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RE Eagle PlazaIPM.Note RE: Eagle Plaza RE: Steve Harrington Jim Gibson Steve Harrington SMTP jim@sheacarrjewell.com Eagle Plaza EX /O=CITYOFYELM/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=STEVEH EX /O=CITYOFYELM/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=STEVEH Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: from psmtp.com ([64.18.0.41]) by server1.ci.yelm.wa.us with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 21 May 2009 16:14:12 -0700 Received: from source ([69.20.100.20]) by exprod5mx195.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:12:22 CDT Received: by server107.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 5.2.14) with PIPE id 174305065; Thu, 21 May 2009 19:12:20 -0400 Received: from [207.97.230.161] (HELO fe13.exg3.exghost.com) by server107.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 174305061; Thu, 21 May 2009 19:12:19 -0400 Received: from be44.exg3.exghost.com ([207.97.230.180]) by fe13.exg3.exghost.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 21 May 2009 19:12:19 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9DA69.96581E39" Subject: RE: Eagle Plaza Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:12:18 -0400 Message-ID: <E172BA3D082B874B9C1956EC5880C0FBCBF14E@be44.exg3.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <DC90029353CCCD468AA2A2858FFCD8F554E3DE@server1.ci.yelm.wa.us> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Eagle Plaza Thread-Index: AcnU2D1AYjpA0NXpQs+rgNLsEFIJiADDx5+QAJ9lCYA= References: <D6B7B05DBA3E3F49AA477434652BF6133F51FE210E@CTEXCHANGE04.ad.contech-cpi.com> <DC90029353CCCD468AA2A2858FFCD8F554E3DE@server1.ci.yelm.wa.us> From: "Jim Gibson" <jim@sheacarrjewell.com> To: "Steve Harrington" <steveh@ci.yelm.wa.us> Cc: "Simescu, Andreea" <SimescuA@contech-cpi.com>, <chalter@aldrich-assoc.com>, "Scott L Ritter" <scottlritter@comcast.net>, <dmaxwell@contech-cpi.com> Return-Path: jim@sheacarrjewell.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2009 23:12:19.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[970C0B60:01C9DA69] X-Policy: GLOBAL - sheacarr.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - sheacarr.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - sheacarr.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - sheacarr.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - sheacarr.com X-Primary: jim@sheacarrjewell.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: TCH-CT/SI:0-95/SG:5 5/21/2009 7:12:15 PM X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, 207.97.230.161, Ugly c=0.850766 p=-0.988052 Source White X-Signature-Violations: 0-0-0-32767-c X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 207.97.230.161 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: fe13.exg3.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: jim@sheacarrjewell.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 116 117 118 119 123 124 214 X-Note: Mail Class: VALID X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV: 6.8749 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s CV gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <jim@sheacarrjewell.com> [49/2] ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9DA69.96581E39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9DA69.96581E39 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9DA69.96581E39-- Jim Gibson SMTP jim@sheacarrjewell.com Simescu, Andreea; chalter@aldrich-assoc.com; Scott L Ritter; dmaxwell@contech-cpi.com Steve Harrington Eagle Plaza Steve – You requested that I look into the difference between the Aqua Swirl and Contech CDS treatment devices. I have looked at both of them and they appear to have the same General Use Level Designation issued by WSDOE. (Please see internet links below for WSDOE GULD Approvals) Both designs have similar characteristics: * Both are designed to use hydrodynamics to separate solids from stormwater * Both are maintained by the use of a vacuum truck. * Both are designed to offer pretreatment prior to infiltration * One benefit to the Contech product is that it is manufactured and distributed locally. Aqua Swirl does not have an active distribution network locally. (HD Fowler and Ferguson carry Contech) Based on the above information above I would request that the City of Yelm allow Eagle Plaza to use either of these options on the project. If you allow the use of either option, it will ultimately fall to the contractor on which option they choose to use. This is typically based on price and availability at the time of construction. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me about this email or you may contact Doug Maxwell at Contech for additional information about the CDS treatment product. http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/wq/stormwater/newtech/use_designations/aq uaswirlgud121806.pdf http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/wq/stormwater/newtech/use_designations/CO NTECH_CDS_GULD_071808.pdf Jim Gibson, PE Shea, Carr and Jewell Inc. 2102 Carriage Drive SW Bldg. H Olympia, Washington 98502 Ph: 360-352-1465 Fax: 360-352-1509 Cell: 360-628-4766 jim@sheacarrjewell.com <mailto:jim@sheacarrjewell.com> ________________________________ From: Steve Harrington [mailto:steveh@ci.yelm.wa.us] Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:03 PM To: Simescu, Andreea Cc: Jim Gibson Subject: RE: Eagle Plaza Andreea- It appears the person making this request may not be aware they are using the 1992 Washington State Department of Ecology Stormwater Management Manual for the design of their stormwater system on this project. If my research is correct the approval for the CDS system is approved for use in the 2005 Washington State Department of Ecology Stormwater Manual per Contech’s application for approval? Unless, they change the stomwater design to meet the 2005 D.O.E. requirements? At this time I would have to say they need to meet the requirements of the 1992 Washington State Department of Ecology Stormwater Manual. In which is part of their current stormwater design. Thank you, Steve Harrington City of Yelm Engineering / Civil Inspector ________________________________ From: Simescu, Andreea [mailto:SimescuA@contech-cpi.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:09 PM To: Steve Harrington Subject: Eagle Plaza Hi Steve, We spoke earlier about this project. I have attached some information on our CDS unit that we would be proposing for this application. Our CDS units have general use level approval through the WADOE (see attachment). The unit we are proposing is a CDS2020 and I have attached the standard detail for that. This device can treat up to 1.1 cfs and internally bypass up to 14 cfs. Please let me know if you have any questions or need additional information. Thank you. Andreea Simescu, E.I. Design Engineer - Stormwater Products CONTECH Construction Products Inc. 11835 NE Glenn Widing Dr. I Portland, OR 97220 Direct: 503-258-3138 I Toll free: 800-548-4667 x138 I Fax: 800-561-1271 simescua@contech-cpi.com ________________________________ The information contained in this message may be confidential and/or proprietary, and legally protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Thank you, CONTECH Construction Products Inc. <E172BA3D082B874B9C1956EC5880C0FBCBF14E@be44.exg3.exghost.com> <D6B7B05DBA3E3F49AA477434652BF6133F51FE210E@CTEXCHANGE04.ad.contech-cpi.com> <DC90029353CCCD468AA2A2858FFCD8F554E3DE@server1.ci.yelm.wa.us> <DC90029353CCCD468AA2A2858FFCD8F554E3DE@server1.ci.yelm.wa.us> RE%3A Eagle Plaza.EML Steve Harrington urn:content-classes:message Steve Harrington EX /O=CITYOFYELM/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=STEVEH steveh Steve Harrington SMTP steveh@ci.yelm.wa.us Simescu, Andreea SMTP SimescuA@contech-cpi.com Simescu, Andreea Simescu, Andreea chalter@aldrich-assoc.com SMTP chalter@aldrich-assoc.com chalter@aldrich-assoc.com chalter@aldrich-assoc.com Scott L Ritter SMTP scottlritter@comcast.net Scott L Ritter Scott L Ritter dmaxwell@contech-cpi.com SMTP dmaxwell@contech-cpi.com dmaxwell@contech-cpi.com dmaxwell@contech-cpi.com