
3. Driveway Access – We tried to contact Walmart’s store manager to discuss timing of their potential driveway
move, but were unable to obtain that information. In speaking with Bill Elliot at WSDOT, Walmart has not yet
submitted any plans or permit applications showing relocation of their entrance, and even if they choose to
relocate the entrance the proposed location of our site driveway does not inhibit them from moving their
entrance to a location that meets intersection spacing requirements. Thusly, we have left the driveway as-is.
Do you need any hardcopies?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
160
Nick & Dennis
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
161
Tami Merriman
From:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Sent:Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:19 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: Nisqually Landing - Parking
Thanks Tami.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:02 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Subject: RE: Nisqually Landing - Parking
The planning commission is considering reducing parking requirements for multi-family dwellings. They will be holding a
study session in October to determine how the reduction may apply (i.e. based on number of bedrooms). If they choose
to move forward with this reduction, they will hold a public hearing, then present their recommendation to City Council
for Adoption. It must go through a process, so any final changes would take effect in 2020.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 7:24 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Subject: Nisqually Landing - Parking
Tami,
Dennis mentioned that there are some parking code changes coming that may affect the Nisqually Landing project in the
near future. Are you able to share the potential changes even if they have not yet been codified? We are wrapping up
the plan revisions based on your initial review comments and want to make sure that the site will be in compliance.
Nicholas Taylor PE
162
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
163
Tami Merriman
From:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Sent:Wednesday, September 18, 2019 7:24 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:'Dennis Daly'
Subject:Nisqually Landing - Parking
Tami,
Dennis mentioned that there are some parking code changes coming that may affect the Nisqually Landing project in the
near future. Are you able to share the potential changes even if they have not yet been codified? We are wrapping up
the plan revisions based on your initial review comments and want to make sure that the site will be in compliance.
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
164
Tami Merriman
From:Clayton Posey <cposey@rh2.com>
Sent:Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:26 AM
To:Patrick Hughes; Geoff Dillard
Cc:Marge Bailey; Chad Bedlington; Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
Pat,
If you are confident that this property acquisition will go through and that this will be the final site for the project, the
most cost effective option would be to get the full topographical survey while the surveyor makes the trip out there.
That obviously has some risk if you do not acquire the project and you have already spent the money on a full survey.
If you only want a boundary survey at this point then contracting with Sitts and Hill directly will be more cost effective
for the City than going through RH2. Gary Letzring is a good contact for that work. His information is below.
Gary Letzring, P.L.S. - Senior Project Surveyor
SITTS & HILL ENGINEERS, INC.
CIVIL - STRUCTURAL - SURVEYING
4815 CENTER STREET, TACOMA, WA 98409
PHONE: (253) 474-9449 ext.344
EMAIL: garyl@sittshill.com
http://www.sittshill.com/
Clayton Posey | RH2 Engineering, Inc.
C: 253.797.7632
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:51 PM
To: Clayton Posey <cposey@rh2.com>; Geoff Dillard <gdillard@rh2.com>
Cc: Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Chad Bedlington <chadb@Yelmwa.gov>; Tami Merriman
<tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
Clayton/Geoff:
I talked with Chad. We’d like to move forward with using Sitts & Hill to do a simple boundary survey for us that can be
used for a property appraisal. Attached is a sketch showing the approximate property line we’d like to consider.
Since Sitts & Hill is already listed on the MRSC consultant roster, we could have S&H work directly for us without having
to go out with an RFQ. Alternately, we could modify/append RH2’s agreement to include their services.
If you would prefer that I work directly with S&H, do you have a contact? This is all that’s shown on the MRSC Roster:
Sitts & Hill Engineers, Inc.
Tiffany Casne
4815 Center Street
165
Tacoma, WA 98409
253-474-9449
jillm@sittshill.com, marketing@sittshill.com, tiffanyc@sittshill.com
Please let me know which way you’d like to proceed.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Patrick Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:28 AM
To: 'Clayton Posey' <cposey@rh2.com>
Cc: Geoff Dillard <gdillard@rh2.com>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Chad Bedlington
<chadb@Yelmwa.gov>; Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
Clayton:
That all sounds great. I will get with Chad to see if we’ll want you to use Sitts & Hill. As the most likely alternative, we
could use the property owner’s survey firm (Iris Consulting) as they are the engineer for the proposed development on
the remainder of the property. Further, I would want the owner’s concurrence on the location of property line. I am
copying Iris on this email.
We’ll look forward to reviewing your cycle cost analysis and tech memo.
Chad and I are available to meet with you any time.
