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Gthy\Øolfe
District One
Sandra Romero
District Two
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DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT
Creatíng Solutíonsþr Our Future
January 23,2009
Michael Welter
Director
Bill Tumer
C &,C Engineering LLC
4405 7th Avenue SE, Suite 300
Lacey,WA 98503
SUBJECT: Stopping the Review Clock- Breidenthal
Large Lot Subdivision Projëct No. 20081 04272, Foldêr Sequence No. 08'l 13711 ZE
Tax Parcel No. 21723230300
Dear Mr. Tumer:
This letter is to notiff you that the above subject project has been placed on hold until the following has been
addressed:
L Refer to the enclosed memorandum dated December 15, 2008 from Kevin Chambers ofDevelopment
Review. You may contact Kevin directly should you have questions in regards to his comments.
2. Refer to the enclosed memorandum dated January 2,2009 from Brad Sangston of Environmental
Health. You may contact Brad directly should you have questions in regards to his comments.
3. The subject property is located within the urban growth area of Yelm and is subject to compliance
with the County Wide Planning Policies (CWPP) adopted by the Board of County Commissioners
and City of Yeln in 1992.
CWPP 1.2(e) promotes the concentration of development in growth areas by requiring development
to be configured so urban growth areas may eventually infill and become urban where urban services
and utilities are not yet available.
CWPP 1.2(d) requires that development occurring within unincorporated urban growth areas to
conform to the development standards of the associated city or town with the explanation that
development short of this requirement mây cause the larger soCiety to bear the expense of rehofitting
the development to meet urban standards (i.e. water, sewèr, storm water and roadways) upon eventual
annexation. This standard will fi.rrther enable the larger community to sfiucture how growth willoccur
to minimize the cost of providing the infrastructure for these service systems.
To ensure that these policies are being met, submit fwo copies of a conceptual site plan, drawn to
scale, demonstrating how urban densities consistent with the fr¡ture zoning of the arêa can be met.
Contact Tami Merriman from the City of Yelm Community Development Department at (360) 458-
3835 for future zoning and developrient standards for thát zone. bnce recêived, the pÈn will Ue
forwarded to the City of Yelrn for rêview and comment.
4.The property is currently being assessed with four (4) residential structures. Two (2) cabin/cottages
built in 1995 and two (2) ramblers built in 1980. Thurston County records show a building permit
2000 Lakeridge Drive SW, Olympia, Iùy'ashington 98502 (360) 786-5490ßAJ1.(360)754-2939 '.
TDD (360) 754-2933 Website: www.co.thurston.wa.us/permitting
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had been obtained for one of the structures in 1976 (Permit 7222) and renewed in 1980 (Permit
17308). No other building permit records are on file. A building permit is required for any structure
over 200 square feet in size. Building a sffucture without benefit of a permít is in violation of the
International Residential Code (IRC), Section Rl05.l. It is the property owner's responsibility to
provide documentation demonstrating building permits were obtaíned for each structure on the
subject property that exceeds 200 square feet. If unable to provide documentation, building permits
for each structure in violation of the IRC must be obtained. Contact the Permit Assistance Center at
(3ó0) 786-5490 to inquire about obtaining a building permit for a structure built without a permit.
5. All structures on the subject propefy shall be identified on the map. Include the height, dimensions,
and square footage of each structure.
6. Remove the building setback lines from the revised map.
'Ì. Property line boundaries shall be shown in a solid bold line.
8. The existing and proposed driveway locations shall be shown on the revised map.
9. Addresses shall be noted on the revised map as follows:
Lot I 9701El Camino Lane SE, Yelm, IVA 98597Lot2 9703 El Camino Lane SE, Yelm, WA 98597
Lot 3 97ll El Camino Lane SE, Yelm, WA 98597Lot4 9707 El Camino Lane SE, Yelm, WA 98597
10. Submit Four (4) folded full-size copies and one (l ) I I X l7 copy of the revised map.
To avoid delays in processing your application, please submit all requested information directly to me. The
information must be submitted within 180 days from the date of this letter or the application will lapse.
IfI can be ofassistance, you may contact meat754-3355 ext. 7739 or by email at nortons@co.thurston.wa.us.
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Sandy Norton
Assistant Planner
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Enclosures: January 2,2009 Memo from Environmental Health
December 15,2008 Memo from Development Review
Building Permits 7222 and 17308
Thurston County Assessor Structure Information
cc: Kevin Chambers, Development Review
Environmental Health
Tami Meniman, City of Yelm, Community Development Dept.
