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RE Salmon Run Apartments - Updates Questions 3IPM.Note RE: Salmon Run Apartments - Updates / Questions RE: Karen Bennett Tami Merriman Karen Bennett EX /O=CITYOFYELM/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=TAMI Salmon Run Apartments - Updates / Questions EX /O=CITYOFYELM/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=KARENB EX /O=CITYOFYELM/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=KARENB Tami Merriman EX /O=CITYOFYELM/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=TAMI Karen Bennett; Rod Butler; timberriverdev@hotmail.com; Mark King; Chuck Lie; Arnold, Tom; Matlack, Rebecca; cschepper@terra-associates.com; Amy Head Heimbigner, Chad Salmon Run Apartments - Updates / Questions Chad The stormwater system proposed for this development will be reviewed by our peer review engineer. That peer reviewer will provide guidance to us on what is acceptable for approving your civil plans. Tami Merriman Associate Planner City of Yelm 105 Yelm Ave. W Yelm, WA 98597 360.458.8496 tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us <mailto:tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us> From: Heimbigner, Chad [mailto:Heimbigner@coffman.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 1:49 PM To: Tami Merriman Cc: Karen Bennett; Rod Butler; timberriverdev@hotmail.com; Mark King; Chuck Lie; Arnold, Tom; Matlack, Rebecca; cschepper@terra-associates.com; Amy Head Subject: RE: Salmon Run Apartments - Updates / Questions Good afternoon Tami. Thank you for your feedback noted below. We haven't made any changes to the site plan layout since our previous submittal. Our understanding is that the setback criteria provided in the 2005 DOE Manual (SSC-1) are provided as guidance (not requirements). Based on the email you previously sent dated November 1, 2010, we understand the City has allowed the 20 foot setback to be reduced to 10 feet. This early input from the City regarding the allowable 10 foot setback was instrumental to the layout of the proposed site components, buildings, and storm water management improvements for the Salmon Run development. We will obtain input from the geotechnical engineer (Terra Associates) regarding the 10 foot setback as part of their overall analysis of the Salmon Run site and their determination of the project meeting the appropriate Site Suitability Criteria. If the geotechnical engineer determines the 10 foot setback is acceptable based on their analysis, we understand the City will support this same setback based on our reasons noted above. Please let me know if you have any comments or questions. Thank you. Chad Chad Heimbigner, P.E., LEED AP Senior Civil Engineer Coffman Engineers, Inc. p 509.328.2994 | f 509.328.2999 www.coffman.com <http://www.coffman.com/> LASTING creativity | results | relationships Please consider the environment before printing this email. ________________________________ From: Tami Merriman [mailto:tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:57 PM To: Heimbigner, Chad Cc: Karen Bennett; Rod Butler; timberriverdev@hotmail.com; Mark King; Chuck Lie; Arnold, Tom; Matlack, Rebecca; cschepper@terra-associates.com; Amy Head Subject: RE: Salmon Run Apartments - Updates / Questions Chad I am not an engineer, and without knowing what changes have occurred in your site plan, I would defer your question back to our peer review engineer. The way I believe it works is the 92 DOE manual allows us to reduce the 20-foot setback under certain circumstances, but I could not tell you the circumstances. Tami Merriman Associate Planner City of Yelm 105 Yelm Ave. W Yelm, WA 98597 360.458.8496 tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us <mailto:tamim@ci.yelm.wa.us> From: Heimbigner, Chad [mailto:Heimbigner@coffman.com] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:50 PM To: Tami Merriman Cc: Karen Bennett; Rod Butler; timberriverdev@hotmail.com; Mark King; Chuck Lie; Arnold, Tom; Matlack, Rebecca; cschepper@terra-associates.com; Amy Head Subject: RE: Salmon Run Apartments - Updates / Questions Good afternoon Tami. Have you had a chance to review my email below? At your convenience, can you please provide me with an update or an approximate timeframe of when you'll be able to respond to our request? Thank you. I appreciate your help. Chad Chad Heimbigner, P.E., LEED AP Senior Civil Engineer Coffman Engineers, Inc. p 509.328.2994 | f 509.328.2999 www.coffman.com <http://www.coffman.com/> LASTING creativity | results | relationships Please consider the environment before printing this email. ________________________________ From: Heimbigner, Chad Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:26 AM To: Amy Head; Tami Merriman Cc: karenb@ci.yelm.wa.us; Rod Butler; timberriverdev@hotmail.com; Mark King; Chuck Lie; Arnold, Tom; Matlack, Rebecca; cschepper@terra-associates.com Subject: RE: Salmon Run Apartments - Updates / Questions Thank you for your input Amy. Tami - Can you please clarify