Thanks, Clayton,
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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From: Clayton Posey \[mailto:cposey@rh2.com\]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 4:04 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Geoff Dillard <gdillard@rh2.com>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Chad Bedlington
<chadb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
Hi Pat,
Rh2 does not have surveying in house. We do have subconsultant surveying with Sitts & Hill in our scope of work and fee
for this project, but it was intended to be a full survey for use in design. Are you still planning on performing that survey
as part of this contract? I will let Geoff Dillard advise on that matter.
The proposed property line looks adequate. We would propose (as is shown in the preliminary site plan) to keep
improvements outside of the high ground water hazard area. It looks like your proposed property line includes a portion
of that area so there should be plenty enough room for the project.
Also, I wanted to update Chad and yourself on the status of the other task we were working on. I have completed a tank
selection/life cycle cost analysis (standpipe vs at grade, steel vs concrete) for this site and a brief technical
memorandum. The Tech memo is waiting Geoff’s review. He is on vacation until after Labor Day, but you should be
receiving that by the end of next week. I would recommend we meet in a few weeks after you have had time to review
that memo.
I will contact you after talking to Geoff regarding the survey.
Clayton Posey | RH2 Engineering, Inc.
C: 253.797.7632
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 10:02 AM
To: Clayton Posey <cposey@rh2.com>
Cc: Geoff Dillard <gdillard@rh2.com>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Chad Bedlington
<chadb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
Clayton:
We are moving closer to acquiring the NE portion of the parcel directly north of the Yelm Walmart for our proposed SE
reservoir. We are now to the point where we need to do an appraisal of the portion of the property we wish to
acquire. You sent us a couple of sketches in May. A marked up copy of one of them is attached, showing what I believe
is a reasonable location for a proposed property line. We are going to need a little survey work done for this
appraisal. We are going to need a sketch showing this proposed property line as well as a legal description of the
proposed property we are acquiring.
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Are those tasks something you can help us with?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:51 PM
To:Clayton Posey; Geoff Dillard
Cc:Marge Bailey; Chad Bedlington; Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
Attachments:2019-08-26 - Prelim Property Line - SE Reservoir.pdf
Clayton/Geoff:
I talked with Chad. We’d like to move forward with using Sitts & Hill to do a simple boundary survey for us that can be
used for a property appraisal. Attached is a sketch showing the approximate property line we’d like to consider.
Since Sitts & Hill is already listed on the MRSC consultant roster, we could have S&H work directly for us without having
to go out with an RFQ. Alternately, we could modify/append RH2’s agreement to include their services.
If you would prefer that I work directly with S&H, do you have a contact? This is all that’s shown on the MRSC Roster:
Sitts & Hill Engineers, Inc.
Tiffany Casne
4815 Center Street
Tacoma, WA 98409
253-474-9449
jillm@sittshill.com, marketing@sittshill.com, tiffanyc@sittshill.com
Please let me know which way you’d like to proceed.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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From: Patrick Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:28 AM
To: 'Clayton Posey' <cposey@rh2.com>
Cc: Geoff Dillard <gdillard@rh2.com>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Chad Bedlington
<chadb@Yelmwa.gov>; Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>; Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
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Clayton:
That all sounds great. I will get with Chad to see if we’ll want you to use Sitts & Hill. As the most likely alternative, we
could use the property owner’s survey firm (Iris Consulting) as they are the engineer for the proposed development on
the remainder of the property. Further, I would want the owner’s concurrence on the location of property line. I am
copying Iris on this email.
We’ll look forward to reviewing your cycle cost analysis and tech memo.
Chad and I are available to meet with you any time.
Thanks, Clayton,
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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From: Clayton Posey \[mailto:cposey@rh2.com\]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 4:04 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Geoff Dillard <gdillard@rh2.com>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Chad Bedlington
<chadb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
Hi Pat,
Rh2 does not have surveying in house. We do have subconsultant surveying with Sitts & Hill in our scope of work and fee
for this project, but it was intended to be a full survey for use in design. Are you still planning on performing that survey
as part of this contract? I will let Geoff Dillard advise on that matter.
The proposed property line looks adequate. We would propose (as is shown in the preliminary site plan) to keep
improvements outside of the high ground water hazard area. It looks like your proposed property line includes a portion
of that area so there should be plenty enough room for the project.
Also, I wanted to update Chad and yourself on the status of the other task we were working on. I have completed a tank
selection/life cycle cost analysis (standpipe vs at grade, steel vs concrete) for this site and a brief technical
memorandum. The Tech memo is waiting Geoff’s review. He is on vacation until after Labor Day, but you should be
receiving that by the end of next week. I would recommend we meet in a few weeks after you have had time to review
that memo.