THURSTON COUNTYm
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COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Cathy Wolfe
District One
Diane Oberquell
District Two
Robert N. Macleod
District Three
ROADS & TRANSPORTATION SERVICES
MEMORANDUM
Sandy Norton, Thurston County Development Services
Lester Olson
Director
TO:
FROM:
DATE:December 15,2008
SLIBJECT: BREIDENTHAL 08-113711-000-00-ZE
PROJECT #z 2008104272
Upon review of the proposed project referenced above, Roads & Transportation Services have
the following comments and sunmary and PRIOR to preliminary approval the following will
need to be submitted, reviewed and accepted:
The following is a more detailed list of comments and project conditions:
ACCESS TO El Camino LN SE
l. Please note a road encroachment permit shall be acquired from the Roads Development
Review Section prior to any construction within county right-of-way, including
improvements to the roadway shoulders, ditches, and installation of culverts. This shall
be applied for, and paid for prior to the pre-construction conference.
2. The access location shown on the site plan submitted with your application meets the
requirements of the January l, 1999 edition Thurston County Road Standards (TCRS).
ROAD STANDARDS
3. Development within the urban gowth boundary, requiring review by both Thurston
County and the corresponding city jurisdiction, shall be designed to the more stringent
standards of the two jurisdictions.
4. El Camino Lane has requirements for upgrading. Access to the proposed project is over
private property. It is the applicant's responsibility to secure the necessary rights to use
the private property and to upgrade the access to meet the minimum requirements
outlined in the Thurston Countl¡ Road Standards.
Building *l,2O0ìl-akeridge Dive S1ü(/, Olympia, Washington 98502-6045 (360) 35?.2493 Fax (360) 754-Zg3tg I
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5. The standard road section per Appendix 6-A of the January l,lgggedition of the d
shall be constructed for this application.
6. A cul-de-sac is required to be constructed at the end of the road. The cul-de-sac shall
have a minimum 45-foot surfaced radius, centered within a minimum 55-foot right-oÊ
way radius, to provide an adequate radius to allow emergency, utility, or other large
vehicles the necessary arca to furn around without backing out.
DRAINAGE STANDARDS
7. Storm water runoff shall be controlled through all phases of the project by facilities
designed to control the quality and quantity of discharges and shall not alter nor impact
any existing drainage or other properties. Existing drainage routes shall be provided for
with storm water easements, accurately reflected on the final record drawings and final
plat map if the project is subdivision.
8. All drainage facilities outside of the County right-oÊway shall remain private and be
maintained by the developer and/or the homeowner's association.
9. Provided the thresholds of Table 2.1 of the DDECM are not exceeded by any
modification of this proposal or resulting road construction and site work then, as a
minimum, an Abbreviated Drainage Plan shall be required. The Abbreviated Plan
consists of all elements found in Section 3.4 of the DDECM and the following:
a. An evaluation of the need for french drains (drywells) or other onsite facilities for
disposal of runoff from roofs and other impervious surfaces. Size of facilities
shall be determined through application of requirements specified in Section
8.5.13 of the DDECM.
b. Routing for storm drainage as necessary and appropriate for the size of project.
c. Erosion control devices (e.g., construction entrances, filter fabric fences, stockpile
protection, buffers for Critical Areas, and other measures as appropriate to meet
the intent of the DDECM).
d. Easements and setbacks as required to ensure maintenance access, buffers, proper
drainage, or other functions cited in the DDECM.
e. Lines shall be drawn with a straight edge and features shall be to scale. Drawing
shall be sufficiently clear to see the footprint of structures and other features
described above. The site plan will be reviewed to determine if any storm water
or erosion control mitigation is necessary. The completed Abbreviated Drainage
and Erosion Conhol Plan shall be submitted, with the appropriate drainage fee,
and reviewed prior to the scheduling of the Pre-Construction Conference.
f. The plot plan and the Administrator or designee's conditions will comprise the
Abbreviated Plan. The plan shall be kept on the project site during construction
and made available to the jurisdiction's inspectors on demand.
10. All natural and man-made drainage paths contained in the proposed development require
easements as set forth in Section 2.14 of the DDECM.
TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES
11. All traffic control devices shall be designed, located, manufactured, and installed in
accordance with the TCRS, Manual of Uniform Traffic Conhol Devices and applicable
WSDOT Standards & Specifications. Currently the signage for EL Camino Ln does
not meet Thurston County Road Standards and need to be upgraded to meet these
standards. Please contact Development Review Staff to obtain the most current
Thurston County guidelines
12. County forces may remove any traffic control device constructed within the County righr
oÊway not approved by this division and any liability incurred by the County due to non-
conformance by the applicant shall be transferred to the applicant.