the setback requirement for the City? Based on the attached email, our understanding is that the 10 foot setback applies to structures as well as property lines based on the statement, "the 10 foot setback that we require includes structures". This input was critical to our layout of all of the site and building improvements. I look forward to receiving your input regarding the setback and if you have any additional comments regarding our updates / questions noted below. Thank you. Chad Chad Heimbigner, P.E., LEED AP Senior Civil Engineer Coffman Engineers, Inc. p 509.328.2994 | f 509.328.2999 www.coffman.com <http://www.coffman.com/> LASTING creativity | results | relationships Please consider the environment before printing this email. ________________________________ From: Amy Head [mailto:amy@sheacarrjewell.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:16 AM To: Heimbigner, Chad; Tami Merriman Cc: karenb@ci.yelm.wa.us; Rod Butler; timberriverdev@hotmail.com; Mark King; Chuck Lie; Arnold, Tom; Matlack, Rebecca; cschepper@terra-associates.com Subject: RE: Salmon Run Apartments - Updates / Questions Contech StormFilters are allowable for treatment. As far as the setback, I believe the 10 foot setback the City discussed is from the property line. The infiltration setback is a different thing and is out of the DOE manual. This is a setback from buildings not property lines. The setback is to prevent and undermining of building foundations due to stormwater infiltration in the immediate vicinity. Amy Head, PE, LEED AP Associate Principal From: Heimbigner, Chad [mailto:Heimbigner@coffman.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:08 AM To: amy@sheacarrjewell.com; Tami Merriman Cc: karenb@ci.yelm.wa.us; Rod Butler; timberriverdev@hotmail.com; Mark King; Chuck Lie; Arnold, Tom; Matlack, Rebecca; cschepper@terra-associates.com Subject: Salmon Run Apartments - Updates / Questions Good morning Amy and Tami. I have some updates and questions regarding the Salmon Run Apartment project (10720 Vancil Road Southeast). Can one of you please provide me with some input? * In response to your initial comments, we requested the geotechnical engineer conduct some additional testing at the subject site. During the supplemental geotechnical explorations, groundwater was encountered at an elevation of approximately 341.50. Test pits that were excavated to an elevation of approximately 339.00 a year ago didn't have any seepage. According to the geotechnical engineer, last year at the time of test pit excavation, the rainfall for the water year to date was about 2.5 inches more than normal. This year during the recent explorations, the rainfall to date is about 6 inches more than normal for the water year. We anticipate this is contributing to the elevated groundwater level. It appears the most feasible option for utilizing infiltration facilities for the subject site is utilizing StormFilter units (see attached) for treating storm water runoff, with discharge to shallow, subsurface infiltration galleries. We would not utilize swales for treating storm water. The galleries would be similar to those previously proposed, with the exception of using more piping (to allow for more temporary, subsurface storage volume), having a shallower drain rock depth (3 foot depth for drain rock, rather than 5 feet as previously proposed), and a shallower excavation (bottom of gallery would be installed at elevation 344.50 or higher, allowing for 3 feet of separation from the recently encountered groundwater). We would still have the infiltration galleries located in the areas previously shown, with some of the galleries also expanding into the limits of the parking area more. The geotechnical engineer is currently conducting an analysis to determine if the revised storm water management system we are proposing meets the Site Suitability Criteria for the subject site? If the geotechnical engineer determines the proposed improvements meet the Site Suitability Criteria, will the City allow a separation of 3 feet as noted in SSC-5? Is the use of StormFilter units acceptable for treatment of storm water prior to disposal to shallow infiltration galleries? * We have a question regarding the following comment from the letter dated February 25, 2011: Site suitability Criteria 1 (SSC-1 Setback Criteria) - the infiltration facilities shall be set back at least 20 feet downslope of a building foundation and 100 feet upslope. Most of the proposed infiltration systems do not meet this requirement. We understand the setback criteria are provided as guidance. Based on an email from Tami Merriman (City of Yelm) dated November 1, 2010, we understand the City has allowed the 20 foot setback to be reduced to 10 feet. Please let us know if our understanding is correct and 10 feet is acceptable. I look forward to receiving your input. Please let me know if you have any comments or questions. Thank you. I appreciate your help. 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