I will contact you after talking to Geoff regarding the survey.
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Clayton Posey | RH2 Engineering, Inc.
C: 253.797.7632
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 10:02 AM
To: Clayton Posey <cposey@rh2.com>
Cc: Geoff Dillard <gdillard@rh2.com>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Chad Bedlington
<chadb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
Clayton:
We are moving closer to acquiring the NE portion of the parcel directly north of the Yelm Walmart for our proposed SE
reservoir. We are now to the point where we need to do an appraisal of the portion of the property we wish to
acquire. You sent us a couple of sketches in May. A marked up copy of one of them is attached, showing what I believe
is a reasonable location for a proposed property line. We are going to need a little survey work done for this
appraisal. We are going to need a sketch showing this proposed property line as well as a legal description of the
proposed property we are acquiring.
Are those tasks something you can help us with?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:44 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Marge Bailey
Subject:Update on Multi-Family Development North of Walmart
Tami:
Dennis Daly called me the other day asking about the status of the proposed housing development on the parcel to the
north of Walmart. I told him I am moving ahead with a proposed property line to divide the parcel (prelim sketch
attached), as Marge Bailey (Tierra ROW) needs to do an appraisal of the parcel we’re thinking of splitting out.
It sounded like Dennis was looking for an update on the status of the development review/approval, of which I do not
know. I’m thinking it might be good if you could give him a call or shoot him an email to update him on what has been
happening on the City’s end. I’d like to keep this moving along.
I’ll be on vacation beginning Thursday (9/19) and all the following week, but will check in with you when I get back.
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Patrick Hughes
Sent:Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:28 AM
To:Clayton Posey
Cc:Geoff Dillard; Marge Bailey; Chad Bedlington; Nick Taylor; Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
Clayton:
That all sounds great. I will get with Chad to see if we’ll want you to use Sitts & Hill. As the most likely alternative, we
could use the property owner’s survey firm (Iris Consulting) as they are the engineer for the proposed development on
the remainder of the property. Further, I would want the owner’s concurrence on the location of property line. I am
copying Iris on this email.
We’ll look forward to reviewing your cycle cost analysis and tech memo.
Chad and I are available to meet with you any time.
Thanks, Clayton,
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
Disclaimer: Documents and correspondence are available under RCW 42.56. This e-mail may be disclosed to a third-party requestor.
From: Clayton Posey \[mailto:cposey@rh2.com\]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 4:04 PM
To: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Geoff Dillard <gdillard@rh2.com>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Chad Bedlington
<chadb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: RE: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
Hi Pat,
Rh2 does not have surveying in house. We do have subconsultant surveying with Sitts & Hill in our scope of work and fee
for this project, but it was intended to be a full survey for use in design. Are you still planning on performing that survey
as part of this contract? I will let Geoff Dillard advise on that matter.
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The proposed property line looks adequate. We would propose (as is shown in the preliminary site plan) to keep
improvements outside of the high ground water hazard area. It looks like your proposed property line includes a portion
of that area so there should be plenty enough room for the project.
Also, I wanted to update Chad and yourself on the status of the other task we were working on. I have completed a tank
selection/life cycle cost analysis (standpipe vs at grade, steel vs concrete) for this site and a brief technical
memorandum. The Tech memo is waiting Geoff’s review. He is on vacation until after Labor Day, but you should be
receiving that by the end of next week. I would recommend we meet in a few weeks after you have had time to review
that memo.
I will contact you after talking to Geoff regarding the survey.
Clayton Posey | RH2 Engineering, Inc.
C: 253.797.7632
From: Patrick Hughes <Patrickh@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 10:02 AM
To: Clayton Posey <cposey@rh2.com>
Cc: Geoff Dillard <gdillard@rh2.com>; Marge Bailey <mbailey@tierra-row.com>; Chad Bedlington
<chadb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Proposed Property Line - SE Reservoir - City of Yelm
Clayton:
We are moving closer to acquiring the NE portion of the parcel directly north of the Yelm Walmart for our proposed SE
reservoir. We are now to the point where we need to do an appraisal of the portion of the property we wish to
acquire. You sent us a couple of sketches in May. A marked up copy of one of them is attached, showing what I believe
is a reasonable location for a proposed property line. We are going to need a little survey work done for this
appraisal. We are going to need a sketch showing this proposed property line as well as a legal description of the
proposed property we are acquiring.
Are those tasks something you can help us with?
Pat
Patrick T. Hughes, P.E.