13. As required under Section 8.10 of the TCRS, public and private roads providing access to
5 or more lots must display a street name sign to assist emergency vehicles. Road
naming shall comply with Chapter 13.44 of the Thurston County Code. The following
process outlines the street name approval process:
a. Construction plans shall have a sheet(s) designated as a signing plan showing all
traffic control signs. Construction plans shall include as a minimum a sheet
showing all traffic signs and pavement markings with stationing and ofßets.
b. The Developer shall install all street and haffic control devices required for the
project.
c. Please contact the Thurston County Traffic Engineer at 786-5495 for questions
for specific questions regarding placement and specifications.
d. PRIOR TO INSTALLATION, a pre-construction conference is required with the
Development Review Division and Traffic Engineering Division. Call 786-5214
or contact the project's inspector to setup this meeting.
e. Prior to the final inspection by this office, the approved street names and other
traffic control devices need to be placed where required and shall appear on the
record drawings certified by the design engineer.
SEPA CHECKLIST/ ENVIRONMENTAL COMMENTS
14. Erosion shall be controlled throughout the construction of the proposal per Chapter 9 of
the DDECM.
15. Should soil migration occur, approved methods of erosion control shall be implemented.
These methods may include, but are not limited to, covering of exposed soils with plastic,
appllng a thick covering of straw or hay, seeding the site, hydro seeding, installing silt
fence and/or hay bales.
GRADING
16. A grading permit in accordance with the International Building Code and Chapter 14.37
of the Thurston County Code is required for this project and will be incorporated into the
plan review.
17. Cut and fill earthwork quantities shall be provided on the site plan submittal.
18. A stabilized construction entrance shall be installed prior to vehicles leaving the site. The
required length shall be determined by the County inspector.
UTILITIES
19. If water or other utilities are required to be constructed in the County right-of-way, the
applicant shall secure the necessary permits, prior to construction, from John Larose at
the Thurston County Development Review Section. He may be contacted by phone at
(360) 754-3355, ext. 7588, orby e-mail at larosej@co.thurston.wa.us.
20. Any excavation within the County roadway shall require restoration in accordance with
the Thurston County Code, Chapter 13.56, Accommodation of Utílities on Thurston
C oun ty Ri g hts - of- tltay.
SURVEY INFORMATION ANd REQUIREMENTS
The following statements shall be required on the final plat map:
2I. "ATTENTION": Thurston County has no responsibility to build, improve, maintain or
otherwise service the private road or driveway within or providing access to property
described in this plat. The building, maintenance, repair, improvement, operation or
servicing of the stormwater facilities outside the county rights of way are the
responsibility of the property owner(s).
22. Increased storm water runoff from the road(s), building, driveway and parking areas shall
be retained on site and shall not be directed to roadway ditches adjacent to 93'd Avenue
SE.
23. If seasonal drainage crosses subject property, no filling or disruption of the natural flow
shall be permitted.
The following information shall be shown on the final plat map:
24. Permanent survey control need to be placed to establish all public street centerlines,
intersections, angle points, curves, subdivision boundaries and other points of control.
25. Storage requirements for runoff from buildings and parking surfaces shall be shown on
individual building lots, including drywell sizing or storm drain connection points.
GENERAL REO.UIREMENTS
PRIOR TO A¡TY ACTIVITY ON-SITE A PRE-CONSTRUCTION CONFERBNCE IS
REQUIRED.
26. All correspondence with Thurston County regarding this project shall be identified with
the project file number, as follows: BREIDENTHAL 08-l l37l l-000-00-ZE.
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27. Required plan submittal information is presented in Chapter 3.00 of the TCRS.
28. The 1999 Thurston County Road Standards and Drainaee Desieri & Erosion Control
Manual are provided as minimum standards; altematives, which provide superior designs,
are acceptable.
29. After preliminary approval and all final drainage and site plans have been submitted and
accepted by Roads and Transportation Services, a pre-construction conference shall be
scheduled prior to any roadway construction or improvements. The conference shall be
scheduled with Thurston County Development Review at 786-5214, and be attended by
the Developer and his or her contractgr(s).
30. When the requirements have been completed, contact the Development Review Section
at786-521,4 for a final inspection.
31. The final plat map shall be submitted to the Development Services Department prior to
receiving final approval.
PROCESS FEES
32. Review and inspection fees will be assessed prior to preliminary approval, construction
and final approval. For the current fee schedule, please contact John Larose at the
Thurston County Development Review Section by phone at754-3355, ext. 7588, or by e-
mail at larosej @co.thurston.wa.us.
PRIOR TO PRELMINARY APPROVAL
33. In summary, the following items are required to be submitted, reviewed and accepted
prior to a Public Hearing date being set for this proposed project:
a. Revised Site Plan showing the required road upgrades from 93'd Avenue to the
end ofproposed road.
b. Abbreviated Drainage Plan
c. Cut/fill quantities
d. Payment of any outstanding review fees.
PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION
34. In summary, the following items are required to be submitted, reviewed, and approved
prior to a preconstruction Conference:
a. Signage and Striping Plan
b. Payment of any required review and inspection fees.
c. Pre-Construction Conference
FINAL APPROVAL CHECKLIST
35. Prior to receiving final approval from this department, the following items shall be
required:
a. Completion of all road upgrades and drainage facilities
b. Final inspection and completion of all punch list items, if required after final
inspection
c. Required survey information on the final plat map
d. Completion of required signing
e. Payment of any required utility fees
f. Payment of any required final fees
g. Payment of any requiredmitigation fees
If you have any questions, please contact Kevin Chambers at the Thurston County Development
Review Section by phone at (360) 754-3355, extension 6823 .
cc: Bill Turner
Carrie Toebbe, Development Services
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MEMORANDUM
January 2,2009
Sandy Norton, Thurston County Development Services, Zoning & Land Use
Sheri McDonald, RN, MPA,
Director
Diana T. Yu, MD, MSPH
Health Officer
TO:
FROM:Brad Sangston, Thurston County Environmental Heafth f/
SUBJECT: Project 2008 104272, Sequence 08-113711 ZE,Tax Parcel # 21723230300,
Breidenthal Large Lot Subdivision Application
The above referenced applicätion for large lot subdivision has been routed to this agency for
review and comment. This application is proposing to subdivide 20 acres of property into 4
single family residential lots of 5 acres or more each. The site plan indicated there is an existing
well on proposed Lot 4 and existing homes on Lots 1 and 3, and a temporary residence on Lot
4. The application and narrative have omitted the water supply for each lot. Clarification is
needed.
We have completed our initial review of this application however the following additional
information must be provided before we can continue our review:
1. This department must confirm there is evidence of suitable soils and cite conditions for on-
site sewage disposal systems, therefore a minimum of two test pits must be excavated on
proposed Lots 1 & 4 and their locations must be shown on the project site plan. ln addition,
at least one test pit is required on Lots 2 and 3 to demonstrate that sufficient reserve area is
available for a replacement draínfield to serve the existing residences.
The pits must be constructed in such a way as to allow for easy and safe access, be clearly
flagged or labeled for location purposes, and should be excavated to a depth of 6 feet or
until evidence of a restrictive layer is encountered (ie: evidence of a seasonal high water
table, hard pan or glacial till, or other restrictive soíl conditions). The applicant or their
representative can obtain standards for test pit excavation and construction by requesting a
copy of Section 11.3.2.4 of Article lV of the Thurston County Sanitary Code at the Thurston
County Permit Assistance Center (360) 786-5490. We will assume the test pits are
completed and ready for inspection when we have received a scaled site plan showing the
pit locations on the property.
2. No records were found for the existing septic systems serving the residences on the
property. A revised site plan must show the location of each existing on-site sewage
system.
Environmental Health Division: 2000 Lakeridge Drive S\7, Olympia, Vashingcon 98502.6045 (360) ?86-5490
Fax (360) 754-4462 ' TDD (360)754-2933
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MEMORANDUM
Project 2008104272, Sequence 08-1 13711 ZE
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Tax Parcel # 2'1723230300
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3. The applicant needs to indicate whether not each lot is to be served by a single family well
or public water. lf the existing well is to be used for more than one connection, it needs to
be labeled on the site plan how many connections are proposed and which lots it proposes
to serve. This office has no record of the existing well receiving public water approval for
more than one connection.
Environmental Health review of this application will be placed on hold at this time. When
we have received the additional information listed above we can continue our review. lf you
have any questions regarding the Environmental Health portion of this review, please email
me or call ext. 5463. lf the applicant or their consultant has any questions I can be reached
at (360) 786-5743.
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Full Baths
Partial Baths
Residence Square Footage
Ma¡n Finished Area
Gode
1980
RAMBLER
FAIR
AVERAGE
0
1
0
Fireplaces/Wood Stoves
Heat Type
Fuel Type
Foundation Type
Exterior Wall Type
Roofing Material
1608
Detached Structures
1
BASEBOARD-HT
ELECTRIC
CONCRETE
WOOD-SIDING
COMPOSTTION
Year Built Sguare Feet Quality Condition
STORAGE-SHED
LEAN-TO
LEAN.TO
LEAN-TO
STORAGE-SHED
1940
1980
1980
1980
1980
2t6
80
90
90
L20
LOW/FAIR
LOW-COST
LOW-COST
LOW-COST
LOW-COST
VERY.POOR
POOR
POOR
POOR
POOR
Office of the AssessorPatricia Costello, Assessor
2000 Lakeridge Drive SW - Olympia, WA 98502
Customer Service (360)867-2200 -- Fax (36O)867-2201 -- TDD (360)754-2933
http://sotcprop.co.thurston.wa.us/propsql/struct.asp?fe=PR&pn:21723230300 v2U2009