Public Works Program and Projects Manager
City of Yelm | 901 Rhoton Road SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8499 | Cell: (360) 878-2042
Email: patrickh@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Elliott, Bill <ElliotB@wsdot.wa.gov>
Sent:Friday, August 23, 2019 4:19 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Heusman, Jonathan; Severson, Dale; Grant Beck; Scott Sawyer
(scott@sheacarrjewell.com); Patrick Holm (patrickh@scjalliance.com); Gowan, Scott;
Stovall, Carol
Subject:RE: City of Yelm Notice of Application 20190051 Nisqually Landing Apartments
Tami,
What you describe sounds appropriate to me.
Regards,
Bill Elliott
WSDOT Olympic Region
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 8:32 AM
To: Elliott, Bill <ElliotB@wsdot.wa.gov>
Cc: Heusman, Jonathan <HeusmaJ@wsdot.wa.gov>; Severson, Dale <SeversD@wsdot.wa.gov>; Grant Beck
<grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; Scott Sawyer (scott@sheacarrjewell.com) <scott@sheacarrjewell.com>; Patrick Holm
(patrickh@scjalliance.com) <patrickh@scjalliance.com>; Gowan, Scott <GowanS@wsdot.wa.gov>; Stovall, Carol
<StovalC@wsdot.wa.gov>
Subject: RE: City of Yelm Notice of Application 20190051 Nisqually Landing Apartments
Thank you Bill for getting back to me. It appears that the main issue would be if Walmart moves their northern driveway
access to their northern property line, we need to be sure that the apartment driveway is at least 250 feet from there. If
the driveway begins at 250 feet from the property line, and is 25 – 30 feet in width, it still falls within the managed
access area, and outside of the high ground water area.
I would like to direct the applicant to locate their driveway no closer than 250 from their southern property line and that
they are aware that it is restricted access, (right in/right out). That way it is safe if Walmart changes their driveway
location, and allows them to continue moving forward with their project with assurance.
If this is acceptable to all, I will share this information with the applicant.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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From: Elliott, Bill <ElliotB@wsdot.wa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 8:50 AM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Cc: Heusman, Jonathan <HeusmaJ@wsdot.wa.gov>; Severson, Dale <SeversD@wsdot.wa.gov>; Grant Beck
<grantb@Yelmwa.gov>; Scott Sawyer (scott@sheacarrjewell.com) <scott@sheacarrjewell.com>; Patrick Holm
(patrickh@scjalliance.com) <patrickh@scjalliance.com>; Gowan, Scott <GowanS@wsdot.wa.gov>; Stovall, Carol
<StovalC@wsdot.wa.gov>
Subject: RE: City of Yelm Notice of Application 20190051 Nisqually Landing Apartments
Tami,
We’d be glad to meet with you to address the proposed access from the Nisqually Landing Apartments to the SR 510,
Yelm Loop.
rd
The limited access portion of the Yelm Loop extends about 300 feet south of 103 Ave. The remaining distance to SR
rd
507 will be Managed Access. This is shown on the attached, “SR 510, Yelm Loop – 103 to SR 507” file. Also shown on
rd
this file is the intention that there will be a raised median along the Yelm Loop from 103 to SR 507. This resulted from
a Value Engineering study in May 2019. Is the developer aware of this?
The second file (Nisqually Landing Apartments site plan and access) shows an approximate placement of the Nisqually
Landing site plan as relevant to the design for the SR 510, Yelm Loop. Based on this, the proposed driveway location
appears to be compatible with the Class 4 Managed Access.
th
On June 18, we met with Shey Pope, Manager of the Yelm Walmart, and went over the results of the May 2019 Value
Engineering study, including the intent to implement the raised median. As part of discussing access and circulation for
th
the Walmart store, there was discussion that Walmart might want to shift their northern driveway on 170 (future Yelm
Loop) toward their northern property boundary. This would allow for better delivery truck circulation following
construction of the Yelm Loop (including the raised median.) If Walmart chose to do this it would be closer to the
driveway proposed by the Nisqually Landing Apartments. With Class 4 Managed Access the minimum access spacing is
250 feet.
If you would like to meet for discussion of this, are there days/times that would work better for you?
Regards,
Bill Elliott, P.E.
Project Engineer
WSDOT Olympic Region
elliotb@wsdot.wa.gov
(360) 357-2735
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 7:57 AM
To: Adamson, Doug <AdamsoD@wsdot.wa.gov>; Elliott, Bill <ElliotB@wsdot.wa.gov>
Cc: Heusman, Jonathan <HeusmaJ@wsdot.wa.gov>; Severson, Dale <SeversD@wsdot.wa.gov>; Grant Beck
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<grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: FW: City of Yelm Notice of Application 20190051 Nisqually Landing Apartments
Doug and Bill
Please accept my apology for not including you specifically in the notice of application mailing for the Nisqually Landing
Apartments. This is the multi-family project located on the SR510 Loop, directly behind Walmart. We will need to
connect to discuss access to the project on the limited access SR510 Loop. Please let me know your availability. We are
working with the developer on site issues that will result in a revised site plan. It would be good to get agreement on
driveway access early.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 3:14 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: City of Yelm Notice of Application 20190051 Nisqually Landing Apartments
rd
Click here to review the Notice of Application for the Nisqually Landing Apartments, located at 17021 103 Ave. SE,
Yelm, WA Project # 20190051
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Elliott, Bill <ElliotB@wsdot.wa.gov>
Sent:Thursday, August 22, 2019 8:50 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Heusman, Jonathan; Severson, Dale; Grant Beck; Scott Sawyer
(scott@sheacarrjewell.com); Patrick Holm (patrickh@scjalliance.com); Gowan, Scott;
Stovall, Carol
Subject:RE: City of Yelm Notice of Application 20190051 Nisqually Landing Apartments
Attachments:SR 510, Yelm Loop - 103rd to SR 507 - 8-22-19.pdf; Nisqually Landing Apartments
site plan and access.pdf
Tami,
We’d be glad to meet with you to address the proposed access from the Nisqually Landing Apartments to the SR 510,
Yelm Loop.
rd
The limited access portion of the Yelm Loop extends about 300 feet south of 103 Ave. The remaining distance to SR
rd
507 will be Managed Access. This is shown on the attached, “SR 510, Yelm Loop – 103 to SR 507” file. Also shown on
rd
this file is the intention that there will be a raised median along the Yelm Loop from 103 to SR 507. This resulted from
a Value Engineering study in May 2019. Is the developer aware of this?
The second file (Nisqually Landing Apartments site plan and access) shows an approximate placement of the Nisqually
Landing site plan as relevant to the design for the SR 510, Yelm Loop. Based on this, the proposed driveway location
appears to be compatible with the Class 4 Managed Access.
th
On June 18, we met with Shey Pope, Manager of the Yelm Walmart, and went over the results of the May 2019 Value
Engineering study, including the intent to implement the raised median. As part of discussing access and circulation for
th
the Walmart store, there was discussion that Walmart might want to shift their northern driveway on 170 (future Yelm
Loop) toward their northern property boundary. This would allow for better delivery truck circulation following
construction of the Yelm Loop (including the raised median.) If Walmart chose to do this it would be closer to the
driveway proposed by the Nisqually Landing Apartments. With Class 4 Managed Access the minimum access spacing is
250 feet.
If you would like to meet for discussion of this, are there days/times that would work better for you?
Regards,
Bill Elliott, P.E.
Project Engineer
WSDOT Olympic Region
elliotb@wsdot.wa.gov
(360) 357-2735
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 7:57 AM
To: Adamson, Doug <AdamsoD@wsdot.wa.gov>; Elliott, Bill <ElliotB@wsdot.wa.gov>
Cc: Heusman, Jonathan <HeusmaJ@wsdot.wa.gov>; Severson, Dale <SeversD@wsdot.wa.gov>; Grant Beck
<grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: FW: City of Yelm Notice of Application 20190051 Nisqually Landing Apartments
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Doug and Bill
Please accept my apology for not including you specifically in the notice of application mailing for the Nisqually Landing
Apartments. This is the multi-family project located on the SR510 Loop, directly behind Walmart. We will need to
connect to discuss access to the project on the limited access SR510 Loop. Please let me know your availability. We are
working with the developer on site issues that will result in a revised site plan. It would be good to get agreement on
driveway access early.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
From: Tami Merriman
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 3:14 PM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: City of Yelm Notice of Application 20190051 Nisqually Landing Apartments
rd
Click here to review the Notice of Application for the Nisqually Landing Apartments, located at 17021 103 Ave. SE,
Yelm, WA Project # 20190051
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com
Sent:Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:41 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Derek McCoy; Grant Beck; 'Dennis Daly'
Subject:RE: Early Environmental Review Determination
Tami,
Thank you for the courtesy of a letter before finding a determination of significance. We have a couple questions:
1. What document do you suggest that we use to delineate the base flood elevation?
2. We have already communicated with DOT regarding the access, and their statement was to submit an
application locally so that DOT could review and comment at that time. Is there anything else that we can do
now other than standby for their review and comment on the application?
3. The STEP system area shown on the plans is there as a depiction of the area where multiple STEP tanks will be
located; is there a need for further detailing of the STEP system at this preliminary point in the project?
Nicholas Taylor PE
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 688-1302
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@Yelmwa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18 AM
To: ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com; 'Dennis Daly' <dtdaly1@msn.com>
Cc: Derek McCoy <DerekM@Yelmwa.gov>; Grant Beck <grantb@Yelmwa.gov>
Subject: Early Environmental Review Determination
Nick & Dennis
We have begun our environmental review of this project and have several concerns, specifically, the high ground water
determination, proposed sewer service, and driveway access.
Please see the attached letter and contact me on how you wish to move forward. It is our desire to work with you to
achieve a plan that meets our critical areas code.
Thanks
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
nd
City of Yelm | 106 2 Street SE | Yelm, WA 98597
Direct: (360) 458-8496
Email: tamim@yelmwa.gov
Website: www.yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Tuesday, November 27, 2018 2:27 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: rezone
Hi Tami,
Thanks for letting me know about my inbox, and I’m sorry for not leaving information about which project I was talking
about; sometimes I space out. Yes, it’s the one behind Walmart. The last time we talked was a couple of weeks ago
about potential rezone to high density residential, which sounds like a better idea than commercial, based on a demand
for multi-family housing in the City. The Client would like to proceed with the rezone application for high density
residential, but they may be interested in purchasing other properties for potential rezone in the same vicinity; would
you be open to another presub to discuss potential rezone?
Nick Taylor – PE, LEEDap
The Iris Group PLLC
(360) 338-8132
www.IrisGroupConsulting.com
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:46 PM
To: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Subject: rezone
Hi Nick
I got your message, I tried calling, it went to your voicemail, but I could not leave a message, it said your box was full.
I am not sure where you are referring to for a rezone. Is it the property behind Walmart? What did you want to rezone
it to?
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
105 Yelm Ave. W
Yelm, WA 98597
360.458.8496
tamim@yelmwa.gov
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Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:46 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:RE: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
Hi Tami,
I received the thumbdrive that you sent. I downloaded the files and dropped it back in the mail to you. Thank you very
much!
Nick Taylor – PE, LEEDap
The Iris Group PLLC
4160 6th Ave SE, Ste 105
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 11:43 AM
To: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
The environmental reports I am trying to send you are too large.
I will need to mail them to you on a thumb drive.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
105 Yelm Ave. W
Yelm, WA 98597
360.458.8496
tamim@yelmwa.gov
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 11:40 AM
To: Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us>
Subject: Re: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
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OK. Thank you.
On 7/30/2018 11:33 AM, Tami Merriman wrote:
> Nick
> I am sending a few files. They are so far out of date, I am not sure
> if they will be of assistance. I have reduced the file size, but
> still need to send individually.
>
>
>
> Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
> Community and Economic Development
> 105 Yelm Ave. W
> Yelm, WA 98597
> 360.458.8496
> tamim@yelmwa.gov
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 9:59 AM
> To: Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us>
> Cc: Deb Townsend <deb@debtownsend.com>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
>
> Tami,
>
> 8/15 at 2pm sounds just fine. We will put it on our calendars and see
> you then.
>
> NT
>
>
> On 7/30/2018 9:22 AM, Tami Merriman wrote:
>> Nick
>> I am afraid it is too late to schedule a meeting on August 1. There
>> is no meeting on the 8th, so the earliest we could see you would be
>> Wednesday, August 15. I can schedule you for either 2 or 3 pm.
>>
>> Please let me know your preference.
>>
>> Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
>> Community and Economic Development
>> 105 Yelm Ave. W
>> Yelm, WA 98597
>> 360.458.8496
>> tamim@yelmwa.gov
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
184
>> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 4:35 PM
>> To: Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us>; Deb Townsend
>> <deb@debtownsend.com>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
>> Subject: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
>>
>> Hi Tami,
>>
>> Please see the attached presubmission conference request and
>> preliminary site sketch. I am not certain if 8/1 is still open for a
>> conference, but that is what I wrote as the requested date. Totally
>> understood if this is too short of a notice. Hope your weekend was good!
>>
>> NT
>>
> --
> Nick Taylor PE LEED AP
>
> The Iris Group PLLC
> 4160 6th Ave SE
> Suite 105
> Lacey WA 98503
> (360) 338-8132
> irisgroupconsulting.com
>
--
Nick Taylor PE LEED AP
The Iris Group PLLC
4160 6th Ave SE
Suite 105
Lacey WA 98503
(360) 338-8132
irisgroupconsulting.com
185
Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Monday, July 30, 2018 3:25 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:Re: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
Sounds good. Thanks Tami.
The Iris Group PLLC
4160 6th Ave SE
Suite 105
Lacey WA 98503
(360) 338-8132
irisgroupconsulting.com
On 7/30/2018 11:42 AM, Tami Merriman wrote:
> The environmental reports I am trying to send you are too large.
> I will need to mail them to you on a thumb drive.
>
> Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
> Community and Economic Development
> 105 Yelm Ave. W
> Yelm, WA 98597
> 360.458.8496
> tamim@yelmwa.gov
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 11:40 AM
> To: Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us>
> Subject: Re: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
>
> OK. Thank you.
>
>
> On 7/30/2018 11:33 AM, Tami Merriman wrote:
>> Nick
>> I am sending a few files. They are so far out of date, I am not sure if they will be of assistance. I have reduced the file
size, but still need to send individually.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
>> Community and Economic Development
>> 105 Yelm Ave. W
>> Yelm, WA 98597
186
>> 360.458.8496
>> tamim@yelmwa.gov
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 9:59 AM
>> To: Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us>
>> Cc: Deb Townsend <deb@debtownsend.com>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
>> Subject: Re: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
>>
>> Tami,
>>
>> 8/15 at 2pm sounds just fine. We will put it on our calendars and see you then.
>>
>> NT
>>
>>
>> On 7/30/2018 9:22 AM, Tami Merriman wrote:
>>> Nick
>>> I am afraid it is too late to schedule a meeting on August 1. There is no meeting on the 8th, so the earliest we could
see you would be Wednesday, August 15. I can schedule you for either 2 or 3 pm.
>>>
>>> Please let me know your preference.
>>>
>>> Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
>>> Community and Economic Development
>>> 105 Yelm Ave. W
>>> Yelm, WA 98597
>>> 360.458.8496
>>> tamim@yelmwa.gov
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 4:35 PM
>>> To: Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us>; Deb Townsend
>>> <deb@debtownsend.com>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
>>> Subject: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
>>>
>>> Hi Tami,
>>>
>>> Please see the attached presubmission conference request and preliminary site sketch. I am not certain if 8/1 is still
open for a conference, but that is what I wrote as the requested date. Totally understood if this is too short of a
notice. Hope your weekend was good!
>>>
>>> NT
>>>
>> --
>> Nick Taylor PE LEED AP
>>
>> The Iris Group PLLC
187
>> 4160 6th Ave SE
>> Suite 105
>> Lacey WA 98503
>> (360) 338-8132
>> irisgroupconsulting.com
>>
> --
> Nick Taylor PE LEED AP
>
> The Iris Group PLLC
> 4160 6th Ave SE
> Suite 105
> Lacey WA 98503
> (360) 338-8132
> irisgroupconsulting.com
>
--
Nick Taylor PE LEED AP
The Iris Group PLLC
4160 6th Ave SE
Suite 105
Lacey WA 98503
(360) 338-8132
irisgroupconsulting.com
188
Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Monday, July 30, 2018 11:40 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:Re: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
OK. Thank you.
On 7/30/2018 11:33 AM, Tami Merriman wrote:
> Nick
> I am sending a few files. They are so far out of date, I am not sure if they will be of assistance. I have reduced the file
size, but still need to send individually.
>
>
>
> Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
> Community and Economic Development
> 105 Yelm Ave. W
> Yelm, WA 98597
> 360.458.8496
> tamim@yelmwa.gov
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 9:59 AM
> To: Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us>
> Cc: Deb Townsend <deb@debtownsend.com>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
>
> Tami,
>
> 8/15 at 2pm sounds just fine. We will put it on our calendars and see you then.
>
> NT
>
>
> On 7/30/2018 9:22 AM, Tami Merriman wrote:
>> Nick
>> I am afraid it is too late to schedule a meeting on August 1. There is no meeting on the 8th, so the earliest we could
see you would be Wednesday, August 15. I can schedule you for either 2 or 3 pm.
>>
>> Please let me know your preference.
>>
>> Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
>> Community and Economic Development
>> 105 Yelm Ave. W
>> Yelm, WA 98597
189
>> 360.458.8496
>> tamim@yelmwa.gov
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 4:35 PM
>> To: Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us>; Deb Townsend
>> <deb@debtownsend.com>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
>> Subject: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
>>
>> Hi Tami,
>>
>> Please see the attached presubmission conference request and preliminary site sketch. I am not certain if 8/1 is still
open for a conference, but that is what I wrote as the requested date. Totally understood if this is too short of a
notice. Hope your weekend was good!
>>
>> NT
>>
> --
> Nick Taylor PE LEED AP
>
> The Iris Group PLLC
> 4160 6th Ave SE
> Suite 105
> Lacey WA 98503
> (360) 338-8132
> irisgroupconsulting.com
>
--
Nick Taylor PE LEED AP
The Iris Group PLLC
4160 6th Ave SE
Suite 105
Lacey WA 98503
(360) 338-8132
irisgroupconsulting.com
190
Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Monday, July 30, 2018 9:59 AM
To:Tami Merriman
Cc:Deb Townsend; Dennis Daly
Subject:Re: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
Tami,
8/15 at 2pm sounds just fine. We will put it on our calendars and see you then.
NT
On 7/30/2018 9:22 AM, Tami Merriman wrote:
> Nick
> I am afraid it is too late to schedule a meeting on August 1. There is no meeting on the 8th, so the earliest we could
see you would be Wednesday, August 15. I can schedule you for either 2 or 3 pm.
>
> Please let me know your preference.
>
> Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
> Community and Economic Development
> 105 Yelm Ave. W
> Yelm, WA 98597
> 360.458.8496
> tamim@yelmwa.gov
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 4:35 PM
> To: Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us>; Deb Townsend
> <deb@debtownsend.com>; Dennis Daly <dtdaly1@msn.com>
> Subject: SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
>
> Hi Tami,
>
> Please see the attached presubmission conference request and preliminary site sketch. I am not certain if 8/1 is still
open for a conference, but that is what I wrote as the requested date. Totally understood if this is too short of a
notice. Hope your weekend was good!
>
> NT
>
--
Nick Taylor PE LEED AP
The Iris Group PLLC
191
4160 6th Ave SE
Suite 105
Lacey WA 98503
(360) 338-8132
irisgroupconsulting.com
192
Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Sunday, July 29, 2018 4:35 PM
To:Tami Merriman; Deb Townsend; Dennis Daly
Subject:SE corner 103rd/170th - Presubmission Conference Request
Attachments:PreSubmissionRequest.pdf; DT01 - Concept 1.pdf
Hi Tami,
Please see the attached presubmission conference request and preliminary site sketch. I am not certain if 8/1 is still
open for a conference, but that is what I wrote as the requested date. Totally understood if this is too short of a
notice. Hope your weekend was good!
NT
--
Nick Taylor PE LEED AP
The Iris Group PLLC
4160 6th Ave SE
Suite 105
Lacey WA 98503
(360) 338-8132
irisgroupconsulting.com
193
Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Thursday, July 26, 2018 10:38 AM
To:elliotb@wsdot.wa.gov
Cc:Deb Townsend; Dennis Daly; Tami Merriman
Subject:Yelm Loop Access
Attachments:20180726 - Site Sketch to DOT.pdf
Bill,
Thank you for discussing the access possibilities for the property northerly adjacent to Walmart and easterly adjacent to
170th in regards to the Yelm Loop project. I have attached a very rough conceptual sketch of the proposed
development. It sounds like there is an opportunity for new public road access onto 170th. Please note on the sketch
the mapped Thurston County high groundwater hazard area that would disallow a road connection to 103rd or onto
170th north of the limited access area . We plan to attend a presubmission conference with the City in the coming two
weeks and any guidance that you can provide before that would be much appreciated. We look forward to working with
you and the City to make the project a beneficial one for all parties.
NT
--
Nick Taylor PE LEED AP
The Iris Group PLLC
4160 6th Ave SE
Suite 105
Lacey WA 98503
(360) 338-8132
irisgroupconsulting.com
194
Tami Merriman
From:Nick Taylor <ntaylor@irisgroupconsulting.com>
Sent:Tuesday, July 24, 2018 10:09 PM
To:Tami Merriman
Subject:Re: documents
Thanks Tami. We really appreciate your help today. Hope your weekend is great as well!
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:28 PM Tami Merriman <tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us> wrote:
Nick
Was nice meeting you again today.
I will not be able to get the documents to you until next week, as I am in Seattle in training wed – fri. The
plans are broken into several files, and will take a little time to get them combined to email.
Have a great weekend, and will get with you next week.
Tami Merriman, Associate Planner
Community and Economic Development
105 Yelm Ave. W
Yelm, WA 98597
360.458.8496
tamim@yelmwa.gov
--
Nick Taylor, PE LEED AP
The Iris Group PLLC
4160 6th Ave SE, Suite 105
Lacey, WA 98503
(360) 338-8132
IrisGroupConsulting.com
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